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s44

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Add some AT platoon folks to your friends list.

There are some awesome chopper pilots in the platoon, but two coordinated engineers with AA can kill most anything. Also, SOFLAM + guided shells = air superiority.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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lol i installed and played some bf play4free and couldn't stop. It feels easier to kill people in that game. Ammo is very limited though so you can only get a few kills in before you need an ammo drop. Health doesn't regen so you have to be more careful. Some of the maps are bigger but it's usually very open and sparse except for some trees or rocks here and there. Also if you don't have a vehicle you have to hoof it for a while. I changed my keys and didn't have a enter vehicle button bound so I found that out the hard way. In BF Free you can't change keys w/out disconnecting.

Karkand should be good. Once I got in I remembered it from bf2. Played Dragon Island or whatever it was called and that was pretty fun too.

Vehicles are real deadly also. Didn't fly a plane but driving the humvee was real smooth. You swim slow as fuck. Parachute slows you down in the air a lot also. There were plenty of non team players and campers also. Might be because it's the free version. Was still fun though.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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Man, all of the high level people in jets make it really frustrating to keep playing. You can't shoot them down at all because they just keep dumping flares or at times you can't even lock on at all. Makes me want to just stick with small maps or play team DM all the time, but at that point you lose a lot of what makes BF different.

I dunno. I don't get to play often so I'm getting ruined by the people who do. More so than in that OTHER game.
 

Bryf50

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Nov 11, 2006
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Yay for entire teams of Engineers with SCARs. Infantry maps are unplayable until it gets fixed.
 

leeland

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Man, all of the high level people in jets make it really frustrating to keep playing. You can't shoot them down at all because they just keep dumping flares or at times you can't even lock on at all. Makes me want to just stick with small maps or play team DM all the time, but at that point you lose a lot of what makes BF different.

I dunno. I don't get to play often so I'm getting ruined by the people who do. More so than in that OTHER game.

I feel your pain...you need to have multiple guys with the same objective vs. a single guy going after these jets and choppers that armed to the gills

I usually play after 8 and mostly on the weekends

Add me if you are on we can team up 'talktolee'
 

Maximilian

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Well ive come to a conclusion about the LMG's. M240B actually seems better at range, M249 will hit enemies more but wont kill them as much they will scurry off and hide whereas the M240B will actually kill them as long as you shoot 1 bullet at a time.

Also M240B + extended mag = fecking rambo when up close, dont even bother aiming down the sights sometimes :awe:

<3 support!
 

razor2025

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Not sure about SCAR's issues. I can't kill anything worth a damn with it in hardcore mode. I also don't get why they're messing with Jets and Stingers... I think they're fine. I think they should give unlocks for Stinger/RPGs/SMAW/Javelin too, just to make it worth using besides completing objectives... Now things they SHOULD fix...

- IRNV, you should be blind when using that outdoors.. like in real life. It's essentially a semi-wall hack right now. None of the harsh lights in the game affects it. Needs major nerf.

- Mortars, needs major nerf to range and/or ROF. It's especially bad in Rush maps. 2-3 support guys and literally lock ANY outdoor MCOMs down with sustained mortar fire. You have 0 chance (dis)arming it. I originally thought it was direct fire weapon... but it's not...

EOD bot controls is also wonky...

Give the C4 back to recon... Recon has 0 way of killing any vehicles right now. It's annoying.

Some Maps or sections of it have terrible balance issue. The poster child for this is the Conquest for Metro... there are servers dedicated to running this "meat grinder" map. The only time I've seen RU side losing was due to completely inept team.

Firing off smoke round should give some points to encourage people to use them more. I've often find only myself giving my team cover on Damavand or Metro Rush. It's really effective as a feint or cover for real charge. It's sucks right now because you get 0 points for helping out your team and the game is all about unlocks.
 

Childs

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Yay for entire teams of Engineers with SCARs. Infantry maps are unplayable until it gets fixed.

Out of curiosity, on Tugboat are you the one who typed "f*** this broken infantry combat!" then bailed? :biggrin:
 
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GoodRevrnd

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Ah snap just went 21-2 Firestorm in the tank. BEASTMODE ENGAGE!

As for C4 recon, ya I kinda miss it, but if I want to play that way PDW support C4 is pretty much Spec Ops class from BF2. Recon's ability to "kill" vehicles is SOFLAM I guess.
 

VulgarDisplay

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I really think they should wait to nerf the stingers until more people have all the jet unlocks. Stingers are pretty much a non issue to me after getting stealth, flares, and maintenance.


Anyways, the only thing that needs to be nerfed in this game is the Mobile AA. It's basically impossible to destroy it from the air. They need to make it more vulnerable to infantry by limiting how low it's main weapon can shoot. Like have it so it can't shoot below 5 feet high. Would go a long way to fixing this broken monstrosity.
 

novasatori

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Feb 27, 2003
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I see the new server filters are up, and infantry only is available. Playing on a 1k ticket infantry only 64 player server and it's like I am experiencing a whole new game. It owns.
 

llee

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Really? I find that making a single pass with rockets is usually enough to disable it. Twice to kill it.
 

novasatori

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Anyways, the only thing that needs to be nerfed in this game is the Mobile AA. It's basically impossible to destroy it from the air. They need to make it more vulnerable to infantry by limiting how low it's main weapon can shoot. Like have it so it can't shoot below 5 feet high. Would go a long way to fixing this broken monstrosity.

mobile aa gets shredded by helicopter if you don't go near it, guided rockets can own it from all the way across the map
 

Zargon

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Nov 3, 2009
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Ah snap just went 21-2 Firestorm in the tank. BEASTMODE ENGAGE!

