*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[phile]

Originally posted by: aqaxz
Just curious...i checked out my temps today using that probe program that came with the mobo. it said my cpu is running at 53* and mb at 38* I am using stock fans and heatsink. I guess what im trying to get at, are any of those temps anything i should be aware of?

You sure you don't have those two temps reversed? An idle CPU temp of 53C is way too hot. If that is, indeed, your CPU temp, your heatsink is probably not making good contact with the CPU. Best to remove it and carefully reinstall it, making sure to follow the instructions in the mobo manual. The heatsink should be tightly locked down and applying pressure to the CPU.

-phil

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: phile
I don't think it's available cheaper, anywhere else.

-phil

OK so is it worth it to spring the extra $10 for the Ultimate edition?

BTW thanks for all your help so far

 

[phile]

Yes, and you're welcome.

-phil

 

[djinnuk]

Many thanks Filezz for clearing that up, I thought my board was a dud or something, anyhow turns out my Evga Superclocked 7950GX2 is a bit of dud as its max overclock is like 555/750, which seeing as its stock settings are 550/700 im not too impressed, anything over the 555 mark causes graphical glitches and funny little purple/green dots all over the place, especially on HDR/SM3.0 graphical apps, still scored 10k on 3dmark06, so I guess im a happy bunny, EVGA want my card back as they say all superclocked cards have been tested to run at 575core and that if they dont its a dud, so lets see if i can get a replacement.

 

[nrs251]

I am not sure if I am posting in the right forum but I have a P5W DH Deluxe OC question.

I am running an E6400 with 2 GB XMS2 Corsair RAM (4-4-4-12-2(Rt))

I have managed the following:
CPU Freq: 3.20 Ghz
FSB: 420
Mem running at DDR800 at 2.1V with 4-4-4-12-2(Rt)
CPU Volt: 1.375
FSB TermV: 1.40
MCH Volt: 1.55
ICH: Auto

This configuration is stable. Orthos runs 8 hrs.
The rig is water-cooled with a Corsair Nautilus (I am a WC noob and that kit was awesome).
Idle Tem:39-40
Load: 52-53

Now....
I want to go further.
CPU Freq: 3.37 GHz
FSB: 420
Mem at DDR630

and all the above prior settings with volatge boost to 1.41.
No Go.
Windows Boots. Orthos crashes?

I even tried loosening RAM timings to 5-5-5-15-2(Rt)
No luck...Orthos locks up.

What am I doing wrong?
It was such an incremental step up and I even backed the memory speed and timing down and it was a no go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Neil

 

[raincityboy]

Originally posted by: nrs251
snip
Now....
I want to go further.
CPU Freq: 3.37 GHz
FSB: 420
Mem at DDR630

and all the above prior settings with volatge boost to 1.41.
No Go.
Windows Boots. Orthos crashes?

I even tried loosening RAM timings to 5-5-5-15-2(Rt)
No luck...Orthos locks up.

What am I doing wrong?
It was such an incremental step up and I even backed the memory speed and timing down and it was a no go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Neil

How are you running orthos? Blend, small, large, or gromacs?

 

[turbocrime]

Hi, i'm new to this forum and have recently got a p5w dh board with a duo chip. I have oc'd it and it runs stable however when i push the restart button or restart in xp it completely powers down and turns back on again like its just shutdown and powered up. It does not do this when i have it set at stock speed but will do it even if i oc a fraction of what its oc'd and stable at now. Any ideas would be helpful cheers!

 

[nrs251]

Orthos Blend.

on the above rig.

I also just removed the NB and SB heatsinks and cleaned and reseated them with new thermal goop and the MB temps dropped another 5-6 degrees!!

I now get idles at 39-42C and load at 47-48. Wow!!!
Its amazing how a little thermal grease on that NB can impact MB temps.

Any help with pushing this OC to a target of 3.4-3.5 will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Neil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: turbocrime
Hi, i'm new to this forum and have recently got a p5w dh board with a duo chip. I have oc'd it and it runs stable however when i push the restart button or restart in xp it completely powers down and turns back on again like its just shutdown and powered up. It does not do this when i have it set at stock speed but will do it even if i oc a fraction of what its oc'd and stable at now. Any ideas would be helpful cheers!

This is normal behavior for several ASUS boards, including the P5WDH. Apparently, this cold-boot serves to reset the chipset strap. (If I understand correctly, the strap pertains to the synchronization of both the northbridge and CPU clocks.)

Hopefully, a future BIOS revision will remove the need for this behavior. But, in the meantime, know that it's not a problem unique to your system.

