*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[phile]

Originally posted by: SavageThrash
Stupid question here, (little off topic to) but how do you figure out what week processor you have and what does that really mean.

On the retail box you will see something like: FPO/BATCH # L6******. The two digits after the L6 represent the week your chip was manufactured. Certain weeks appear to be better overclockers than others. No guarantees. This is purely anecdotal.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: killerman
got my e6400 @ 3.2ghz using 1.412 vcore and 1.65 vmch

can't even boot 410 fsb on this vcore thou, but it's rock stable at 400, ran orthos for 24 hours and other benchies fine, ran a few hours of fear and bf2 also and works fine

it's a week 28, do i have a dud? (I'm on a p5w, so i guess with vdroop it's actually lower than 1.412?)

it definitely needs that voltage, just think it's a bit too much for that clock. also temps are high... around 65 at max load ...and that's with a scythe infinity and some as5 (possibly bad contact?)

any suggestions/comments? full system specs below




600w GameXstream OCZ PSU
2GB DDR2 800 Crucial Ballistix @ 4-4-4-12
E6400 @ 3.2 ghz 1.412 vcore
Sapphire X1900XT 512MB
ASUS P5w DH
WD 250GB SATA II HDD
20" Widescreen Viewsonic Monitor

5413 3dmark06 at stock e6400 speeds
6098 3dmark06 e6400 @3.2ghz.

no OC on the video card yet (i dunno how to )

I would not characterize 410 FSB stable, with 1.412v, as a dud. Not by a long-shot. There's no point in going any further unless you go significantly further, and that would put you into liquid/phase cooling territory. Enjoy your sweet o/c.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: gamefreakgcb
My proc just came back from a replacement and my mobo didn't work, just turns all the fans on and just sits there, no beeps, tried with only vid/ram/proc, no proc, no ram, no vid. Then tried a friends celeron d and still the same. So is my board shot? I also voided the warranty by removing all the metal coverings from the NB and SB heatsinks. I was on the 1405 bios which was working with the previous proc but suddenly stopped working.

Have you tried a different power supply? What exactly led-up to the original failure? Had you just flashed the BIOS? Did you have any electrical issues, like a power failure?

-phil

 

[imported_killerman]

quote:
Originally posted by: killerman
got my e6400 @ 3.2ghz using 1.412 vcore and 1.65 vmch

can't even boot 410 fsb on this vcore thou, but it's rock stable at 400, ran orthos for 24 hours and other benchies fine, ran a few hours of fear and bf2 also and works fine

it's a week 28, do i have a dud? (I'm on a p5w, so i guess with vdroop it's actually lower than 1.412?)

it definitely needs that voltage, just think it's a bit too much for that clock. also temps are high... around 65 at max load ...and that's with a scythe infinity and some as5 (possibly bad contact?)

any suggestions/comments? full system specs below




600w GameXstream OCZ PSU
2GB DDR2 800 Crucial Ballistix @ 4-4-4-12
E6400 @ 3.2 ghz 1.412 vcore
Sapphire X1900XT 512MB
ASUS P5w DH
WD 250GB SATA II HDD
20" Widescreen Viewsonic Monitor

5413 3dmark06 at stock e6400 speeds
6098 3dmark06 e6400 @3.2ghz.

no OC on the video card yet (i dunno how to )



I would not characterize 410 FSB stable, with 1.412v, as a dud. Not by a long-shot. There's no point in going any further unless you go significantly further, and that would put you into liquid/phase cooling territory. Enjoy your sweet o/c.

-phil

400 stable at 1.412

just thought it was odd some people could do 3.2 easy without bumping up the vcore

seems as the weeks progress they aren't as ocable... just a thought

 

[jedisponge]

Originally posted by: phile
jedisponge,

Can you summarize the problems you have had, the components you have, and the troubleshooting you have tried? Br very detailed on the components, both internal and external. For example: if you have a USB hub connected to one of the USB ports, don't leave it out.

Based on that, I will do my best to make some solid suggestions.

-phil

Alrighty.

p5w dh Motherboard (1305 bios rev)
e6700 (week 24)
Corsair xms 6400 (800mhz 2x1GBs)
Seagate 320 SATA HD (OEM)
Samsung DVD R/W Drive (OEM)
Antec NEO 550w Powersupply, Rosewill 600w Powersupply (Tested both, same results).
Sapphire ATI 1900XTX (retail)
Zalman C9500 Heatsink

Nothing else eternal, other than a G15 Keyboard and a G5 Mouse. I also have two old Dell monitors (a 17inch CRT and a 15inch LCD, my lonesome Samsung 205bw is on loan to my girlfriend until I got my computer up working). I also have an NZXT Lexa case.

