*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[phile]

Originally posted by: mebiuspower
Has anybody tried flashing to the new 2004 BIOS? It says it improves on memory compatibility. Not sure if it will solve the issue of having 4 sticks 1Gb memory on the board?

You will only get full use of 4 or more gigs of RAM with a 64-bit operating system. 32-bit operating systems have a 4GB memory address limit, some of which will be allocated to hardware devices, like your videocard, PCI bus, etc. This is not BIOS related.

-phil

 

[mebiuspower]

Originally posted by: phile
You will only get full use of 4 or more gigs of RAM with a 64-bit operating system. 32-bit operating systems have a 4GB memory address limit, some of which will be allocated to hardware devices, like your videocard, PCI bus, etc. This is not BIOS related.

-phil

Phil:

I'm aware of the limitation of 32-bit OS. I did tried to put 4x1Gb of ram in my mobo for fun and it didn't even post but that's probably because of my tight timing but I think I'm getting too old to fiddle around with my PC.

 

[nataku00]

Originally posted by: mebiuspower
Has anybody tried flashing to the new 2004 BIOS? It says it improves on memory compatibility. Not sure if it will solve the issue of having 4 sticks 1Gb memory on the board?

I've flashed my p5w dh deluxe to the 2004 BIOS and they seem to be stable. I only run 2 gb of OCZ pc2 6400 though so I can't answer the question of whether or not your issues with 4gb would be solved. It did fix the annoying Intel uCode error message I was getting on startup though

 

[imgeorgelin]

Thanks Phil. But unfortunately it is totally block(the heatpipe almost touched it on the side) that not even a right-angle one will do. But anyway, I "sort of" fixed it by disabling the "press F1 when errors occur" in the BIOS.

Now I have another question, is it even possible to boot up from a SATA DVD-ROM with p5w?

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: imgeorgelin
Hi All,

I just installed the Win XP on my new P5W DH on a SATA HD connected to SATA 3 (Black). A really annoying thing is that everytime it boots up, a message showing:
"NO IDE Master HDD Detected" and I have to press F1 to continue.

Do anyone know how to fix this? I can boot up fine but it's just very nagging. I searched everywhere and couldn't find a solution. Probably plugging the drive to SATA 1(Red) will fix it but my HR-05 totally blocked it

Thanks!

It seems you have answered your own question. If SATA1 is obstructed, perhaps a right-angled SATA cable will help.

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Right-Angle-Serial-ATA-Cable/dp/B0001Y8UCU

-phil

 

[Billyzeke]

Originally posted by: Deusfaux
Looking at results form AT and places, my burst speed looks low on the seagate. they're all on the ICH7R

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/deusfaux/segate.gif

And then I have no idea what the hell's going on with the raptors?! 8mb sectors then 32mb sectors test

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/deusfaux/raptors8.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/deusfaux/raptors32.gif

The seagate burst is low. I have the same drive and get around 238Mbs burst in HDtach.
Did you remove the jumper before installing the drive. The jumper holds the drive back to SATA 150 speeds
for backwards compatability. To get SATA ll 3.0 gb speeds the jumper has to be removed. I learned this the hard way, since Seagate claims everything is set right out of the box in their manual.

 

[nataku00]

Originally posted by: imgeorgelin
Thanks Phil. But unfortunately it is totally block(the heatpipe almost touched it on the side) that not even a right-angle one will do. But anyway, I "sort of" fixed it by disabling the "press F1 when errors occur" in the BIOS.

Now I have another question, is it even possible to boot up from a SATA DVD-ROM with p5w?

Odd, I have my three sata devices (samsung dvd rw, wd raptor and wd hdd) all connected to the black SATA slots, with the raptor plugged into slot1 and the other two devices plugged into slots 3 and 4 and I don't get any ide master errors. I was able to install winxp pro w/ sp2 from my the samsung dvd-rw drive without any issues.

 

[Pippo]

Morning everyone,
Thanks butterbean for your help.
I tryed to dl the fw with the Asus utility but keeps telling me that there is no image available on all three servers so i just accessed the server and dl the file in my pc and will use the utility to load it.
I solved the problem related to a limited size of a SATA drive with partition magic by extending the original size.
New question:
I added an old ide drive to use as a storage for stuff i dont need so often, connected to the JMicron connector (since in the ICH7R connector I have a dvd reader and a dvd burner) and now when I access window I have the JMicron RAID utility crash but i can use the new drive perfectly. guess that somehow the system consider the new drive to be in RAID with the other drive (SATA Seagate drive connected to SATA1).
How can i solve this problem?
Have a good one,
ciao,
Pietro
P.S.
Any recommended program to test the hardware? how reliable is the enclosed ProbeII utility? what are the highest temperature values for cpu (6600) and MB?

