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Childs

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It seems that since they made noob tubes less attractive they had to replace them with something else.

That being said - be warned that I will use the mortar on ATOT's server when playing rush (once I get it )

bastard!

Anyone else miss the commander and the assets? I liked that those could be deployed to help your team

lol I didnt miss it when the commander would drop it on my head! But yeah, most of the real BF2 stuff was left out of BF3. Doesnt make it a bad game, just something different.
 

Zargon

Lifer
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During the development process, considering the fervor with which they stated this was a BF2 successor, I had the idea that there would be limited ammo to balance things out. Obviously that quickly got dispelled by Alpha, which, I might add, they held mortar out of alpha and beta. So after that I had the idea that surely you'd have to use teamwork to use mortars, as in some kind of spotting requirement(like BF1942 artillery), or SOFLAM, etc.

But alas, no.

With that said, mortars aren't that powerful on conquest. On rush they are no doubt devastating but on conquest not so much. Of course, they still piss people off since the only real way to get back at them is to go mortar yourself.

spotting helps you out mortaring. while IRL mortar crews are generally 3 people, its very possible to one man them AFAIK. Limited ammo would be a HUGE plus.

True. Example: Their original intention for BF3 was to have spawn on squad leader only, but they reversed this decision because the attackers in the alpha had too hard of a time advancing.

that is now a SERVER SIDE option. while you cannot sort by it, its available as a check box on Procon

It seems that since they made noob tubes less attractive they had to replace them with something else.

That being said - be warned that I will use the mortar on ATOT's server when playing rush (once I get it )

yeah I will too.......the tighter the map the better, some dude was OWNING me, but I almost banned him for mortar spamming the defender spawn, its just dirty pool



From the hip works very well. I also seem to remember reading somewhere that some scopes take longer than others. I think the more powerful the scope the longer it takes

i hip fired ATON in BC2. i need to find my spare stick on crosshairs....great for no scoping....(get em on ebay, ubert cheap...)

Anyone else miss the commander and the assets? I liked that those could be deployed to help your team

yes I miss it. being SL is OK but half the time your squad ignores the hell out of you, or gully is in your squad asking for orders every 10 seconds
 

maniacalpha1-1

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spotting helps you out mortaring. while IRL mortar crews are generally 3 people, its very possible to one man them AFAIK. Limited ammo would be a HUGE plus.

Limited ammo would make them completely useless. It may be different on Rush but on Conquest you can fire 10 shots at a minimap triangle and not get a kill. And, as a matter of fact, it's entirely possible that the kills that you do get are from finishing off wounded enemies- there's no way to know, but I think the fact that even when you get no kills you get assists is suggestive of that.
 

Exterous

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lol I didnt miss it when the commander would drop it on my head! But yeah, most of the real BF2 stuff was left out of BF3. Doesnt make it a bad game, just something different.

I had completely forgotten Death by Supply Crate and Death by Humvee Drop! Talk about satisfying kills!
 

HeXen

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how do you spot enemies. when i bring up the quick command, i can only say a few generic things. i miss being able to call for medic or ammo, but spotting doesnt seem to work as i remember it, but its been a long while.
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
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I actually pulled my Xonar and downclocked my factory OC'd 570s a bit to see if it is on my end. The problem with that is every game prior to BF3 hasn't caused these kinds of problems. I had like 3-4 really good games in a row and then I kept getting kicked or the game would crash. Once it stabilized I was too pissed to play good. But then it kinda self corrected after not doing anything to fix it. I think it might have to do with the player counts. On Tugboat I start to have problems when its full, not when its half full. I didnt really have these problems in the beta.


interesting, wonder how the downclock will work.

