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DeadFred

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Jun 4, 2011
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I was on your squad during that one time... we were utterly destroyed - we couldn't even get off the aircraft carrier and you were snipping away on the decks...
Off the carrier decks! Wowzers!

Has anyone played a match in this game where the teams were even? Ever? Just one match where one team doesn't completely dominate would be really nice.
Ive been in plenty of close games, some really close, like 1 point difference close! But more often than not one team gets rolled.

Don't be a point whore, going after achievements. Who cares about them. Play the game, and have fun. Don't let them dictate how you play, or what you do. In short, don't be sheep.
Cant help it, I like to collect stuff. Im a ribbon, medal, service star hoarder.
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
14,001
4
76
I have this strange issue where I'll enter a game (fresh session), and the movements are so slow. It feels like lag almost except my pings are low (50). It feels like someone turned all my mouse speeds down but nope, they are high. The only fix is to restart Windows. I can't even just exit BF3 and come back. It absolutely requires a reboot.

And this is not after a long session of many games. I can boot my computer in the morning, do nothing all day with it, then join a game at night and it'll be sluggish. The rest of Windows is fine.

i5-2500K @ 3.3
16 GB
5770
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
9,214
78
91
I think I've decided that I just don't have enough fun playing this game to offset all the frustration. I've never met a game like this before. The amount of rage it induces is not healthy.
 

llee

Golden Member
Oct 27, 2009
1,152
0
76
I think I've decided that I just don't have enough fun playing this game to offset all the frustration. I've never met a game like this before. The amount of rage it induces is not healthy.

Destiny's right. Play with friends/platoon members and you'll have a much better time.
 

Destiny

Platinum Member
Jul 6, 2010
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alt-tabbing seems to make things worse actually. It seems that the more I do it, the more frequently I get fps drops.

Took a screenshot of my settings:
http://i.imgur.com/aTJ8K.png

When the fps drops, it's usually for only a second or two, but it happens frequently enough to get me killed mid-fight quite a bit.

edit: weird, I thought I had changed a few of those settings, they must have reset.

I get that sometimes too, and had to alt-tab to get out and get back in... sometimes I just go to task manager and end some tasks - dunno which of your software is downloading in the background sometimes like your virus scanner updating or windows downloading and updating. D:
 

Canbacon

Senior member
Dec 24, 2007
794
4
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alt-tabbing seems to make things worse actually. It seems that the more I do it, the more frequently I get fps drops.

Took a screenshot of my settings:
http://i.imgur.com/aTJ8K.png

When the fps drops, it's usually for only a second or two, but it happens frequently enough to get me killed mid-fight quite a bit.

edit: weird, I thought I had changed a few of those settings, they must have reset.

I think it is more of the system RAM and the CPU. My old setup was a Q9450 @ 3.6, 8GB RAM and a GTX 480. I would have periodic mouse freezing and frame skipping. It made it super frustrating especially when I moved from a 1920x1200 24" to 2560x1440 resolution 27" display. The only way I stopped it was to lower the resolution back to 1920x1080 (on my 27" monitor) and setting some of the graphic settings down to medium. I eventually migrated to a new system and everything went away, but overall I think the 1st/2nd gen Core 2 Duo/Quad chips are finally showing their age.

See if you can push some of the graphics settings down to medium. Hopefully that will help.
 

chimaxi83

Diamond Member
May 18, 2003
5,649
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alt-tabbing seems to make things worse actually. It seems that the more I do it, the more frequently I get fps drops.

Took a screenshot of my settings:
http://i.imgur.com/aTJ8K.png

When the fps drops, it's usually for only a second or two, but it happens frequently enough to get me killed mid-fight quite a bit.

edit: weird, I thought I had changed a few of those settings, they must have reset.

Why is your refresh rate 59.95? Can you monitor your graphics card temperature and memory usage using Afterburner? Might be an overheating issue, if it's not some kind of VRAM issue. Maybe the heatsink/fan on the card just needs to be cleaned out or something.
 

DanTMWTMP

Lifer
Oct 7, 2001
15,907
13
81
goddamn it I can't connect anymore. The game is stuck on "connecting" in battlelog forever. wtf is this? Non of the solutions I've found online worked (repair, reinstalling the game, reinstall network drivers). fuck!
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
11,450
7
81
Playing with friend listers is what kept me playing for as long as I did. Even without voip, just being able to squad up with guys who werent douches helps so much, even if its just one guy.
 

moonbogg

Lifer
Jan 8, 2011
10,637
3,095
136
Just had a few sick games with at least one other ATOTer. Good fun playing with people you know.
 