-phil

 

[turbocrime]

Thanks for the reply, this feature is annoying as I'm running the system on a chilly1 mach 2 prommy and when it does this cold-boot restart the prommy thinks the system has shutdown turns off so when the system turns back on the prommy is switched off so the system then shuts down completly. The prommy has a 160s restart delay to stop the compressor turning on and off too quickly so once I can turn it back on the board then thinks there has been a problem with the oc as it did not reboot properly and sets it back to standard.

This is an anoying feature and anyone considering using a prometeia and a mb that has this feature should bare in mind. Unless anyone can find a way of stopping the prommy shutting down or disabling this mb feature.

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: nrs251
Orthos Blend.

on the above rig.

I also just removed the NB and SB heatsinks and cleaned and reseated them with new thermal goop and the MB temps dropped another 5-6 degrees!!

I now get idles at 39-42C and load at 47-48. Wow!!!
Its amazing how a little thermal grease on that NB can impact MB temps.

Any help with pushing this OC to a target of 3.4-3.5 will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Neil

Its possible you hit the wall with that particular setup. Remember the average OC range for the E6400 is 3.2-3.4 The better (higher) overclocks with the E6400 are done on 965 mobos (ex: P5B Deluxe) and not the 570s like the P5W DH.

 

[yessir]

Originally posted by: nrs251
I am not sure if I am posting in the right forum but I have a P5W DH Deluxe OC question.

I am running an E6400 with 2 GB XMS2 Corsair RAM (4-4-4-12-2(Rt))

I have managed the following:
CPU Freq: 3.20 Ghz
FSB: 420
Mem running at DDR800 at 2.1V with 4-4-4-12-2(Rt)
CPU Volt: 1.375
FSB TermV: 1.40
MCH Volt: 1.55
ICH: Auto

This configuration is stable. Orthos runs 8 hrs.
The rig is water-cooled with a Corsair Nautilus (I am a WC noob and that kit was awesome).
Idle Tem:39-40
Load: 52-53

Now....
I want to go further.
CPU Freq: 3.37 GHz
FSB: 420
Mem at DDR630

and all the above prior settings with volatge boost to 1.41.
No Go.
Windows Boots. Orthos crashes?

I even tried loosening RAM timings to 5-5-5-15-2(Rt)
No luck...Orthos locks up.

What am I doing wrong?
It was such an incremental step up and I even backed the memory speed and timing down and it was a no go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Neil

I don't have watercool but for an aircool with Zalman 9500, I can confirm a very similar behavior on my my set-up on 6400 also, which is ORTHOS stable for 4+ hrs...Load Temp: 51C/54C
CPU Freq: 3.043 Ghz (FSB: 380.5 * 8)
Mem at DDR2 800 at 2.1V with 5-6-6-18 (per CPU-Z 4:3)/ SPD disabled
CPU Volt: 1.3125
FSB TermV: Auto
MCH Volt: Auto
ICH: Auto

BUT when all specs. above are kept the same except at 1:1 (FSMRAM by reducing DRAM) ORTHOS becomes unstable in 22 secs.

I am quite happy running it at 3 GHZ but just was wondering what could be the problem at 1:1. Am I missing something also?

Thanks

 

[raincityboy]

Originally posted by: nrs251
Orthos Blend.

on the above rig.

I also just removed the NB and SB heatsinks and cleaned and reseated them with new thermal goop and the MB temps dropped another 5-6 degrees!!

I now get idles at 39-42C and load at 47-48. Wow!!!
Its amazing how a little thermal grease on that NB can impact MB temps.

Any help with pushing this OC to a target of 3.4-3.5 will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Neil

Try small fft. It will help localize the problem.

 

[nrs251]

PROGRESS:

I am running an E6400 with 2 GB XMS2 Corsair RAM (4-4-4-12-2(Rt))


CPU Freq: 3.20 Ghz
FSB: 400
Mem running at DDR2-800 at 2.1V with 4-4-4-12-2(Rt)
CPU Volt: 1.375
FSB TermV: 1.40
MCH Volt: 1.55
ICH: Auto

now....

CPU Freq: 3.28 Ghz
FSB: 410
Mem running at PC4700 at 2.1V with 4-4-4-12-2(Rt)
CPU Volt: 1.42
FSB TermV: 1.40
MCH Volt: 1.55
ICH: Auto

That works. The CPU Voltage and the slower memory made it stable in Orthos.
I tried higher FSBs (like 420), and making the timing 5-5-5-12 (2Rtc). That was a no go.

I decided to go back to 3.2GHz at DDR800. It is nice to run memory at 1:1 FSB, which is why I bought the higher quality RAM in the first place.

I guess I am too greedy with the clockspeed. I am satisfied with the 3.2Ghz number. I did have some questions though.