All I do is hip fire. More times than not I can hip fire in semi auto mode with sub machine guns and still take 2 guys out. (for example) But with a lot of kills in this game, its when you run into someone and which way you/they are facing.

thanks for putting your gimme kill on my jet in there

what do you record with and what do you edit with? fraps file sizes are HUGE at 50fps and half size recording
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
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Ah, so you're the other person who got a physical copy of the game. Pre-ordered mine back in February...

boxed and digital copy from amazon......boxed copy still in the shrink wrap


on shelf next to bf2, bf2sf, vietnam, 1942, 2142.

been meaning to get a boxed copy of bc2
 

Termie

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boxed and digital copy from amazon......boxed copy still in the shrink wrap


on shelf next to bf2, bf2sf, vietnam, 1942, 2142.

been meaning to get a boxed copy of bc2

LOL, you are quite the connoisseur of boxes! Did you honestly buy it just to display it or as a backup of some kind?

I actually also have a boxed copy, from Newegg - I'm giving it to my bro - makes a nicer gift presentation than a download, and it's also easier for him to install.
 

Destiny

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How many people bought a hard copy of the PC version, vs. Digital sales?

This may have been available as a digital version from Xbox Live and the Playstation store, but doesn't that eliminate the resale/trade in option? So who would do it?

fwiw I don't know a single person who got the BF3 box copy for PC, everyone got the digital copy from origin or amazon


I bought the PC Hardcopy DISC version from Origin using my birthday code..
 

Childs

Lifer
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thanks for putting your gimme kill on my jet in there

I sat in that AA thingy for 13 minutes and just annoyed people all that time until I got that kill.

what do you record with and what do you edit with? fraps file sizes are HUGE at 50fps and half size recording

Using Dxtory. It cost like $10 more than Fraps, but you can select a different capture codec and arbitrarily set the resolution which can help on the file size. I use UT codec in 4:2:0. MSI Afterburner is similar, and its free. Edit with Premiere Pro.

BTW, this is the first Battlefield game that I dont have a box for. I may pick one up when they are cheap.
 

flexy

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I just got BF3 installed after some initial problems, my system is NOT the best, i have a Quad at 3.6ghz but only a GTX 275 (running at 1680x1050). HOWEVER - i am blown away by the graphics and the sound....and i just played campaign a little bit, didnt even look at MP yet. This game is fricking amazing.
 

KaOTiK

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You know, the problems that keep popping up now for me I didn't have at all for the first few days I played.

The bullshit of not keeping my vehicles unlocks remember at the start of a new round, more specifically, it shows that I have thermal optics selected for the second thing and when I first enter a tank in a new round I have freaking smoke ever single god damn time, then when I die and go back to customize it shows smoke instead of thermal.

Sometimes my mouse and/or keyboard starts becoming unresponsive, if I hit ESC and hit it again to cancel that menu it works fine again.

There are lots of times when I spot a guy in plain freaking view, my guy even says hey I spotted blah blah blah and yet the guy does have an arrow over him.

Now of this crap happened the first few days but now it is all becoming really common. The smoke/thermal issue happens every single time I start a new round now regardless. Has been like 20 games in a row, I swear if I had the boxed copy of this game the disc would of been broke and half and the box shredded apart and thrown all over the place by now in my anger at that alone.
 

Childs

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With BF3's hype i decided to give it a go. I'm certainly enjoying it, but one thing I'm still getting used to, is the amount of unlocks and how powerful they are. In BF1942, everyone was at the same level. Can you even compete as a newer player down the road vs. people who have unlocked gadgets and special abilities? When they give us the first set of maps with Wake and such, will there be a large number of people who have every unlock?

I hate this about modern shooters. Its a rich get richer kind of thing. You get the game on day one and you are good, so they are going to make it easier for you by giving you advantages that you obviously dont need. You buy it later, well, you have to swim up river for awhile. IMO all the guns and stuff should be unlocked from the beginning. At least in COD many people prestige so good players still use the starting guns. I know its a psychological carrot used to keep people playing longer, but its cheap. At least with BF3 the starting guns are competent.

As it is now I was rushing to get the UMP-45, and now rushing to get the Saiga so I can relax and enjoy the game.


You know, the problems that keep popping up now for me I didn't have at all for the first few days I played.


I tend to agree with this. Its like it gets worse as more and more people start playing.
 