Destiny

Platinum Member
Jul 6, 2010
2,309
1
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Some Armored Kill servers are showing... unfortunately the map does not load when you try to join them...:'(
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
12,240
2
76
Just had a few sick games with at least one other ATOTer. Good fun playing with people you know.

sent you a friend request yesterday, zargon_ap

goddamn it I can't connect anymore. The game is stuck on "connecting" in battlelog forever. wtf is this? Non of the solutions I've found online worked (repair, reinstalling the game, reinstall network drivers). fuck!


restart origin, I would get stuck on connecting, and logging in, and when I went to origin it was messed up

hopefully thats all it is
 

QuantumPion

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2005
6,010
1
76
I think I've decided that I just don't have enough fun playing this game to offset all the frustration. I've never met a game like this before. The amount of rage it induces is not healthy.

Obviously you never played counter-strike, lol. Imagine the frustration of BF3, but every time you die you have to wait ~3-5 minutes before respawning.

Oh yeah, and if you die, instead of respawning with your preferred weapon e.g. an M4, you have to use just a .44 magnum and hope you manage to kill someone to get a better weapon because your team loses every round and you have no money.
 

Canbacon

Senior member
Dec 24, 2007
794
4
91
Obviously you never played counter-strike, lol. Imagine the frustration of BF3, but every time you die you have to wait ~3-5 minutes before respawning.

Oh yeah, and if you die, instead of respawning with your preferred weapon e.g. an M4, you have to use just a .44 magnum and hope you manage to kill someone to get a better weapon because your team loses every round and you have no money.

For some strange reason in CS, I was always better at going only DE than with the M4 or the AK.
 

QuantumPion

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2005
6,010
1
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For some strange reason in CS, I was always better at going only DE than with the M4 or the AK.

Yeah that's because when you don't spend all your money on good items you are more aggressive and gung-ho. No one wants to charge in the tunnel first with their shiny new M4 that they saved up 3 rounds of losses for
 

Termie

Diamond Member
Aug 17, 2005
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I think I've decided that I just don't have enough fun playing this game to offset all the frustration. I've never met a game like this before. The amount of rage it induces is not healthy.

I am totally with you on this. I played BF3 religiously (i.e. almost nightly) until Close Quarters came out (which I didn't buy). I was just getting too worked up with this game. No fault of the game itself (well, except for obvious balance issues) - the competitive nature of it is mostly what got me raging. Made it hard to go to sleep.

I'm debating whether I want to jump on Armored Kill. On the one hand, it looks great. On the other hand, I've truly been enjoying playing a number of high quality single-player games. Recently finished Batman:AC (main missions), am half way through Deus Ex, and just started Max Payne. All excellent games, by the way, and entertaining for very different reasons than BF3. And much more relaxing/cathartic after a long day of work.

Just my 2 cents. I still think BF3 is an amazing game and technological tour de force.
 

QuantumPion

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2005
6,010
1
76
Oh yeah FYI the MP5K is good now. I'm not sure what exactly they tweaked but it seems much more accurate (maybe just because increased damage allows effective use of of burst mode) and drops people stupid fast. I was winning gun fights at 50+ yards using burst against people with M16's on Metro TDM.
 

Canbacon

Senior member
Dec 24, 2007
794
4
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I am totally with you on this. I played BF3 religiously (i.e. almost nightly) until Close Quarters came out (which I didn't buy). I was just getting too worked up with this game. No fault of the game itself (well, except for obvious balance issues) - the competitive nature of it is mostly what got me raging. Made it hard to go to sleep.

I'm debating whether I want to jump on Armored Kill. On the one hand, it looks great. On the other hand, I've truly been enjoying playing a number of high quality single-player games. Recently finished Batman:AC (main missions), am half way through Deus Ex, and just started Max Payne. All excellent games, by the way, and entertaining for very different reasons than BF3. And much more relaxing/cathartic after a long day of work.

Just my 2 cents. I still think BF3 is an amazing game and technological tour de force.

