*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[phile]

The mobo will rest on the standoffs, they will not come through the screw-holes.

-phil

 

[dando]

Originally posted by: brock01
so in our case there will be 9 standoffs?
so the standoffs go into the case and come through the mobo where the 9 screw holes are? and the screws goes into to the standoff correct?

Tape together two pages of paper and put your mobo on top of the paper. Use a pencil to put marks on the paper where the screw holes in the mobo are. The paper with the pencil marks will help you find the correct holes in the case to use for your standoffs. There are many pre-drilled holes in the case, so you'll have to pick (using the paper template) which holes to put standoffs in.

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: phileAs for your problem, if your machine won't even POST, I'm afraid the only thing you can try is to reset the CMOS. If after that it still will not POST, your BIOS is probably fubar. ASUS will express ship you a new one for $15, so I hear.

I'll call ASUS today and see what that gets me, then try the reset when I get home. I just find it difficult to understand why they make a Big Deal about this crash-proof stuff then have things crash and die. I'll probably avoid BIOS updates from now on unless there's a bug fix I need or something...

 

[brock01]

does it matter how many standoffs i put in? or do i just put them in randomly?
do i put them scattered apart, even distrubted?

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: mikepaul

Originally posted by: phileAs for your problem, if your machine won't even POST, I'm afraid the only thing you can try is to reset the CMOS. If after that it still will not POST, your BIOS is probably fubar. ASUS will express ship you a new one for $15, so I hear.

I'll call ASUS today and see what that gets me, then try the reset when I get home. I just find it difficult to understand why they make a Big Deal about this crash-proof stuff then have things crash and die. I'll probably avoid BIOS updates from now on unless there's a bug fix I need or something...

Go to page 4-9 of the manual and follow the CrashFree BIOS recovery instructions. I never bothered to look into this feature, and would love to know if it works.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: brock01
does it matter how many standoffs i put in? or do i just put them in randomly?
do i put them scattered apart, even distrubted?

Brock, you can't be serious. Step back a few posts and read. There's nothing more we can do for you. Go to it.

-phil

 

[djinnuk]

Guys need some help, just built a new rig, with a 7950gx2 superclocked EVGA card in it, I notice with CPU-Z and Nvidias driver in the control panel that my PCI-Express GFX port is only running at 8x and not 16x as it should be. I've tried everything I can think of to remedy this situation: Swapped from orange Pci-e slot to black one, still 8x and back to orange one, still 8x. Tried resetting CMOS removing card unplugging pc for 5 mins, re powering up and setting all bios settings again, still 8X!
Im at my whits end with it, The manual states that the PCI-E slots will switch to 8x if you use the 2nd slot... but im not! Anyone else with a P5W DH and a 7950gx2 confirm that they are getting 16x pci-e under cpu-z please.

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: phile
Go to page 4-9 of the manual and follow the CrashFree BIOS recovery instructions. I never bothered to look into this feature, and would love to know if it works.

Well, I looked at that last night. Something (not at home right now) about using the CD or USB, but when there's NOTHING coming up when you turn on the power, the 'corrupted' message isn't coming up either to show any sign of life.

That's why I think crash-free is semi-bogus, if the code that supports it can be killed/disabled by a bad flash. In my case, a bad flash that pretended it had been successful...

Edit: Talked to ASUS about new BIOS chips. $5 for shipping is going to get me two of the 1407 chips, which I was told I might be able to have flashed around here somewhere if I'm lucky, in case I NEED to use 1305 instead. Having a spare that's already flashed to a high-enough revision for no additional money sounded OK to me if 1407 does work.

If it turns out to be a CMOS problem, then somebody really needs to rewrite the loader so that it resets the memory itself if it sees bad data there. Just sitting there doing nothing until the owner does the required reset anyway is just lame...

 

[The111]

Phile,

This is slightly off topic but I figured you might be a good guy to ask, since you led me to Everest which is great for monitoring my temps, etc. Is there any software that will allow you to monitor power consumption, so I know how many Watts I'm actually using? Perhaps this is even in Everest somewhere and I was just too stupid to find it.

Thanks.

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: The111
Phile,

This is slightly off topic but I figured you might be a good guy to ask, since you led me to Everest which is great for monitoring my temps, etc. Is there any software that will allow you to monitor power consumption, so I know how many Watts I'm actually using? Perhaps this is even in Everest somewhere and I was just too stupid to find it.

Thanks.

