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DeadFred

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Last night I shot a guy point blank about 3 times in the best, once in the neck, and he then kills me. It is so enraging I could kill something each time it happens...grrrr....

Chuck
Thats why I prefer hardcore, the only time I prefer normal servers is for flying. Those orange triangles are friggin sweet to shoot at from 1,000m up.
 

destrekor

Lifer
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Yeah thats BS too, because I googled it before posting and google LIED to me. So, i'm still legit, right?

You forced me to google it before I made my post as well, making sure I wasn't completely ignorant of a modern firearm in service today.

And yes, I was seeing something popping up about it, but after reading one of the links it turns out someone somewhere else made a typo and that drew some ire and enough attention to get it on page one of a google search.
 
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destrekor

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So I went and "pre-ordered" MOHW last night, as before entering BF3 I was reminded of MOHW, the 50% off deal (which lasts for another month, iirc), and the bonus pre-order exclusives (which ended last night). So I got the digital deluxe version for $37 after tax.

I hope I don't hate myself for that impulse purchase, and BF3 will *hopefully* remain the main attraction for my play time, but I'll have to give MOHW some time. If it's awful to me, at least it wasn't a full $60+ wasted.
 

chucky2

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Thats why I prefer hardcore, the only time I prefer normal servers is for flying. Those orange triangles are friggin sweet to shoot at from 1,000m up.

I've been playing Engineer and doing a good deal better on my 1vs1's, even on Normal mode. But what you say is true, I think I'm going to prefer playing on Hardcode servers from now on because it seems so much more realistic. Maybe I'll have to try going back to Support and seeing how I fare with the LMG's in 1vs1 scenarios.

Chuck
 

DeadFred

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If youve read the MOH Warfighter thread you have seen that my Origin account was hacked. I have everything back now except for my friends list, Ive sent out a bunch of requests but if I left out anyone add me!!!! DeathDealer7177
 

Durvelle27

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If youve read the MOH Warfighter thread you have seen that my Origin account was hacked. I have everything back now except for my friends list, Ive sent out a bunch of requests but if I left out anyone add me!!!! DeathDealer7177

wow that sucks the same thing happened to me 3 days ago and i was pissed but i'm about to send you a request
 

moonbogg

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I'd say NO but you would just 1100m headshot me with the M98 next time you see me

so YES, you are still legit


Just make sure you hold still for a second or two. Those 1000m+ shots are a bit dodgy (yep, i'm a yank and I said "dodgy"). BTW, whats your BF3 name?

Also, regarding Origin hacks...really? That straight sucks. What are the signs of a hacked account?
 

Zargon

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I got an email before about a requested password change, and went ahead and changed my password to something much more difficult fo the time being

my origin id is zargon_ap
 

llee

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Strange. The same thing happened to me last week when my Origin password changed. Luckily, I was able to reset it via my email address.
 

Paul98

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If they would simply fix the up close insanity on the LMG's they have now I'd be happy. I'm actually back to the M249 to finish unlocking the last two things (well, one thing now), and I can see that it's slightly better close up than the M240 or M60.

Last night I shot a guy point blank about 3 times in the chest, once in the neck, and he then kills me. It is so enraging I could kill something each time it happens...grrrr....

Chuck

Well depending on the situation, like if he is shooting you while you are shooting him. Many times it's ether you are suppressed and the bullets don't go where they should, or that you are dead when you started firing but on your computer you just don't know it yet.

Then there are the times where point blank bullets just plain don't hit the person for no real reason.
 

Paul98

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I am not a big fan of hardcore, I just find it too easy. You barely have to worry about how you fire your gun or even put much effort into aiming as the person you shoot at dies so quickly. To make it more fun I usually end up running around with the 1911 all or a good portion of the round. I do enjoy playing a few rounds of hardcore every now and then, but not my game of choice.
 

destrekor

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I am not a big fan of hardcore, I just find it too easy. You barely have to worry about how you fire your gun or even put much effort into aiming as the person you shoot at dies so quickly. To make it more fun I usually end up running around with the 1911 all or a good portion of the round. I do enjoy playing a few rounds of hardcore every now and then, but not my game of choice.

It's all about instant precision and reaction times.

Regular mode is like that to a large degree, but it's more about consistent precision more than anything else. If your first shots are gravy but fourth, fifth shots see you missing due to a bad reaction to recoil, you are probably done if the other guy is more consistent (even if you got a few rounds on him first).

Personally, while that is a good challenge in of itself, I dislike the ridiculous of requiring someone to consistently put that many rounds down range onto the same target.

Firefights against well-trained troops requiring skilled aiming, but more importantly, if both are skilled, having the first rounds strike the target before return volleys come your direction.