 

[mkln]

make sure that the 'CPU' temp in the Probe2 doesn't reach 60C. to measure the core temps use 'everest' or 'coretemp'.. hope that helps.

 

[Pippo]

Ciao, hanks for your reply.
Actually my average cpu temp is between 61 ad 64 C but ProbeII doesn't give me any warning it does for like 50C on the MB.
ciao,
Pietro

 

[mkln]

hm...those temps seem quite high...are you experiencing any instability? i.e. random shutdowns?

 

[Pippo]

Yes, In fact I came back to the forum to write about it; I assembled my pc a few weeks ago and for a couple of times, last one yesterday, i had the pc working in strange ways like, for example yesterday evening, i was ariting a memo in notepad and had it repeat like 40 times the same single letetr then i tried to access task manager and when i did it was higlighting the different process several times with me not even touching the KB or mouse.
I ended up shutting down and restarting it.
It does look like sothing that has to do with the temperature; what looks to be unusual to me is that my case (Gigabyte with 2 X 120mm fans) has the fans connected one to each other so that only one wire comes out and it is connected to power 1.Should I split the cables so that i can connect the 2 different fans to 2 different conenctors?
Thaks in advance for your help,
ciao,
Pietro
P.S.
i stll have to figure it ot how to solve the problme with JMicron application crashing when i enter windows(running XP pro SP2)

 

[mikepaul]

My overheat (or whatever) problems have reached critical levels.

I ordered a big Cooler Master Stacker 810 case last week to reinstall everything into in advance of buying a Coolit Freezone unit, but on Monday I had it shut down on me again when reported temps were only around 57C which wasn't shutdown-worthy before so I have no idea what's up.

I am now running the E6300 at stock 1.87Ghz but idle temp is still high at 46C. I understand that one can crack a motherboard moving it around with a heavy cooler attached, but the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro doesn't even wiggle so I can't tell if there's damage or not until I disassemble.

Should I be looking for a BIOS entry that isn't right?...

 

[mkln]

Originally posted by: Pippo
Yes, In fact I came back to the forum to write about it; I assembled my pc a few weeks ago and for a couple of times, last one yesterday, i had the pc working in strange ways like, for example yesterday evening, i was ariting a memo in notepad and had it repeat like 40 times the same single letetr then i tried to access task manager and when i did it was higlighting the different process several times with me not even touching the KB or mouse.
I ended up shutting down and restarting it.
It does look like sothing that has to do with the temperature; what looks to be unusual to me is that my case (Gigabyte with 2 X 120mm fans) has the fans connected one to each other so that only one wire comes out and it is connected to power 1.Should I split the cables so that i can connect the 2 different fans to 2 different conenctors?
Thaks in advance for your help,
ciao,
Pietro
P.S.
i stll have to figure it ot how to solve the problme with JMicron application crashing when i enter windows(running XP pro SP2)

hm...im not exactly sure what you could do about the 2 fans, but i would suggest you try to run the system with the side panel off and then see what kind of temps you are getting: if the temps are lower and you are no longer having problems, then your problem would most definitely be a result of overheating and i would suggest the purchase of a better case and/or fans and heatsink; if not, then your problem lies elsewhere. however, the temps you posted earlier, i believe anyways, would definitely be a cause for concern. hope that helps

 

[mkln]

Originally posted by: mikepaul
My overheat (or whatever) problems have reached critical levels.

I ordered a big Cooler Master Stacker 810 case last week to reinstall everything into in advance of buying a Coolit Freezone unit, but on Monday I had it shut down on me again when reported temps were only around 57C which wasn't shutdown-worthy before so I have no idea what's up.

I am now running the E6300 at stock 1.87Ghz but idle temp is still high at 46C. I understand that one can crack a motherboard moving it around with a heavy cooler attached, but the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro doesn't even wiggle so I can't tell if there's damage or not until I disassemble.