I'm afraid I have no idea there's any way to monitor power consumption via software application.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: mikepaul

Originally posted by: phile
Go to page 4-9 of the manual and follow the CrashFree BIOS recovery instructions. I never bothered to look into this feature, and would love to know if it works.

Well, I looked at that last night. Something (not at home right now) about using the CD or USB, but when there's NOTHING coming up when you turn on the power, the 'corrupted' message isn't coming up either to show any sign of life.

That's why I think crash-free is semi-bogus, if the code that supports it can be killed/disabled by a bad flash. In my case, a bad flash that pretended it had been successful...

Edit: Talked to ASUS about new BIOS chips. $5 for shipping is going to get me two of the 1407 chips, which I was told I might be able to have flashed around here somewhere if I'm lucky, in case I NEED to use 1305 instead. Having a spare that's already flashed to a high-enough revision for no additional money sounded OK to me if 1407 does work.

If it turns out to be a CMOS problem, then somebody really needs to rewrite the loader so that it resets the memory itself if it sees bad data there. Just sitting there doing nothing until the owner does the required reset anyway is just lame...

So, are you saying that you attempted the CrashFree recovery and it did not work?

-phil

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: phile
So, are you saying that you attempted the CrashFree recovery and it did not work?

I guess what I'm saying is, if there's a user-initiated sequence about CrashFree beyond inserting the CD or USB, I didn't see it. My computer does nothing on power-up, so the 'corrupted' message that signals the start of recovery doesn't happen.

At least, it looked like all I was expected to do was insert the CD (which may not work for a C2D anyway) or the USB I did flash from, both of which I tried. If I missed some arcane part of the recovery process, please advise...

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: The111
This is slightly off topic but I figured you might be a good guy to ask, since you led me to Everest which is great for monitoring my temps, etc. Is there any software that will allow you to monitor power consumption, so I know how many Watts I'm actually using? Perhaps this is even in Everest somewhere and I was just too stupid to find it.

I have my KillAWatt http://www.amazon.com/P3-International-...-0193894-2837705?ie=UTF8&s=electronics plugged in between my PSU and my UPS. Without overclocking I draw about 162 watts, when I overclock 30% I see around 195 or so. The number bounces around, and I don't care about averages...

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: mikepaul

Originally posted by: phile
So, are you saying that you attempted the CrashFree recovery and it did not work?

I guess what I'm saying is, if there's a user-initiated sequence about CrashFree beyond inserting the CD or USB, I didn't see it. My computer does nothing on power-up, so the 'corrupted' message that signals the start of recovery doesn't happen.

At least, it looked like all I was expected to do was insert the CD (which may not work for a C2D anyway) or the USB I did flash from, both of which I tried. If I missed some arcane part of the recovery process, please advise...

You have to boot with the P5WDH CD, and have either a USB device or floppy with the BIOS on it, renamed to P5WDH.ROM.

-phil

 

[brock01]

but it dosent say how many standoffs is good to use?

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: brock01
but it dosent say how many standoffs is good to use?

What exactly is it that's confusing you? One standoff per mobo screw-hole, screwed on to the case tray under each of those mobo screw-holes.

-phil

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: mikepaul

Originally posted by: phile
So, are you saying that you attempted the CrashFree recovery and it did not work?

I guess what I'm saying is, if there's a user-initiated sequence about CrashFree beyond inserting the CD or USB, I didn't see it. My computer does nothing on power-up, so the 'corrupted' message that signals the start of recovery doesn't happen.

At least, it looked like all I was expected to do was insert the CD (which may not work for a C2D anyway) or the USB I did flash from, both of which I tried. If I missed some arcane part of the recovery process, please advise...

You have to boot with the P5WDH CD, and have either a USB device or floppy with the BIOS on it, renamed to P5WDH.ROM.

-phil

How do you boot if the computer just sits there and does nothing when you turn on the power?...

 

[phile]

Well, if you followed the instructions to the letter, and it doesn't work, ASUS has some explaining to do.

There's also the matter of EzFlash causing these problems, to begin with.

-phil

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: phile
Well, if you followed the instructions to the letter, and it doesn't work, ASUS has some explaining to do.

That fits in with the ASUS tech's comment earlier today. I commented on my lack of respect for the concept of crash-free, and he said "I hear you".

Like I said, if the CMOS is what's holding things up (and I'll check into that later), they need to seriously consider fail-safe procedures to detect that a reset of the CMOS is appropriate and do it. Users might complain, but if the code is solid enough to only perform the reset when the user would HAVE to do it anyway, the complaints might be few.