Some things that might be of note: The motherboard came with no screws, I had to scrounge some lying around. When I plug the power in, the motherboard LED light shows everything's working fine. But when I turn on the PC, after everything boots up nothing happens. The power button, reset button are unresponsive, as well as the CD/DVD button to open up the tray.

I also tried the suggestion of setting everything up outside the case, as I placed it the antistatic bag on top of a cardboard box. Same result. Lets see, tried with one memory stick at a time to see if one was particularly faulty. Used both power suppies. The monitors are also both connected through a DVI adapter. That's about it I guess, I'll add more if I can think of more.

EDIT: Also, can it be the video card? The GPU fan stays on at a high speed, as the computer's not posting.

 

[gamefreakgcb]

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: gamefreakgcb
My proc just came back from a replacement and my mobo didn't work, just turns all the fans on and just sits there, no beeps, tried with only vid/ram/proc, no proc, no ram, no vid. Then tried a friends celeron d and still the same. So is my board shot? I also voided the warranty by removing all the metal coverings from the NB and SB heatsinks. I was on the 1405 bios which was working with the previous proc but suddenly stopped working.

Have you tried a different power supply? What exactly led-up to the original failure? Had you just flashed the BIOS? Did you have any electrical issues, like a power failure?

-phil

The board was lying out of the case in its antistatic bag in a metal cupboard (I had a different case on the way and returned the loaner in which I had it set up). I have no idea what is wrong. The 1405 was flashed a while back and was wworking fine for me but my chip stayed too hot because of its concavity so I had it RMA'ed. I have another one being sent to me and should be getting here today. I also never thought the PSU as the problem because its an OCZ............ Damnit, should've tried the PSU first.

 

[imported_Fatebender]

I have two Raptors on the Intel controller in Raid 0, an ATA Plextor optical drive, a floppy and have just added a Sata Hitachi Deckstar to number four. Everything works fine in Windows. I want to activate 3.0 on the Hitachi. I am using tthe Hitachi Dos tools to accomplish this. When the bus is scanned all the drives except the Hitachi are recognized. Any suggestions?

 

[jim1976]

DP

 

[jim1976]

Phile I see that you are too helpful and know serious stuff about this mobo. I'm sorry to link you to another thread but is it possible to take a look at my problem here?

Thanks in advance m8

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: jim1976
Phile I see that you are too helpful and know serious stuff about this mobo. I'm sorry to link you to another thread but is it possible to take a look at my problem here?

Thanks in advance m8

I wish I could offer something in the way of advice, but I haven't used the JMicron port, an I have no PATA HDs. However, you don't appear to be anywhere near being alone in having PATA issues with this board. Have you considered moving to SATA HDs?

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: jedisponge

Originally posted by: phile
jedisponge,

Can you summarize the problems you have had, the components you have, and the troubleshooting you have tried? Br very detailed on the components, both internal and external. For example: if you have a USB hub connected to one of the USB ports, don't leave it out.

Based on that, I will do my best to make some solid suggestions.

-phil

Alrighty.

p5w dh Motherboard (1305 bios rev)
e6700 (week 24)
Corsair xms 6400 (800mhz 2x1GBs)
Seagate 320 SATA HD (OEM)
Samsung DVD R/W Drive (OEM)
Antec NEO 550w Powersupply, Rosewill 600w Powersupply (Tested both, same results).
Sapphire ATI 1900XTX (retail)
Zalman C9500 Heatsink

Nothing else eternal, other than a G15 Keyboard and a G5 Mouse. I also have two old Dell monitors (a 17inch CRT and a 15inch LCD, my lonesome Samsung 205bw is on loan to my girlfriend until I got my computer up working). I also have an NZXT Lexa case.

Some things that might be of note: The motherboard came with no screws, I had to scrounge some lying around. When I plug the power in, the motherboard LED light shows everything's working fine. But when I turn on the PC, after everything boots up nothing happens. The power button, reset button are unresponsive, as well as the CD/DVD button to open up the tray.

I also tried the suggestion of setting everything up outside the case, as I placed it the antistatic bag on top of a cardboard box. Same result. Lets see, tried with one memory stick at a time to see if one was particularly faulty. Used both power suppies. The monitors are also both connected through a DVI adapter. That's about it I guess, I'll add more if I can think of more.

EDIT: Also, can it be the video card? The GPU fan stays on at a high speed, as the computer's not posting.

You never see any activity on the monitor, correct? Just so I'm clear, you have had the exact same result with both boards?

When connecting your PSU to the mobo, are you making sure to connect BOTH the 20+4-pin main AND 4-pin 12v connectors?

Is the mobo resting on the case tray, or on metal risers?

Can you try a different videocard? (You do a buy/return of some cheapo PCI-E card.)