Personally, if you have other games to play, take a break. Come back after the bugs with Armoured Kill get ironed out (if they ever do ) It's always good to try new things and then come back with a renewed spirit and as you said singleplayer is definitely better to unwind with than multiplayer.
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
12,240
2
76
I think it is more of the system RAM and the CPU. My old setup was a Q9450 @ 3.6, 8GB RAM and a GTX 480. I would have periodic mouse freezing and frame skipping. It made it super frustrating especially when I moved from a 1920x1200 24" to 2560x1440 resolution 27" display. The only way I stopped it was to lower the resolution back to 1920x1080 (on my 27" monitor) and setting some of the graphic settings down to medium. I eventually migrated to a new system and everything went away, but overall I think the 1st/2nd gen Core 2 Duo/Quad chips are finally showing their age.

See if you can push some of the graphics settings down to medium. Hopefully that will help.

joined the korean apple clone club with SLU and I eh?(and destiny was using one too...)
 

Canbacon

Senior member
Dec 24, 2007
794
4
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Yeah that's because when you don't spend all your money on good items you are more aggressive and gung-ho. No one wants to charge in the tunnel first with their shiny new M4 that they saved up 3 rounds of losses for

Haha, true. I do love disrupting the normal "strats" that most clans use by doing odd rushes.

joined the korean apple clone club with SLU and I eh?(and destiny was using one too...)

Nope, I got a really good deal through work for a Dell 2711 that put it in the same price range as the Korean panels. Though, I should have spent the extra 100 for the 3011. I miss having a 16:10 ratio.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
20,736
1,377
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Off the carrier decks! Wowzers!

that makes me think of the time those specops guys sniped a bunch of somali pirates SIMULTANEOUSLY from a floating deck to rescue hostages. Fucking incredible. And yes that really happened.
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
12,240
2
76
Haha, true. I do love disrupting the normal "strats" that most clans use by doing odd rushes.



Nope, I got a really good deal through work for a Dell 2711 that put it in the same price range as the Korean panels. Though, I should have spent the extra 100 for the 3011. I miss having a 16:10 ratio.

Extra HUNDRED?! Yes you should have

Tapatalking on my pos thunderbolt. Sorry for teh typos!
 

GullyFoyle

Diamond Member
Dec 13, 2000
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Eurogamer.net - Battlefield 3: Armored Kill Review

By Dan Whitehead Published 6 September, 2012

Supersize me.

Version tested: PlayStation 3

This, the third in Battlefield 3's conveyor belt of downloadable content, finds DICE showboating in style. If the developer were a rock star, it'd have its foot on the monitor right now, as the audience held their lighters aloft. Back to Karkand's updated fan favourite maps was the obligatory run through the classic hits from yesteryear while Close Quarters, with its blatant COD tempo, was a punchy, punky cover version thrown into the mix to shake things up. To stretch the stadium rock metaphor to breaking point, Armored Kill is the epic ten-minute blow out, all guitar and drum solos, a ballad of fire and smoke.
This is Battlefield at its biggest. Quite literally, as one of the four new maps - the sprawling Bandar Desert - takes the crown as the largest Battlefield map ever. Over twice the size of Caspian Border, it occupies five square kilometres of digital real estate, taking in a crescent bay front with residential buildings and construction sites dotted around its circumference. Further inland there's an artillery base for the taking, surrounded by an expanse of open desert and rolling dunes and with a highway slicing through the centre. It's all hemmed in with rocky outcrops and cliffs that direct the action down and into this vast crucible of mayhem.


All the new maps can be used in the existing game modes, as well as Tank Superiority.

That's not to say the other maps are slouching. As the name suggests, Alborz Mountains, set in Northern Iran, has a ruddy great big mountain in the middle. The first snow map in the game, this has acres of forestry to provide cover and a large frozen lake for those bold enough to venture into open ground.
Death Valley also earns its name. Set at night in and around a ruined highway overpass, it balances out lots of higher ground - not least on the exposed but strategically useful road bridge - with a rabbit warren of containers, pillars and structures at ground level. Dash into action against an organised team here and you'll be pinned from all sides, trapped in a killing box of your own stupidity.
Finally, there's Armored Shield, the least interesting of the bunch. Set in the Russian countryside, it's mostly fields and dirt tracks with a few pylons scattered around as cover for the hapless soldiers who find themselves traversing it on foot.
And you really don't want to be a pedestrian on these maps. The addition of quad bikes cuts down on wandering time, but quite apart from the sheer scale of the larger maps making it unfeasible to jog to the nearest hot spot in anything less than five minutes, your lifespan is directly related to how much steel you can put between yourself and everyone else. Armored Kill is more than a name. It's an order.
Selling this concept is new game mode, Tank Superiority. The title doesn't leave much room for ambiguity, and it's as simple in execution as it sounds. Two teams, each with access to plenty of tanks, battle it out for control of the sole capture point. The maps are constricted to accommodate this more focussed objective, but that doesn't stop it being one of the most ferocious ways to play an already fearsome game.