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The-Noid

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Can't believe how many hackers there are. Pretty quick way to see is just look at standard deviation of scores. There are people that are better than others don't get me wrong but I keep seeing 6-7-8 sigma scores at the top. People aren't THAT MUCH better without hacking. For a game that is already out I can't believe how ridiculous the amount of hackers there are. 6k to 1.1k average is not something that is possible...
 

rgallant

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You know, the problems that keep popping up now for me I didn't have at all for the first few days I played.

The bullshit of not keeping my vehicles unlocks remember at the start of a new round, more specifically, it shows that I have thermal optics selected for the second thing and when I first enter a tank in a new round I have freaking smoke ever single god damn time, then when I die and go back to customize it shows smoke instead of thermal.

Sometimes my mouse and/or keyboard starts becoming unresponsive, if I hit ESC and hit it again to cancel that menu it works fine again.

There are lots of times when I spot a guy in plain freaking view, my guy even says hey I spotted blah blah blah and yet the guy does have an arrow over him.

Now of this crap happened the first few days but now it is all becoming really common. The smoke/thermal issue happens every single time I start a new round now regardless. Has been like 20 games in a row, I swear if I had the boxed copy of this game the disc would of been broke and half and the box shredded apart and thrown all over the place by now in my anger at that alone.
maybe do a repair
all my tank\any of the settings keep.
-I did not rebind any of my keys - have a g13 and removed the joystick binds for now
 

CVSiN

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Jul 19, 2004
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how do you spot enemies. when i bring up the quick command, i can only say a few generic things. i miss being able to call for medic or ammo, but spotting doesnt seem to work as i remember it, but its been a long while.

center what you want to spot in the empty center hexagon.. release..

3D spotted


quick is just a quick press of Q but does not give full 3D spot.
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
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center what you want to spot in the empty center hexagon.. release..

3D spotted


quick is just a quick press of Q but does not give full 3D spot.

Wait, what? He's asking how to spot enemies. I am pretty sure you just center the target in the middle of your scope and tap Q. You don't need to hold and release. What's 3D spotted/
 

CVSiN

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Jul 19, 2004
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Wait, what? He's asking how to spot enemies. I am pretty sure you just center the target in the middle of your scope and tap Q. You don't need to hold and release. What's 3D spotted/

there is a difference between a quick spot and a full spot.
 

Destiny

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The game is incredibly fun and one of the best looking games currently available. Must of done something right.

I saw you had plenty fun mortoring me to Vahalla last night!

What was DICE thinking with the mortar, anyway? Those guys are just blind-firing, right? Yeah, that's way more annoying that the sniper mortar in BC2. Which actually highlights that much of the mortar fire in BC2 was in open territory or from a hillside, which is reasonable. Mortar fire from block to another block, where you have absolutely no chance to see your enemy, is just absurdly stupid and game-breaking. I must have been hit 10 times by that crap last night.

Nizology and Zargon (or maybe someone else) went on a mortoring frenzy last night - I can picture them laughing in front of their PCs everytime they get a kill...

In one map I tried to sneak up to Zargon to knife him but he shut off his mortor in time to kill me!
Same here.

PS- I love my mortars- leave them be!

Just be sure to check your six! I love sneaking up on mortors to knife them! Even if that ment I die being longer than 10 seconds in the opposing teams spawn. Just because people hiding in their own spawn mortoring does not guarantee their safety! LOL :ninja:
 

DeadFred

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I saw you had plenty fun mortoring me to Vahalla last night!



Nizology and Zargon (or maybe someone else) went on a mortoring frenzy last night - I can picture them laughing in front of their PCs everytime they get a kill...

In one map I tried to sneak up to Zargon to knife him but he shut off his mortor in time to kill me!


Just be sure to check your six! I love sneaking up on mortors to knife them! Even if that ment I die being longer than 10 seconds in the opposing teams spawn. Just because people hiding in their own spawn mortoring does not guarantee their safety! LOL :ninja:
MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :biggrin:

Yeah I get a knifed some, but its sooooooo worth it. I especially love seeing 3 or 4 orange triangles huddled up in corner on my mortar map. BOOOM! 400 points! BAHAHAHAHA!!!! :biggrin:
 
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