Can you try a third PSU? (see vidcard)

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: gamefreakgcb

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: gamefreakgcb
My proc just came back from a replacement and my mobo didn't work, just turns all the fans on and just sits there, no beeps, tried with only vid/ram/proc, no proc, no ram, no vid. Then tried a friends celeron d and still the same. So is my board shot? I also voided the warranty by removing all the metal coverings from the NB and SB heatsinks. I was on the 1405 bios which was working with the previous proc but suddenly stopped working.

Have you tried a different power supply? What exactly led-up to the original failure? Had you just flashed the BIOS? Did you have any electrical issues, like a power failure?

-phil

Well, it's extremely unlikely that your old CPU was the problem. You should definitely try to find another PSU, just to see if that makes any diff. That your machine was working fine, and suddenly died, is strongly suggestive of a PSU failure. At least, that's where you should look first.

-phil


The board was lying out of the case in its antistatic bag in a metal cupboard (I had a different case on the way and returned the loaner in which I had it set up). I have no idea what is wrong. The 1405 was flashed a while back and was wworking fine for me but my chip stayed too hot because of its concavity so I had it RMA'ed. I have another one being sent to me and should be getting here today. I also never thought the PSU as the problem because its an OCZ............ Damnit, should've tried the PSU first.

 

[jedisponge]

Originally posted by: phile
You never see any activity on the monitor, correct? Just so I'm clear, you have had the exact same result with both boards?

When connecting your PSU to the mobo, are you making sure to connect BOTH the 20+4-pin main AND 4-pin 12v connectors?

Is the mobo resting on the case tray, or on metal risers?

Can you try a different videocard? (You do a buy/return of some cheapo PCI-E card.)

Can you try a third PSU? (see vidcard)

-phil

Nothing on the monitor, on both boards, with the same exact results. 20+4 pin, and 4pin 12v are both connected as well.

The mobo is resting on the back tray. However I also tried connecting everything outside on a cardboard box with the antistatic bag with the same results.

I can try the vid cards and the PSU's, but at this point, after investing so much time and money trying to fix the problems, I'm really at my last straw. At this point my options are to send it one last time to a computer center and really tell them to test it out and fix it, rather than just a stupid diagnostic test with no suggestions of what to do next (cough cough Geek Squad), as the money spent on a new test GPU and PSU would probably equal or exceed giving it to servicer to fix. My other option is to just ebay the parts that I know are working and to recuperate as much money as I can.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: jim1976
Phile I see that you are too helpful and know serious stuff about this mobo. I'm sorry to link you to another thread but is it possible to take a look at my problem here?

Thanks in advance m8

I wish I could offer something in the way of advice, but I haven't used the JMicron port, an I have no PATA HDs. However, you don't appear to be anywhere near being alone in having PATA issues with this board. Have you considered moving to SATA HDs?

-phil

I have already 2x250 GB sata2 drives but I use those PATA as well. I know I guess it's time to let them aside. On the other hand you see I want to know what is happening it's too weird..

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: jedisponge

Originally posted by: phile
You never see any activity on the monitor, correct? Just so I'm clear, you have had the exact same result with both boards?

When connecting your PSU to the mobo, are you making sure to connect BOTH the 20+4-pin main AND 4-pin 12v connectors?

Is the mobo resting on the case tray, or on metal risers?

Can you try a different videocard? (You do a buy/return of some cheapo PCI-E card.)

Can you try a third PSU? (see vidcard)

-phil

Nothing on the monitor, on both boards, with the same exact results. 20+4 pin, and 4pin 12v are both connected as well.

The mobo is resting on the back tray. However I also tried connecting everything outside on a cardboard box with the antistatic bag with the same results.

I can try the vid cards and the PSU's, but at this point, after investing so much time and money trying to fix the problems, I'm really at my last straw. At this point my options are to send it one last time to a computer center and really tell them to test it out and fix it, rather than just a stupid diagnostic test with no suggestions of what to do next (cough cough Geek Squad), as the money spent on a new test GPU and PSU would probably equal or exceed giving it to servicer to fix. My other option is to just ebay the parts that I know are working and to recuperate as much money as I can.

First, get the mobo out of that case. Without risers between the board and tray, you're going to kill your board, if you haven't already. Did you try this second board outside of the case? If not, it's worth a try. Also, when suggesting that you buy a second vidcard and/or PSU, I was suggesting you buy it/them from a place where you can return them for refund. It's unethical, yes, but I'd rather bend my principles a tad, than pay some schmuck $100 to do such a simple test for me.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: jim1976

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: jim1976
Phile I see that you are too helpful and know serious stuff about this mobo. I'm sorry to link you to another thread but is it possible to take a look at my problem here?

Thanks in advance m8

I wish I could offer something in the way of advice, but I haven't used the JMicron port, an I have no PATA HDs. However, you don't appear to be anywhere near being alone in having PATA issues with this board. Have you considered moving to SATA HDs?

