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bargetrav

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Just preordered.

I can't believe because of Origin I have to pay $7 in sales tax. Steam would have made sure that was $0. What a stupid g-d decision EA.

Sorry chief, sales tax should be charged for everyone on products like this, just because we've gotten around it for years, doesn't mean we're not supposed to pay it.
 

Ackmed

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Sorry chief, sales tax should be charged for everyone on products like this, just because we've gotten around it for years, doesn't mean we're not supposed to pay it.

Just because you say it should be, doesnt mean it should be. If we were supposed to pay it, we would. Perhaps one day we will, that day is not today.

The fact is, there wouldnt have been tax on steam. And thats all he was saying.
 

scooterlibby

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Just because you say it should be, doesnt mean it should be. If we were supposed to pay it, we would. Perhaps one day we will, that day is not today.

The fact is, there wouldnt have been tax on steam. And thats all he was saying.


Given that it's the law in my state to pay sales tax on all online purchases, I'll put that in the 'supposed to pay' category, and I did indeed pay. The day where you have to pay sales tax has already come and is today. May have not gotten that way on Steam yet, but it will. Whether or not it 'should be' that way is not the same thing.


Anyways, did my deal with the devil and just pre-ordered through Origin.
 

Ackmed

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Then clarify, your state. Dont make a sweeping generalization. Not all states have resorted to charging sales tax on all online sales. Mine has not, and so far isn't close to it.
 

Zargon

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Stories of assault classes offering ammo when wounded abound. Maybe they fixed that in the alpha, but the fact remains, I should NOT have to look for a medic, support, etc and aim directly at them to request things. What if there are more than one in my squad and one is busy shooting? Etc/

I didnt even try Q

all I know is, a good 1/3rd of my team had ammo markers on them indicating they could use ammo

not just my squad

you act liek commo rose was awesome, but it really wasnt all that awesome, you still had to stop doing what you were doing to use it
 

maniacalpha1-1

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I didnt even try Q

all I know is, a good 1/3rd of my team had ammo markers on them indicating they could use ammo

not just my squad

you act liek commo rose was awesome, but it really wasnt all that awesome, you still had to stop doing what you were doing to use it

You had to stop shooting for long enough to hit Q and move your mouse 1 over to the right option. About a half second max, faster once you get used to to it. Whereas failed social button requires you to stop, turn and look at a medic, which you have to find first. The social button takes a lot longer and requires you to turn your back to the enemy.

And it's not just about Ammo and Medic requests. Everything the BF2 commo rose permitted to be said is important.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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You had to stop shooting for long enough to hit Q and move your mouse 1 over to the right option. About a half second max, faster once you get used to to it. Whereas failed social button requires you to stop, turn and look at a medic, which you have to find first. The social button takes a lot longer and requires you to turn your back to the enemy.

And it's not just about Ammo and Medic requests. Everything the BF2 commo rose permitted to be said is important.

In CS 1.6 you could bind keys to send out radio messages. Would be a nice feature. They really need a better key binding system for this game in general. It's not very flexible. They also need a quick switch. Maybe a way to lock your gun also. There's been way too many times where I'm trying to disable a plant in rush and instead I'll just be picking up guns that are on the ground.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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In CS 1.6 you could bind keys to send out radio messages. Would be a nice feature. They really need a better key binding system for this game in general. It's not very flexible. They also need a quick switch. Maybe a way to lock your gun also. There's been way too many times where I'm trying to disable a plant in rush and instead I'll just be picking up guns that are on the ground.

Actually I think they are fixing that somehow - changing the buttons that do that, maybe, so there's no conflict.
 

GoodRevrnd

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I didn't figure it out in alpha, so does anyone know how vehicle disable works? Do they just autodisable after they cross a certain hp threshold or do you need to do damage to particular hitboxes?
 

GoodRevrnd

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http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/2569/article/battlefield-3-point-system-revealed/
The scoring system for DICE's Battlefield 3 has been unveiled. The complete Battlefield 3 points system guide shows how many points players will score for a variety of kills, assists, objectives and more.

The points system for several parts of the Electronic Arts-published shooter are as follows:

Kill points:

Kill enemy: 100 points
Knife kill: 300 points
Comeback kill: 60 points
Headshot bonus: +10 points
Eliminate enemy squad: +10 points
Savior bonus: +20 points
Avenger bonus: +10 points
Destroy vehicle: 200 points
Disable vehicle: 100 points

Assist points:

Kill assist: from 10 to 60 points
Spot assist: 10 points
Squad kill assist: from 10 to 60 points
Squad spot assist: 20 points
Suppressive fire assist: +10 points
Squad spawn on you: +10 points

M-COM objective points:

M-COM arm: 200 points
M-COM disarm: 200 points
M-COM destroy: 200 points
M-COM attack bonus: +20 points
M-COM defend bonus: +20 points

Support:

Revive teammate: 100 points
Squad revive: +20 points
Squad Spawn on you: 10 points
Repair: +20 points
Squad repair: +30 points

Battlefield 3 is currently scheduled for a release on October 25th, 2011 in North American retailers. The game will release in European territories three days later, which is the 28th for those who can't count.