1) Will Voltages increases to > 1.45 volts be helpful to gain stabiltiy at higher FSB or it that just not possible with this board.

2) I keep seeing people talk about the CPU multipliers, isn't this locked at 8 with the P5W DH?? I am running the 1305 BIOS. I read that the 1405 fixes this issue.

3) Also why does the BIOS give you such a small number of memory:FSB ratios. I mean at an FSB of 410 why is there no option to run at 1:1? You end up getting a choice to overclock or drop the memory speed significantly.

4) Can someone give me a simple explanation of how memory and FSB are linked. Try and use small words LOL.

5) Is there any hope that future BIOS revisions will breath more OC life at the high end FSB??? I do not want to try the 1405 BIOS after reading the nightmare stories on this thread of people who can't even boot their machines after flashing to that BIOS.


All my reading has revealed that the E6400 on the P5W DH basically hits a wall at FSB 380-400. Is this true. Also I have been really reluctant to pump serious voltage to the CPU. I have given it as much as 1.42V (I know thats small and not serious voltage) but the chip OCs at damn near stock voltage so well its amazing!!

Neil

 

[Skott]

Alot of people hit a wall at 360+. I have heard some say go straight to 401+ but not everyone can get it to post. Yeah, BIOS 1401 or 1405 (I forget which) allows backwards multiplier settings. Pojntless if you have a E6300 or a E6400 IMO. Hopefully more BIOS updates are forthcoming. To get over 3.4 with this mobo the E6600 and higher chips are the way to go. The E6300/E6400 overclock better on the 965 mobos. Still, a 3.2 stable OC is a very good OC with a E6400 and the P5W DH. Dont let anyone tell you different.

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: nrs251

3) Also why does the BIOS give you such a small number of memory:FSB ratios. I mean at an FSB of 410 why is there no option to run at 1:1? You end up getting a choice to overclock or drop the memory speed significantly.

4) Can someone give me a simple explanation of how memory and FSB are linked. Try and use small words LOL.

5) Is there any hope that future BIOS revisions will breath more OC life at the high end FSB??? I do not want to try the 1405 BIOS after reading the nightmare stories on this thread of people who can't even boot their machines after flashing to that BIOS.

3) At FSB 410 you have the option to run the mem at 820, which is 1:1. That's an extremely modest overclock of the mem.

4) The FSB:MEM ratio is determined by comparing the real clocks of the FSB and MEM. The real FSB clock is what you see in the BIOS, quad pumped to achieve the effective FSB clock. To run the memory 1:1 with a real FSB clock of 266 (1066 effective), you set the memory frequency to DDR2-533, which has a real clock speed of 266. Since it's dual data rate, the effective clock is 533. So, when the FSB is set to 410, you need to set the mem to DDR2-820 in order to run at 1:1.

5) The latest official BIOS is 1407. Use the AFUDOS flashing method to minimize the risk of a bad flash. You can even add a few swtiches to the command line, which will reprogram the boot block, and clear the CMOS.

> afudos /iXXXXX.ROM /pbnc /n

-phil

 

[nrs251]

Update on my E6400 OC

CPU Freq: 3.36 Ghz
FSB: 420
Mem running at PC6400 at 2.1V with 4-4-4-12-2(Rt) Slight MEMOC at DDR2-840
CPU Volt: 1.40
FSB TermV: 1.40
MCH Volt: 1.65
ICH: Auto


Water-cooled Nautilus 500

Anyone think that that MCH Voltage is too high? Do I need a dedicated NB Cooler for that.
I think the MB temps are 40C.

Idle temp: 39-40C
Load: 50C

I am going to work that voltage down now.

Orthos stable for 1 hr now.

 

[luckyinfil]

I have recently just purchased a conroe system and have put it together. I have an E6600 and a p5w! i've put everything together, wiped off the thermal compound that came with the heatsink in isopropyl alcohol and have applied some arctic silver 5. (applied it twice, first time to check for concavity and it doesn't appear to be any, how do u see anyways?) The cpu temperature that i'm being reported in the bios is 64.5 degrees celcius while the mobo temp is around 30. I haven't installed windows yet, so i can't test with any other software. Is the mobo sensors reporting me the wrong temperatures? or is it that soemthing is wrong with my heatsink? The bios reports that temperature after just turning it on for not even a minute!

Please advise!

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: nrs251
Update on my E6400 OC

CPU Freq: 3.36 Ghz
FSB: 420
Mem running at PC6400 at 2.1V with 4-4-4-12-2(Rt) Slight MEMOC at DDR2-840
CPU Volt: 1.40
FSB TermV: 1.40
MCH Volt: 1.65
ICH: Auto


Water-cooled Nautilus 500

Anyone think that that MCH Voltage is too high? Do I need a dedicated NB Cooler for that.
I think the MB temps are 40C.