"CrashFree" only if certain things go wrong isn't...

 

[brock01]

so the screw will go into the standoff right?
so the screw will go through the mobo hole- then the screw after it goes through the mobo hole it will go into the standoff?

im sorry for all the asking of questions, i just shorted my mobo by doing this wrong and I just got it back and i dont wanna screw this one up

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: brock01
so the screw will go into the standoff right?
so the screw will go through the mobo hole- then the screw after it goes through the mobo hole it will go into the standoff?

im sorry for all the asking of questions, i just shorted my mobo by doing this wrong and I just got it back and i dont wanna screw this one up

Brock, I'm seriously worried about you building a rig by yourself. One last attempt.

This is one type of standoff:
http://mountainmods.com/popup_image.php?
pID=203&type=jpg&osCsid=fa9f4258795c00599ef7d58686631770

This is another:
http://www.dansdata.com/images/llpc60/standoff320.jpg

The first type screw into the screw-holes of the case mobo tray. The second type (used by Lian Li cases, among others) would be fixed into case mobo tray holes.

The above standoffs are placed in the case mobo screw-holes that would be in line with the screw-holes on the motherboard, itself. With the standoffs in place, you rest the mobo on the standoffs, so that the standoffs are directly under the mobo screw-holes. At this point, you secure the mobo to the standoffs with the provided screws. The screws go through the mobo screw-holes, into the standoffs.

-phil

 

[brock01]

already done
no more standoff questions for meh

i asked so many questinos cause it sounded like someone on the page 42 said screw dont go in standoffs which confused meh
it was really easy for meh cause the case has the standoffs pointed out for ATX and others

 

[Canai]

I'm brand new here so hi all.

Anyway I'm having a couple weird things happening to me with this mobo. When I use ATI Tray Tools or Everest or Speedfan or whatnot it reports having three mobo temps. Two of them stay around 40-45ºC, while the third one goes from 67º-130ºC! I really am clueless as to what the third temp could be refering to, as I believe the first ones are the Southbridge and CPU temps, and the system is stable even after a night of prime95 or Everest burn in testing.

My second problem is when I cold boot the mobo it starts up and BIOS beeps and then shuts back down after ~10 seconds. Then if I start it again it boots up fine. This started happenign after I began using the remote, so it could be that.

And sorry if these have already been addressed in this topic. Honestly I stopped reading after about page 25 or so heh.

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: Canai
I'm brand new here so hi all.

Anyway I'm having a couple weird things happening to me with this mobo. When I use ATI Tray Tools or Everest or Speedfan or whatnot it reports having three mobo temps. Two of them stay around 40-45ºC, while the third one goes from 67º-130ºC! I really am clueless as to what the third temp could be refering to, as I believe the first ones are the Southbridge and CPU temps, and the system is stable even after a night of prime95 or Everest burn in testing.

My second problem is when I cold boot the mobo it starts up and BIOS beeps and then shuts back down after ~10 seconds. Then if I start it again it boots up fine. This started happenign after I began using the remote, so it could be that.

And sorry if these have already been addressed in this topic. Honestly I stopped reading after about page 25 or so heh.

A mobo temp of 40C-55C is quite normal for this board, and nothing to worry about. Here are a few good threads for you to read through, to get acqainted with your new P5WDH:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193

Your boot issue could very-well be caused by the usb remote. It's a piece of junk, and I don't use it. Same goes for the WIFI. I didn't buy this board for the gadgets, so I couldn't care less. The obvious thing to do is remove the remote and drivers, and see if that resolves the problem.

-phil

 

[djinnuk]

Originally posted by: djinnuk
Guys need some help, just built a new rig, with a 7950gx2 superclocked EVGA card in it, I notice with CPU-Z and Nvidias driver in the control panel that my PCI-Express GFX port is only running at 8x and not 16x as it should be. I've tried everything I can think of to remedy this situation: Swapped from orange Pci-e slot to black one, still 8x and back to orange one, still 8x. Tried resetting CMOS removing card unplugging pc for 5 mins, re powering up and setting all bios settings again, still 8X!
Im at my whits end with it, The manual states that the PCI-E slots will switch to 8x if you use the 2nd slot... but im not! Anyone else with a P5W DH and a 7950gx2 confirm that they are getting 16x pci-e under cpu-z please.

So still no help with this matter then?