-phil

I have already 2x250 GB sata2 drives but I use those PATA as well. I know I guess it's time to let them aside. On the other hand you see I want to know what is happening it's too weird..

Actually, now that I think of it, there may something you can try. The mobo comes with two IDE ribbon cables, one 40-wire and one 80-wire. The 80-wire is for the HDDs and the 4-wire is for optical drives. If you're already using the proper cable for the HDs, you could try buying another good quality 80-wire ribbon.

-phil

 

[mollusk]

After a couple of hours in Suspend mode, the ethernet stops working unless I do a restart. Is this a software or hardware problem?

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: mollusk
After a couple of hours in Suspend mode, the ethernet stops working unless I do a restart. Is this a software or hardware problem?

Could it be that your machine is going into hibernation?

-phil

 

[mollusk]

No, just when resuming from Suspend mode. I've only had this occur 2-3 times. Maybe I should get the latest ethernet drivers? What are they, Marvell?

It's a great board overall, even if pricey. I'm still not experienced enough overclocking, so I'm running on a stable 30% OC Profile on this 6300 + DDR2-800 setup for now. BIOS version is 0801. Is mine outdated? I'm confused by Asus' site because they post 1407 and 701 bioses. Which one do I get?

A while back I tried running at 2.8GHz with DDR 900 or somesuch. It was stable until I was alt-tabbing into a game, the screen showed garbled blocks, which must've been the RAM giving up, and a restart followed. Of course, I didn't even touch the voltages, so it must've been the insufficient voltage. Everything is fine now, but heh, you learn from experience. Next time I won't get so greedy. But I still want to learn more about OC'ing to get the most out of this system.

 

[phile]

Overclocking is mostly trial and error. With some experience, you develop better instincts about what may and may not work, so you end-up spending less time in the trial and error stage. Your o/c could have failed for any number of reason, but likely a voltage issue with both the mem and CPU.

re: BIOS
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/">ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/</a>

ASUS's FTP site has most of the official BIOS releases, 1407 being the latest.

re: Ethernet
I haven't a clue as to why it doesn't resume when coming out of stand-by. You could try checking the "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" box, found on the Power Management tab. This can be found by going into the device manager and right-clicking on the ethernet card and choosing Properties.

-phil

 

[jedisponge]

Originally posted by: phile
First, get the mobo out of that case. Without risers between the board and tray, you're going to kill your board, if you haven't already. Did you try this second board outside of the case? If not, it's worth a try. Also, when suggesting that you buy a second vidcard and/or PSU, I was suggesting you buy it/them from a place where you can return them for refund. It's unethical, yes, but I'd rather bend my principles a tad, than pay some schmuck $100 to do such a simple test for me.

-phil

Trust me, I'm not below that unethical action. I really would do it, but again at this point I'm so exhausted (I know, I know, I'm crying), but as of now I don't feel like it's worth the effort of doing all of this only for it again slam the door in my face. I just want it to be fixed! :end rant: Anyway, since it's not the motherboard, I kind of have new heart. Now the problems are either the memory, vid card or cpu. However, a buddy of mine (thanks Ray, if you see this) who said it's very likely not the GPU that's causing any problems. So I pretty much cut it down to the CPU or RAM.

Also, my case does actually have risers, so I take that part back.

 

[lewesian]

New BIOS 1502 available here: http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php

 

[bichi]

No issues with 1502 (mild OC)
- P5WDH BIOS: 1502
- E6700 WK: 26
- FSB: 300; 3:4; PC-800
- OCZ OCZ2G8002GK; vDIMM=2.10vdc
- 5-6-6-18; BW: 6290/6279
- memtest86; 8 passes OK

DRIVES:
- 3 on ICH7 (AHCI mode)
- 2 on EzBackUp SI 4723 (RAID 0)
- 1 on JMicron [SATA RAID1]

IDLE: (SpeedStep and C1E enabled)
- CPU: 25c/77f
- MEM: 31c/87.8f
- AMB TEMP: 20.5c/69f

LOAD: (Orthos 4+ hrs)
- CPU: 48c/118.4f
- MEM: 39.5c/130.1f
- AMB TEMP: 22c/72f

LOAD: (SuperPI Single 32M)
- CPU: 40c/104f
- AMB TEMP: 22c/71.6f

LOAD: (SuperPrime 1E8)
- CPU: 45.5c/114f
- AMB TEMP: 23c/73.4f

 

[Skott]

Bichi,
You should be able to do 333fsb easily without doing anything other than changing it from 300fsb to 333fsb. That would give you another 330Mhz on that OC. 333fsb with this mobo is practically a gurantee.

 

[bichi]

Skott,
Thanks for the feedback, but need an ultra-stable platform for work purposes.
- did have it up to 320 FSB for a few "play" hours, without issues
- might try 330 next weekend
- bummer is, it takes me at least 8hrs of stress testing at new FSB's to get confident of stability