As for C4 recon, ya I kinda miss it, but if I want to play that way PDW support C4 is pretty much Spec Ops class from BF2. Recon's ability to "kill" vehicles is SOFLAM I guess.

yeah ump+c4 aint bad

but its hard to put down the M249 with ext mag

I really think they should wait to nerf the stingers until more people have all the jet unlocks. Stingers are pretty much a non issue to me after getting stealth, flares, and maintenance.


Anyways, the only thing that needs to be nerfed in this game is the Mobile AA. It's basically impossible to destroy it from the air. They need to make it more vulnerable to infantry by limiting how low it's main weapon can shoot. Like have it so it can't shoot below 5 feet high. Would go a long way to fixing this broken monstrosity.

yeah mobile AA is a bit OP with a few unlocks, and it can rape infantry, murder HUMVEE's and even kill tanks


Really? I find that making a single pass with rockets is usually enough to disable it. Twice to kill it.
but if the AA guy is half worth his shit you will be on fire after the first pass

I see the new server filters are up, and infantry only is available. Playing on a 1k ticket infantry only 64 player server and it's like I am experiencing a whole new game. It owns.

yeah that went up yesterday afternoon
 
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Worthington

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I have a really hard time with the Mobile AA on Operation Firestorm (I think that's the map).. the sky on that map is completely washed out and the crosshairs just blend right in.
 

Demo24

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I wish you could disable rpgs on infantry maps. It was ok the first few days, now it feels like everyone and their extended family is engineer with scar and smraw(or whatever it's called). The rockets themselves are bad enough, but with the smoke trails you can't see anything for a few seconds afterwards. Becomes really problematic when your trying to clear a hallway and engineers keep firing rockets down it so you can't see, even on thermal, and it never gets properly cleared.
 

hondaf17

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For those of you discussing flying with mouse/keyboard, have you tried flying with just the keyboard? Left hand on WSAD as usual, right hand on arrow keys. Simply hold down the arrow key to bank rather than constantly swiping your mouse across mouse pad. A lot of very good pilots in my clan and they all fly this way. Might be worth a try for you.
 

Demo24

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Aug 5, 2004
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For those of you discussing flying with mouse/keyboard, have you tried flying with just the keyboard? Left hand on WSAD as usual, right hand on arrow keys. Simply hold down the arrow key to bank rather than constantly swiping your mouse across mouse pad. A lot of very good pilots in my clan and they all fly this way. Might be worth a try for you.


I didn't know you could do this, going to try it next time. :hmm:
 

Zargon

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Nov 3, 2009
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For those of you discussing flying with mouse/keyboard, have you tried flying with just the keyboard? Left hand on WSAD as usual, right hand on arrow keys. Simply hold down the arrow key to bank rather than constantly swiping your mouse across mouse pad. A lot of very good pilots in my clan and they all fly this way. Might be worth a try for you.

i didnt like how it felt
 

Worthington

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Apr 29, 2005
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I wish you could disable rpgs on infantry maps. It was ok the first few days, now it feels like everyone and their extended family is engineer with scar and smraw(or whatever it's called). The rockets themselves are bad enough, but with the smoke trails you can't see anything for a few seconds afterwards. Becomes really problematic when your trying to clear a hallway and engineers keep firing rockets down it so you can't see, even on thermal, and it never gets properly cleared.

Lol, last night I spawned at the Alley flag on that Market map.. in one of the side rooms. As l looked out into the alley itself all I saw was RPGs flying back and forth. At least 6 in the span of like 4 seconds.
 

novasatori

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For those of you discussing flying with mouse/keyboard, have you tried flying with just the keyboard? Left hand on WSAD as usual, right hand on arrow keys. Simply hold down the arrow key to bank rather than constantly swiping your mouse across mouse pad. A lot of very good pilots in my clan and they all fly this way. Might be worth a try for you.

That's how I fly jets when I get into a dog fight, I circle with the kb then when I can pull lead and get them I go to the mouse, it is more precise than the arrow keys.

for the helicopter I use mouse though since you rarely have to move it
 

The-Noid

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Nov 16, 2005
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It is really hard to get jet unlocks now that everyone has stingers. I wanted to wait until last to get jets but I should have done it first.

Stinger, flare, stinger, stinger, stinger...etc.

Unlock all the jet unlocks in the mean time...
 

ArchAngel777

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Man, all of the high level people in jets make it really frustrating to keep playing. You can't shoot them down at all because they just keep dumping flares or at times you can't even lock on at all. Makes me want to just stick with small maps or play team DM all the time, but at that point you lose a lot of what makes BF different.

I dunno. I don't get to play often so I'm getting ruined by the people who do. More so than in that OTHER game.

At first my opinion was that unlocks don't help much. However, in the case of vehicles, that is obviously false. I figured out why I couldn't release flares when I flew the jet. Guess why? I didn't unlock them... We-Todd-Ed... Because in real life you have to unlock counter measures? Really stupid, IMO.

This is a real turn off for the aircraft. How is someone new supposed to compete with a high ranked person? The whole Kill/Death ratio is skewed as a result of this ranking system. Because if you start the game late, you will die more even against a same skilled person, this in turns delays the the level up and unlocks, which perpetuates a skewed kill/death ratio for your 'all time' stats.

I am not a stat whore, but, this is really dissapointing. The goal is to have fun, but it isn't fun to fly an aircraft and get shot down the minute someone has lock because you have no way to counter it. WEAK.

Ok, enough of my griping. No one likes a complainer. The game is still fun. I am sure it will all work out in the end.
 
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