The mountain in the centre of the Alborz map is Damavand Peak, which you should already be familiar with.

It makes sense for DICE to spotlight the tanks, especially since it was that dazzling footage of the single player tank section, Thunder Run, that really established the game as a contender for Call of Duty's throne last year. Not coincidentally, Thunder Run takes place in the same Bandar Desert that now expands Battlefield even further than before. The challenge to COD supremacy may not have been won in terms of sales, but Armored Kill sees Battlefield drawing its line in the sand, confident that no other shooter franchise can pull off the scale on display here.
There are no new tanks here, but there are new vehicles that help provide balance to the shift in emphasis away from infantry combat. Both US and Russian forces get their own anti-tank options - the M1128 for the Americans, or the 2S25 Sprut for Russians - both of which are faster and more agile than their lumbering prey, but less protected. Tactical use of the terrain means they can easily stop the heavier vehicles in their tracks.
Mobile artillery also enters the fray, an option that players in this early access stage for PS3 Premium subscribers are still getting used to. Successful use of these long range bombardment weapons requires both a good understanding of the maps with regard to range and elevation and also a canny touch when it comes to aiming. Right now, most people seem to jump into the gunners seat, loose off a few rounds into the sky, then get bored and go and find a tank for more immediate boom-bang-a-bang action. The player who masters these vehicles, however, will be able to dominate almost any match.
Also dominating is the AC-130 Gunship. Rather unusually, you don't get to actually fly this beast of the air. Instead, you gain access to it by capturing its base. The plane itself circles the map on autopilot, following a preset route. Players can spawn into its gunner seats and absolutely lay waste to whatever is below, as well as operating powerful anti-air turrets to fend off attacking choppers and jets.
You can also use the AC-130 as a persistent spawn point for paratroopers, making it both versatile and a powerful strategic tool. The downside is that it's slow and poorly armoured, and it's predictable movement pattern and unmissable size make it an easy target. Even so, between the gunship and the existing helicopters and jets, the majority of the Battlefield action on Armored Kill maps seems to be in the sky.


Perhaps in a nod to Valve's Gnome Chompski, there's a hidden gnome on the Alborz Mountains map.

Get all these elements working in harmony on a Conquest or Rush game and you've got the closest thing to what long serving fans would call the classic Battlefield experience. This is true warfare, not just carefully contained skirmishes, and lone wolf run-and-gunners will get creamed with hilarious regularity. At this size, the maps simply don't lend themselves to the tactics that lead to success in typical deathmatches, and nor are there any obvious spots designed to aid the player.
These aren't maps with pre-defined "bits" to use. These are actual maps, in the Ordnance Survey sense of the word, and it's up to you to make the terrain work to your advantage. Master the dips and peaks of the Bandar Desert dunes to hide a tank or to gain an advantage. Decide in the moment if charging through the trees surrounding the Alborz Mountains is a better bet than taking it slowly around the rocky passages above. What makes sense in one match might be suicide in the next. It's thrillingly organic, and devoid of the sort of generic map design that might as well put up neon signs saying "great sniper spot here!"
The downside, for console players, is that these maps are pushing up against the limits of the maximum lobby size. With up to five capture points, DICE does its usual great job of subtly directing the flow of the match into interesting spaces, but 24 players are easily lost on maps this size. It's also not much fun to wait around at a spawn point for a vehicle, drive all the way to an objective only to be wiped out by an AC-130 and have to do it all over again. PC players, naturally, will have no such concerns - 64 players and seven capture points will fill these maps far more effectively.
That minor annoyance aside, there's not much criticism you can throw at Armored Kill that won't just bounce off its battle-hardened exterior. The maps show DICE at its best, crafting natural looking environments that throw up thrilling possibilities on the fly, and the new vehicles have been shrewdly chosen and balanced to enhance the gameplay while still offering the thrill of the new. For Battlefield fans, this is an essential expansion.

8/10
 
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