Idle temp: 39-40C
Load: 50C

I am going to work that voltage down now.

Orthos stable for 1 hr now.

The mobo temp is read from a sensor by the ICH7R chip. So, it's difficult to know if/when your northbridge is running too hot. Personally, I wouldn't boost the volts on either the north or southbridge without at least attaching somes fans to those heatsinks.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: luckyinfil
I have recently just purchased a conroe system and have put it together. I have an E6600 and a p5w! i've put everything together, wiped off the thermal compound that came with the heatsink in isopropyl alcohol and have applied some arctic silver 5. (applied it twice, first time to check for concavity and it doesn't appear to be any, how do u see anyways?) The cpu temperature that i'm being reported in the bios is 64.5 degrees celcius while the mobo temp is around 30. I haven't installed windows yet, so i can't test with any other software. Is the mobo sensors reporting me the wrong temperatures? or is it that soemthing is wrong with my heatsink? The bios reports that temperature after just turning it on for not even a minute!

Please advise!

Sounds like a classic case of the stock cooler not being properly secured. Have a look to make sure that each of the four corners are locked-down and secured.

If you plan to overclock much, you should consider a good aftermarket cooler.

-phil

 

[luckyinfil]

i just installed windows and in everest, it says 63 degrees as well! i've never installed 775 heatsinks before but all u do is push it down and thats it rite? I tried wiggling the heatsink rite now and it doesn't move at all! I'm gonna get an arctic freezer 7 but if it doesn't solve the issue, what may be wrong?

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: luckyinfil
i just installed windows and in everest, it says 63 degrees as well! i've never installed 775 heatsinks before but all u do is push it down and thats it rite? I tried wiggling the heatsink rite now and it doesn't move at all! I'm gonna get an arctic freezer 7 but if it doesn't solve the issue, what may be wrong?

For whatever reason, it sounds like the heatsink is not making good contact with the CPU heatspreader. I strongly suggest you remove and reinstall the heatsink. Clean off the stock thermal compund and use AS5, as well.

-phil

 

[raincityboy]

Originally posted by: luckyinfil
I have recently just purchased a conroe system and have put it together. I have an E6600 and a p5w! i've put everything together, wiped off the thermal compound that came with the heatsink in isopropyl alcohol and have applied some arctic silver 5. (applied it twice, first time to check for concavity and it doesn't appear to be any, how do u see anyways?) The cpu temperature that i'm being reported in the bios is 64.5 degrees celcius while the mobo temp is around 30. I haven't installed windows yet, so i can't test with any other software. Is the mobo sensors reporting me the wrong temperatures? or is it that soemthing is wrong with my heatsink? The bios reports that temperature after just turning it on for not even a minute!

Please advise!

Touch your heatsink. If its near 60 C you'll know.
It does sound like bad contact.

 

[pschweig]

Hi

I have built a new system with this mobo. I have 4 hdds installed. 3 sata all plugged into the ICH7 on the intel chipset. I have one ide drive which is plugged into the jmicron ide socket (PRI_EIDE in the manual).

The hdd was recognised during startup and all seemed well. However, my new system has suffered from daily crashes from day 1. Symptoms are freezing for 10 seconds and then responsive for 10 seconds and I've heard a noise like a hdd spinning down just before the crash a couple of times.

Sometimes after a crash the ide hdd is not recognised when I reboot. Today I started a download and when I returned to check I saw this error:

Windows was unable to save all the data for the file E:/$MFT. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connections. Please try to save this file elsewhere.

Drive E is the IDE hdd. I looked in the event viewer and saw the same 2 messages repeated for several hours

An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk3\D during a paging operation.

The device, \Device\Scsi\JRAID1, did not respond within the timeout period.

and also one of these

{Delayed Write Failed} Windows was unable to save all the data for the file . The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to save this file elsewhere.

Is this likely to be related to the jmicron controller or a faulty hdd? I used the disk fine for over a year in my previous pc.

I am going to try unplugging the disk to see if stability improves.

If so I might replace the disk with a sata disk. Will I be able to plug the disk into the jmicron or the Asus EZ Backup sata ports? It seems that they are all intended for RAID but I have no interest in RAID.

sorry for the long post and thanks if you made it this far

 

[turbocrime]

I have not spent much time oc'ing the E6600 but have got it stable at 405x9 3645MHz, FSB 1620 with a 1:1 mem ratio. Can super pi in 13s and was stable for 1 hour 47 before I got bored. Will try clocking it more once I sort out the cold restart feature that the asus board has when it's beng oc'd.