No points for heal and ammo? Blech.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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I didn't figure it out in alpha, so does anyone know how vehicle disable works? Do they just autodisable after they cross a certain hp threshold or do you need to do damage to particular hitboxes?

I was told it happened at a preset %. Higher than 40...but this was on EA UK forums and they wouldn't say more...perhaps someone here will. Also, they said the AT rocket was doing about 17% damage per hit to the LAV.
 

GoodRevrnd

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I was told it happened at a preset %. Higher than 40...but this was on EA UK forums and they wouldn't say more...perhaps someone here will. Also, they said the AT rocket was doing about 17% damage per hit to the LAV.

That sounds a little low, maybe if all hits were dead front? I'm pretty sure I took a few out with 3 direct to the back (2nd causing disable).
 

Zargon

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You had to stop shooting for long enough to hit Q and move your mouse 1 over to the right option. About a half second max, faster once you get used to to it. Whereas failed social button requires you to stop, turn and look at a medic, which you have to find first. The social button takes a lot longer and requires you to turn your back to the enemy.

And it's not just about Ammo and Medic requests. Everything the BF2 commo rose permitted to be said is important.

'lot longer' is a stretch thanks to the bright red beret's

didnt an icon appear on the people you were looking at to notify you what was said if you q'd them?

the new system just plain puts them on them all the time as far as I cna tell, which is better IMO. No idea how to actually ASK for stuff tho, I didnt get that much time to test the alpha, hopefully I get a beta invite too and can play more
 

Miklebud

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In CS 1.6 you could bind keys to send out radio messages. Would be a nice feature. They really need a better key binding system for this game in general. It's not very flexible. They also need a quick switch. Maybe a way to lock your gun also. There's been way too many times where I'm trying to disable a plant in rush and instead I'll just be picking up guns that are on the ground.

They fixed that in the Alpha. To pick up a new kit, you now press and hold R. But you use E to defuse/plant objectives.
 

tvdang7

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Does anyone feel like the way the classes are kind of bc2 style and not fun? i want the way bf2 was where the assault had the c4 NOT the sniper. Also why would the assault be the medic and the medic class has been taking out completely..........this game is basically bc2 with planes.
 

realjetavenger

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Eliminate enemy squad: +10 points


I wonder if this means there is only 1 person left on a squad (where the rest are still waiting to spawn) or if it means you take out an entire squad on your own? If it is the latter, that doesn't look like a whole lotta points for single handedly taking out an entire squad.

10 pts for ammo, 20 for insqual ammo, assuming same for heal


Maybe I'm mis-remembering but I do not recall getting points for laying down med packs and healing either team or squad mates. And you could see how their health bar (or whatever it is called) went from maybe a third to half full to being full after standing near your health pack. However, I do recall getting points for reviving players.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Does anyone feel like the way the classes are kind of bc2 style and not fun? i want the way bf2 was where the assault had the c4 NOT the sniper. Also why would the assault be the medic and the medic class has been taking out completely..........this game is basically bc2 with planes.

the classes are just fine except for the snipers getting C4. RECON can get the c4, that's not a problem. By that I mean, snipers should have to pick the all-class unlocks in order to choose C4. Like assaults did in BC2.
 

SunnyD

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EA finally says WHY it won't be on steam:

EA has claimed that Steam has added a "set of restrictive terms of service" that limits how the company can provide patches and other content. "No other download service has adopted these practices," EA explained. Reading between the lines, it sounds like EA wants to offer patches as well as for-pay content directly to gamers through the games itself. Valve seems to have rules in place that state such content must be sent through the Steam servers.
 

VulgarDisplay

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Aren't there plenty of other companies with similar games, similar patching requirements, etc including multiplayer shooters, that still use steam?

I wonder if the real problem is that they don't want DLC to be subject to steam sales, or something like that.

Steam wants part of the revenue generated by DLC. EA does not want them to have that money. Either way Steam is losing out on a huge amount of cash by not catering to EA's demands for BF3.
 

Zargon

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Steam wants part of the revenue generated by DLC. EA does not want them to have that money. Either way Steam is losing out on a huge amount of cash by not catering to EA's demands for BF3.

they are probably afraid to cave to EA and end up doing the same thing to Ubi/activision/etc and losing tons of revenue for doing not much of anything

I like steam, for the most part, but god valve tries hard to ruin it all the time
 

SunnyD

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they are probably afraid to cave to EA and end up doing the same thing to Ubi/activision/etc and losing tons of revenue for doing not much of anything

I like steam, for the most part, but god valve tries hard to ruin it all the time

I think you used "steam" where you meant "EA" there...
 
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