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purbeast0

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Meh, plenty of teams will own the Colts this year with that atrocious line play. The Skins are going to remain in the basement of the NFC East, though.

NFCE really has no one to be scared of IMO. the giants had a flukey ass run at the end of last year, and the cowboys and skins are going to be middle of the pack as usual, and the eagles are going to be so over hyped and be mediocore as well.

that is my prediction for the division.
 

SunnyD

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I'm quite happy watching the Carolina/Jets game right now. The Jets are getting Boo'd off the field on every possession... and they're the HOME team.
 

BUTCH1

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I'm quite happy watching the Carolina/Jets game right now. The Jets are getting Boo'd off the field on every possession... and they're the HOME team.

I think Cam's ready to lead that team this year, watch out...
 

MetalMat

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I'm quite happy watching the Carolina/Jets game right now. The Jets are getting Boo'd off the field on every possession... and they're the HOME team.




Jets are going to be terrible, 6 wins max. Just keep up the circus act Jets franchise while the Giants win superbowls
 
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IndyColtsFan

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I hate to say "I told you so" AMDZen, but: I TOLD YOU SO

Denver: Will a dreadful defense hijack Peyton Manning's Mile High debut?
The conventional wisdom out of Indianapolis over the past 14 years was that Peyton Manning's Colts routinely fell short of Super Bowl success because of its sub-standard defense. If that's the case, it could be a very disappointing year in Denver, where the Broncos need to make vast improvements on defense to be Super Bowl worthy.
The Denver D produced a few sparkling moments last year, but it was largely abused, surrendering 24.4 PPG last year (24th). It was torched for 40-plus points in five games, including three times in the final five games.
The truth is that the defense Tim Tebow played with last year in Denver was worse than almost all those Manning was paired with during his years in Indy.

• Manning's Colts gave up more yards than the 2011 Broncos only twice (1998, 2004)
• Manning's Colts gave up more points than the 2011 Broncos only twice (1998, 2011)
• Manning's Colts gave up a higher Defensive Passer Rating than the 2011 Broncos only once (1998)

Meanwhile, Manning played with four defenses in Indy that ranked in the top eight in scoring. Denver has fielded just three defenses ranked in the top eight in scoring since Manning was a rookie in 1998.
Manning will need a super-human 2004-type performance this year if the Broncos don't show some dramatic improvements on defense.



The only area Denver could be reasonably considered better than the Colts the last few years would be in rushing offense, and even that comparison wouldn't hold water in the days of Edgerrin James and Marshall Faulk.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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Oh, and to all those assholes who blasted me a couple of years ago when I blasted the Cardinals for their trade with Philly for Kevin Kolb:

I TOLD YOU SO.
 

JujuFish

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The AFC East went a combined 1-15 in preseason. I know preseason doesn't mean anything, but that's funny.

The Bills have a soft schedule this year, especially in the second half. I'll be disappointed if they don't take second in the division, but I'll be surprised if second in the AFC East is good enough for a wild card.
 

MetalMat

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The AFC East went a combined 1-15 in preseason. I know preseason doesn't mean anything, but that's funny.

The Bills have a soft schedule this year, especially in the second half. I'll be disappointed if they don't take second in the division, but I'll be surprised if second in the AFC East is good enough for a wild card.

Preseason records mean jack, the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason the year they went 0-16
 

JohnnyGage

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Oh, and to all those assholes who blasted me a couple of years ago when I blasted the Cardinals for their trade with Philly for Kevin Kolb:

I TOLD YOU SO.

I will take your word for it. I am still a Kolb supporter, just because I think he is the lesser of two evils. He has been doing/saying the right things, so this will be our make or break year for Whisenhunt and Kolb.

Personally I think the O-line and Offensive coordinator are atrocious, so that doesn't help things.
 

JujuFish

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The AFC East went a combined 1-15 in preseason. I know preseason doesn't mean anything, but that's funny.

The Bills have a soft schedule this year, especially in the second half. I'll be disappointed if they don't take second in the division, but I'll be surprised if second in the AFC East is good enough for a wild card.
Preseason records mean jack, the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason the year they went 0-16
Uh, yeah, no kidding. I said that in my post.
I know preseason doesn't mean anything
 
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I hate to say "I told you so" AMDZen, but: I TOLD YOU SO

ah more empty stats. The Colts defense was built in such a way as to protect a lead, because they had a undersized defensive tackles, smaller linebackers, and great pass rushers. But when the games were kept close and ball control was important, the Colts just couldn't stop the run. Hence why the Colts tried to draft tackles like Moala or trade for them (McCargo).

The Colts defense was not a good defense, I hated the way they were built. But, it was effective given that Manning often quickly built a lead.
 

IndyColtsFan

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ah more empty stats. The Colts defense was built in such a way as to protect a lead, because they had a undersized defensive tackles, smaller linebackers, and great pass rushers. But when the games were kept close and ball control was important, the Colts just couldn't stop the run. Hence why the Colts tried to draft tackles like Moala or trade for them (McCargo).

The Colts defense was not a good defense, I hated the way they were built. But, it was effective given that Manning often quickly built a lead.

Of course it wasn't a good defense, which I never claimed it was. The point was that the Broncos D isn't any better or at least, their defense last year wasn't any better than the Colts' defenses in the Manning era.
 
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Of course it wasn't a good defense, which I never claimed it was. The point was that the Broncos D isn't any better or at least, their defense last year wasn't any better than the Colts' defenses in the Manning era.

I'm just saying those stats are meaningless because defensive stats are somewhat dependent on offensive success, and that it is especially true for the Colts' defensive stats of that era. Of course, I don't think Denver's defense is any good either, and maybe Manning is worse off, but in my opinion, the article doesn't really provide good enough evidence for its claim.
 

MetalMat

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So anyone making predictions? Here are mine, feel free to criticize me in January:

NFC East:
1. NY Giants
2. Philidelphia Eagles
3. Dallas Cowboys
4. Washington Redskins

NFC North:
1. Green Bay Packers
2. Chicago Bears
3. Detroit Lions
4. Minnesota Vikings

NFC West:
1. SF 49ers
2. Seattle Seahawks
3. St. Louis Rams
4. Arizona Cardinals

NFC South
1. New Orleans Saints
2. Atlanta Falcons
3. Carolina Panthers
4. TB Bucs
 

MetalMat

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AFC East:
1. New England Patriots
2. Buffalo Bills
3. NY Jets
4. Miami Dolphins

AFC North
1. Baltimore Ravens
2. Cincinnati Bengals
3. Pittsburgh Steelers
4. Cleveland Browns

AFC West
1. Oakland Raiders
2. San Diego Charges
3. Denver Broncos
4. KC Chiefs

AFC South
1. Houston Texans
2. Tennessee Titans
3. Indy Colts
4. Jacksonville Jaguars
 
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