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DeadFred

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This wouldn't be too bad if there was no noob tubes, rpgs, frag rounds, etc, or if people didn't spam them like little bit****. LMGs will be a problem as well. Oh well, I look forward to breaking out the M1014 and 870 with tact lights!
Ill be the fool sniping, but going positive on the KDR most of the time. Loved doing that on Shipment and Killhouse and freaking everyone out. :biggrin:
 

Nintendesert

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I want Dual Berettas for all those indoor CQB maps = Chow Yun-Fat style! :twisted:

Single pistols are not going to cut it!



Ooo you inspire me sir! I want, nay, need! Dual-RPGs!! I will call it the double fists of God! :twisted:
 

realjetavenger

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This wouldn't be too bad if there was no noob tubes, rpgs, frag rounds, etc, or if people didn't spam them like little bit****. LMGs will be a problem as well. Oh well, I look forward to breaking out the M1014 and 870 with tact lights!

Oh cr@p, I didn't think of that. It's going to be tac light heaven (or nightmare?). You're going to spend most of the time on these maps with those lights in your face, blinded by them. Great.

What would be fun, is one of these new maps with pistols only. (Whether the g18 can be used is up for debate.)
On graw and graw2 we used to set up matches where you could only use one type of weapon. Some times it was explosives only, sometimes pistols only. The pistol only battles were a lot of fun. And being pistols (that couldn't kill you from halfway across the map like can happen in bf3) forced up close and personal engagement. If dice wants up close and personal, that would do it.
 

realjetavenger

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So I wonder if this new gameplay mode will be CTF since the maps will be smaller and indoors?

With my luck, yes. And DICE will only implement it for small, vehicle-less, maps.

I'd still take CTF on the new maps vs no CTF at all.

Will the new mode be for all available maps not just the new ones?
Even though it is very un-battlefield, wonder if the new mode may be something like last man standing? Sure, no teamplay or squad based play. But why should that stop them from making a mode unlike anything bf related? With the cramped new maps, that mode could work. But for the larger, open maps, it would not.
 

Childs

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Oh cr@p, I didn't think of that. It's going to be tac light heaven (or nightmare?). You're going to spend most of the time on these maps with those lights in your face, blinded by them. Great.

What would be fun, is one of these new maps with pistols only. (Whether the g18 can be used is up for debate.)
On graw and graw2 we used to set up matches where you could only use one type of weapon. Some times it was explosives only, sometimes pistols only. The pistol only battles were a lot of fun. And being pistols (that couldn't kill you from halfway across the map like can happen in bf3) forced up close and personal engagement. If dice wants up close and personal, that would do it.

Yeah, its too bad server admins don't have the ability to limit weapons and accessories. If the server is unranked, you should have the ability to do it.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Yeah, its too bad server admins don't have the ability to limit weapons and accessories. If the server is unranked, you should have the ability to do it.

Well, actually, here's the problem. I don't think servers should be allowed to limit weapons in any way on ranked servers. HOWEVER, if servers were allowed to make it so that certain weapons cannot even be spawned with, that would be acceptable. What we have now is a situation where the game allows you to spawn with the weapons, allows you to use the weapons, and then the corrupt servers swoop in and ban you for doing it.

If DICE is going to allow the servers to do this stuff, they should give the servers the tools that allow them to prevent players from even spawning with them. But the game allowing people to do something and then players get banned for it isn't right.

Also, it has recently come to my attention that a lot of players don't like large maps because they don't like vehicle rape, since large maps have jets and tanks and rapecopters. So, I think servers should have the ability to have large maps that have transport vehicles only, ie, quadbikes, humvees, transport choppers with weak door guns, unarmed APCs.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Thats why I specified this should be ok on unranked.

A lot of people point out that unranked status is a death sentence in most cases, because so many people won't play them without stat collection due to BF3's insanely long unlock system.

Are there going to be any vehicle in Close Quarters? if NOT, then I would be unable to understand why DICE would let anyone spawn with an RPG, knowing the half the servers will ban for it. I mean, either remove it from infantry only play, or crack down on servers who ban for it. Shit or get off the pot, DICE.
 

Zargon

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Well, actually, here's the problem. I don't think servers should be allowed to limit weapons in any way on ranked servers. HOWEVER, if servers were allowed to make it so that certain weapons cannot even be spawned with, that would be acceptable. What we have now is a situation where the game allows you to spawn with the weapons, allows you to use the weapons, and then the corrupt servers swoop in and ban you for doing it.
If DICE is going to allow the servers to do this stuff, they should give the servers the tools that allow them to prevent players from even spawning with them. But the game allowing people to do something and then players get banned for it isn't right.

corrupt? wtf is your problem? so entitled

those servers HEAVILY advertise the rules and warn people first, you act like they pretend to be vanilla then ban you out of nowhere

if people are that stupid to go ahead and keep doing it after being warned they deserve the banning

almost as bad as the DRCU guys and don7bl1nk complaining about servers(WHO ADVERTISE) that they have high tickets, not running stock tickets



Also, it has recently come to my attention that a lot of players don't like large maps because they don't like vehicle rape, since large maps have jets and tanks and rapecopters. So, I think servers should have the ability to have large maps that have transport vehicles only, ie, quadbikes, humvees, transport choppers with weak door guns, unarmed APCs.

yes they used to.....didnt bf2 have that?
 

maniacalpha1-1

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corrupt? wtf is your problem? so entitled

those servers HEAVILY advertise the rules and warn people first, you act like they pretend to be vanilla then ban you out of nowhere

if people are that stupid to go ahead and keep doing it after being warned they deserve the banning

almost as bad as the DRCU guys and don7bl1nk complaining about servers(WHO ADVERTISE) that they have high tickets, not running stock tickets

yes they used to.....didnt bf2 have that?