Should I be looking for a BIOS entry that isn't right?...

the temps you posted, are they the temps reported by ASUS Probe 2?...if so, then that may be a tad high. from intels spec sheet, the temp of 'tcase' (the IHS/CPU temp as reported in the BIOS and Probe 2) should not exceed 60C. i believe the cores should not exceed 80C iirc (as read from coretemp, everest, and TAT)

i dont think that a BIOS entry would be the cause of this. perhaps the warm weather is to blame? i recall you posting earlier about the temps rising a bit now that the weather is warmer. also, depending on how often you move your case around, i suppose it could also be possible that the AC Freezer may have loosened, even though it is HIGHLY unlikely. is the fan still spinning at the same speed from day 1? if not, perhaps the cause is dust.

hope that helps

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: mkln
the temps you posted, are they the temps reported by ASUS Probe 2?...if so, then that may be a tad high. from intels spec sheet, the temp of 'tcase' (the IHS/CPU temp as reported in the BIOS and Probe 2) should not exceed 60C. i believe the cores should not exceed 80C iirc (as read from coretemp, everest, and TAT)

Core Temp is what I use when I mention any temp: I have the latest version running in the tray all the time...

i dont think that a BIOS entry would be the cause of this. perhaps the warm weather is to blame? i recall you posting earlier about the temps rising a bit now that the weather is warmer. also, depending on how often you move your case around, i suppose it could also be possible that the AC Freezer may have loosened, even though it is HIGHLY unlikely. is the fan still spinning at the same speed from day 1? if not, perhaps the cause is dust.

Well, I blasted out the case yesterday so we'll see about dust. There's no movement of the Freezer (and the fan seems to rev up to full speed but I feel no huge breeze behind the cooler) but that doesn't mean it isn't in trouble somehow. The A/C is now on but even without it the temps yesterday were mid-70's at best yet the computer just shut down on me during what had been a normal-for-me use of WinAVI to turn MPEG-2 files into WMV.
Last noticed temp was 57C.

Before I start the move to the new case, I'll do things like strip the covers off the north and southbridges just in case that helps...

 

[nataku00]

mikepaul,

My e6300 at just below your o/c (2.8 ghz) on air with a Tuniq Tower 120 and the P5W DH idles at 22-23°C (measured with ASUS Probe) with ambient temperatures at 24-25°C. I'd re mount the AC freezer one more time to make sure it's not a cooler installation issue.

 

[mkln]

before i had mounted my Tuniq, i regularly had temps in the low to mid 60s (as read from coretemp), and i have not experienced shutdowns...except twice which made no sense at all; the computer was just idle and it reset...it was quite odd. anyways, the only other option i can think of is an unstable PSU, b/c although the temps are a little warm, the system should not shut down as the temps are far from the temp threshold (as per intel spec sheet)*.

*(ill be back later to post a link to the spec sheet if i can find it).

 

[mkln]

hm...i thought i knew where the spec sheet was, but i can't seem to find it atm. well, this link should be used as a guideline and is quite helpful if you've not seen it before:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware...o-Temperature-Guide-ftopict221745.html

 

[Pippo]

I removed the side panel and used the pc for a short while late in the evening and, as expected, the temps were a few degrees lower but, again, I used the pc only for a short while.
I installed coretemp and the temps were in the high sixties, quite different (10 degrees higher) that what reported from probe 2.
What actually scares me the most is the MB temp being around 47 C while idle according to Probe 2.

I still have to upgrade the bios (the MB come with ver.1305) so maybe that will help; next step will be to try to push the fans to work 100% working on the bios setting.
What else should I try?
Also I have seen the cpu fan stopping (according to probe2 which raises a warning), which makes me think that probe 2 is not so reliable (I can't think of that fan being shut down even for a sec; if it will happen again with the side panel off I will see if it is moving or not).
ciao,
Pietro

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: mkln
before i had mounted my Tuniq, i regularly had temps in the low to mid 60s (as read from coretemp), and i have not experienced shutdowns...except twice which made no sense at all; the computer was just idle and it reset...it was quite odd. anyways, the only other option i can think of is an unstable PSU, b/c although the temps are a little warm, the system should not shut down as the temps are far from the temp threshold (as per intel spec sheet)*.