If skill is equal, it's purely about reaction time and consistency for a few rounds, or controlling recoil through an auto burst (start low, ride recoil up the target is a good burst method). But you can still pull off a kill if you react late (and they fire first) if you have better aim, or more importantly, are able to place rounds accurately (like on the head).

Plus, hardcore has the added bonus of removing icons. Granted, it kind of comes down to "don't aim at the ones with blue triangles, but aim at the ones with no triangles" - but I imagine a few servers out there even remove the friendly IDs (or... not?). There still a few oddities with that, of course.
Plus, unless you don't care about teamkilling, you have to be more careful when aiming into a group of soldiers. A friendly might be mixed up in there, or was making the move there - or stray fire at an enemy in the middle of an area is heading toward a friendly perched across the way. And the issue of "blind grenade tosses" and throwing mortars/rockets/other explosives to any particular point on the map and having a friendly wind up eating them. Oh, and of course the fun retards who run in front of you, while you are actively firing.

I had one person do exactly that, then "!punish" me as a result of the TK. I was like "dude, you're retarded". I rarely punish TKs because most often I know it was either entirely my mistake or a gamble on all our parts.


In short - I like it because it's slightly more "realistic" but I also don't strive for 100% authentic hardcore reality in FPS games. Very close is good, but authentic just gets tedious.

In some aspects of BF play, it is more entertaining and both more/less challenging to play in regular mode. I prefer regular for vehicular combat more often than not. Sure, being restricted to in-vehicle view only (hardcore) is a nice touch of realism (3rd person vision would be just grand, though), but with the chaos of 64p servers and friendly/enemy mixed in everywhere in a mostly unorganized chaos, it actually makes it more challenging than it even ought to be. Third person view gives you a good chance to view the randomness occurring all around you, and react/plan accordingly.

And it's also extremely awesome to see the 3D Spotting triangles way off in the distance or mixed in through the streets when in vehicles.
 

Zargon

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I am not a big fan of hardcore, I just find it too easy. You barely have to worry about how you fire your gun or even put much effort into aiming as the person you shoot at dies so quickly. To make it more fun I usually end up running around with the 1911 all or a good portion of the round. I do enjoy playing a few rounds of hardcore every now and then, but not my game of choice.

easy? try rush on hardcore....as an attacker
 

Phoenix86

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HC is easy? In a good HC game I go 2-2.5:1, on normal a good game is 3-4:1

You don't see people going 40-3 in HC.

I prefer HC because it's far more realistic but not so much I want to tear my hair out.
 

JTsyo

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1 hit body kill with sniper rifles and no kill cam? Don't think that would be my cup of tea.
 

Paul98

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HC is easy? In a good HC game I go 2-2.5:1, on normal a good game is 3-4:1

You don't see people going 40-3 in HC.

I prefer HC because it's far more realistic but not so much I want to tear my hair out.

Seems to me that that means HC is easier. Scores are more even because it takes less skill to kill someone so crappy players can get kills they normally wouldn't, along with team kills.
 

darkewaffle

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One hit sniper kills is the only thing that I don't like about HC; I get that the guns are powerful and it matches the power scaling of all weapons in HC. I just wish there was some sort of counterbalance to it so that it didn't give snipers inordinately more benefit than the other classes. Each other class is fairly equally affected by the trade off of "my guns deal more damage, their guns deal more damage to me" except for snipers who are more often protected by simply "their guns don't hit me" so the increased gun damage is, in my opinion, less harmful to them.

All in all I like the pace of the action far more and I like friendly fire and I love no spotting/kill cam (and I hope more servers disable the mini map too lol), I just don't like that (of all things) it makes the job of sniping arguably that much easier. Maybe the trade off is that snipers rarely win games though
 

moonbogg

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Hmm...maybe I should give HC more of a chance. As a sniper, I like the orange markers and the ability to hit Q, but maybe i'll give it another try. Played it a couple times and didn't really like it, but i'll try again.
 

DeadFred

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Im confused about the spotting in HC since the last patch. Before when you spotted an enemy he would appear on your teams radar as an orange triangle. Now servers owners have the ability to remove the HUD altogether if they choose. On the HC servers Ive played on since the patch that still use the HUD, its different than before. I can spot enemies but they dont show up on my HUD but I still get spot bonus points. I assume the orange triangles that I do see are enemies spotted by my teammates.
 

maevinj

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Im confused about the spotting in HC since the last patch. Before when you spotted an enemy he would appear on your teams radar as an orange triangle. Now servers owners have the ability to remove the HUD altogether if they choose. On the HC servers Ive played on since the patch that still use the HUD, its different than before. I can spot enemies but they dont show up on my HUD but I still get spot bonus points. I assume the orange triangles that I do see are enemies spotted by my teammates.

You get the spot bonus because you spotted them and a teammate just happened to kill them relatively close to when you spotted them.
 
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