BF2 did not have it as far as I know, unless it was a plugin that I never saw used.

The Battlefield ROE clearly states that weapon usage cannot be limited. EA does not enforce the rule but it's there and therefore can be used to describe the servers as corrupt. Warning people well in advance of an ROE breaking rule doesn't mean it suddenly becomes compliant with ROE.

Before you disagree too strongly, you should note well that I advocate giving this power to servers in an official capacity by allowing them to uncheck these weapons in their server setup so that people cannot even spawn with them. The current system is one where the game's very design tells a player they can do something and then the ROE violating servers say otherwise.

High ticket servers, on the other hand, are not against ROE, and so, you have a point as far those complaints go.

Also, this is old but here is a clip of EA top brass talking about microtransactions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6-u8OIJTE&feature=player_embedded
 
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dougp

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Well, actually, here's the problem. I don't think servers should be allowed to limit weapons in any way on ranked servers. HOWEVER, if servers were allowed to make it so that certain weapons cannot even be spawned with, that would be acceptable. What we have now is a situation where the game allows you to spawn with the weapons, allows you to use the weapons, and then the corrupt servers swoop in and ban you for doing it.

If DICE is going to allow the servers to do this stuff, they should give the servers the tools that allow them to prevent players from even spawning with them. But the game allowing people to do something and then players get banned for it isn't right.

Also, it has recently come to my attention that a lot of players don't like large maps because they don't like vehicle rape, since large maps have jets and tanks and rapecopters. So, I think servers should have the ability to have large maps that have transport vehicles only, ie, quadbikes, humvees, transport choppers with weak door guns, unarmed APCs.

Honestly, they need to balance vehicles, period. No way should I be able to shoot at a helicopter w/ the AA vehicle for 3-4 seconds only to have them turn their attention on me and kill me with a salvo of rockets. Helis are ridiculously overpowered, and especially if you consider that engis can heal them inside and still launch missiles as well as the health regen and amount of ways to avoid stingers.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Honestly, they need to balance vehicles, period. No way should I be able to shoot at a helicopter w/ the AA vehicle for 3-4 seconds only to have them turn their attention on me and kill me with a salvo of rockets. Helis are ridiculously overpowered, and especially if you consider that engis can heal them inside and still launch missiles as well as the health regen and amount of ways to avoid stingers.

I agree that helis are a bit overpowered but - are you talking about attack choppers? How do engineers repair from inside an attack chopper?

If you're talking about transport choppers I fully agree with engineers repairing from within being too much. I mean, you should be able to have engineers repair it but it should be one engineer, not 2 or 3.
 

Childs

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A lot of people point out that unranked status is a death sentence in most cases, because so many people won't play them without stat collection due to BF3's insanely long unlock system.

I haven't had anything to unlock since 3 days after B2K , so I don't particularly care about ranked servers anymore. I would rather play unranked than play ranked and deal with all the spamming.
 

DeadFred

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You mean like in bc2, using the m95 with red dot?
That works, but I usually just run with an 8x and quick or no-scope.

maniacalpha1-1 said:
BF2 did not have it at far as I know, unless it was a plugin that I never saw used.

The Battlefield ROE clearly states that weapon usage cannot be limited. EA does not enforce the rule but it's there and therefore can be used to describe the servers as corrupt. Warning people well in advance of an ROE breaking rule doesn't mean it suddenly becomes compliant with ROE.

High ticket servers, on the other hand, are not against ROE, and so, you have a point as far those complaints go.

Also, this is old but here is a clip of EA top brass talking about microtransactions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6-u...layer_embedded

Those ROE's are ridiculous, if I am paying for a server then I should be able to run it however I darn well please.

And the day they add microtransactions is the day I quit.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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That works, but I usually just run with an 8x and quick or no-scope.



Those ROE's are ridiculous, if I am paying for a server then I should be able to run it however I darn well please.

And the day they add microtransactions is the day I quit.

You are not paying for the ranking system though, that's paid for by the entire Battlefield community. So technically you CAN run it however you please, just not within the ranked server system.

But my compromise is to allow you to run it however you please, WITHIN the ranking system but by forcibly preventing players from even spawning with RPGs. That way, no one can be banned for RPG on infantry because they can't do it. In my idea you would go into your admin options, uncheck RPGs and whatever else, save the configuration, and then those things do not even appear as options for players to spawn with.

Naturally, that kind of thing can not be allowed except on infantry only servers, otherwise it becomes stat padding for tanks.
 

Ariae

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Honestly, they need to balance vehicles, period. No way should I be able to shoot at a helicopter w/ the AA vehicle for 3-4 seconds only to have them turn their attention on me and kill me with a salvo of rockets. Helis are ridiculously overpowered, and especially if you consider that engis can heal them inside and still launch missiles as well as the health regen and amount of ways to avoid stingers.

I've taken on all air vehicles w/ AA on an instant spawn server w/ no issues. Just go engineer and find a nice open area (behind antenna on Caspian). They almost killed me when they started coordinating their attacks. Pair of jets + havoc came at me and destroyed the AA but I got away

Best AA combo is having a support guy as driver of a tank and engineer w/ javies as a gunner. Soon as the stuff in the sky get close enough, have the support guy jump into 3rd seat and paint. You jump out and lock on w/ javies. Rinse and repeat.
 
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