As a better-safe-than-sorry move, yesterday I ordered a Zalman ZM600-HP from Amazon to replace the Cooler Master 450W I'm using. The original was DOA and the replacement has a 4-pin cable that only works well to power my floppy. No sign this is why the temps are also high, but I didn't want to die debt-free anyway.

Only real concern: the Zalman at Amazon was $80, which is abnormally low so I'm expecting a follow-up email telling me it was a mistake. Next lowest price elsewhere was $127 so I'll be depressed if so...

 

[mkln]

Originally posted by: Pippo
I removed the side panel and used the pc for a short while late in the evening and, as expected, the temps were a few degrees lower but, again, I used the pc only for a short while.
I installed coretemp and the temps were in the high sixties, quite different (10 degrees higher) that what reported from probe 2.
What actually scares me the most is the MB temp being around 47 C while idle according to Probe 2.

I still have to upgrade the bios (the MB come with ver.1305) so maybe that will help; next step will be to try to push the fans to work 100% working on the bios setting.
What else should I try?
Also I have seen the cpu fan stopping (according to probe2 which raises a warning), which makes me think that probe 2 is not so reliable (I can't think of that fan being shut down even for a sec; if it will happen again with the side panel off I will see if it is moving or not).
ciao,
Pietro

yep, the temps from coretemp are supposed to be higher than what probe2 reports since core temps uses the digital sensors within the actual cores (the hottest part of the processor). one thing i would suggest is that you turn off the fan control utility (q-fan). when i first put my system together i had q-fan control my CPU fan, thus not allowing it to work at it its full RPM. i immediately noticed a drop in temps, however, your temps are quite a bit higher than what i had...how is your cable management? after i installed my Tuniq, i figured i might as well rearrange some cables. since then, my mobo temp has decreased a bit . although it may not be due to the arrangement of cables, but rather the installation of a better CPU cooler. even though your mobo temp is a bit high, it is not really a cause for concern; the sensor is very close to the southbridge chip so if you have any SATA devices working, the southbridge chip will run hotter, thus, increasing your 'motherboard' temp. iirc, the threshold for the SB chip is 100C (someone correct me if im wrong).

i have heard issues before about the cpu fan stopping; this has been with both the stock HS as well as the ACF 7 pro. if Probe 2 reports that the fan RPM is 0, then definitely verify whether the fan is or is not actually working. although many people just dismiss Probe2's readings, i would suggest that you consider them fairly accurate for daily use.

hope that helps

 

[mkln]

Originally posted by: mikepaul

Originally posted by: mkln
before i had mounted my Tuniq, i regularly had temps in the low to mid 60s (as read from coretemp), and i have not experienced shutdowns...except twice which made no sense at all; the computer was just idle and it reset...it was quite odd. anyways, the only other option i can think of is an unstable PSU, b/c although the temps are a little warm, the system should not shut down as the temps are far from the temp threshold (as per intel spec sheet)*.

As a better-safe-than-sorry move, yesterday I ordered a Zalman ZM600-HP from Amazon to replace the Cooler Master 450W I'm using. The original was DOA and the replacement has a 4-pin cable that only works well to power my floppy. No sign this is why the temps are also high, but I didn't want to die debt-free anyway.

Only real concern: the Zalman at Amazon was $80, which is abnormally low so I'm expecting a follow-up email telling me it was a mistake. Next lowest price elsewhere was $127 so I'll be depressed if so...

wow! $47 difference...hopefully they will honor that 'mistake' , and the new PSU stabilizes your system.

 

[imported_Michka]

Hello,
Decided to test the cpu qfan system on the mobo. It seems to me that the speed of the fan is not controlled by the cpu or core temp, but by the chipset temp instead. Which is very stupid in my view. Any idea on this? Am I wrong?

 

[SavageThrash]

Hey all, i haven't been up to date on this thread for a while. Any new bios updates (last i got was probably December or so) and also is it possible to run any memory faster then pc-6400? I may be able to get a deal on some pc-8000 stuff, is it gonna work fine with this mobo or am i best to stick with pc-6400?

Thnx Savage

 

[mkln]

Originally posted by: Michka
Hello,
Decided to test the cpu qfan system on the mobo. It seems to me that the speed of the fan is not controlled by the cpu or core temp, but by the chipset temp instead. Which is very stupid in my view. Any idea on this? Am I wrong?

i have not noticed that. iirc, the stock CPU fan will rev up as the CPU temp goes up.