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pontifex

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unbelievable....sorry man - I'd be so pissed

I know it's just a game but i am pissed at this BS.

I've contacted gamefly about a refund. If they refuse then I am going to go through my credit card company. I'm sick of this BS. There's no reason for this.

I'm glad it's a not a subscription based game.

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well that was quick. got an automated email from gamefly saying they can't help once the game has been activated. contact the publisher

contacted my credit card company to make a dispute and they are going t put the charge on hold and contact gamefly to get a refund.


LMAO - arenanet just unlocks my account and resets my password again. they completely ignore my requests for further help.
 
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JamesV

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Fun runs in Arah tonight. The last patch apparently changed things, but once we figured out we couldn't sneak past something, we just destroyed it.

The jump puzzle of course caused much aggravation, but that's to be expected... almost like they left that shortcut in as a reward for you being able to do the jump.

Hakuryu
 

Anubis

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only 5 more levels !!

also anyone got a link to a current cooking guide? all the ones i coudl fine were based off mats you can no longer purchase from karma vendors
 

diesbudt

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So for the record. Watching 2 bosses fight each other to the death in Ascalon Catacomb's dungeon was amusing.

Which dungeon (if any) does the marks of Zhaitan. I need 500?

Also if anyone finds an unused lv 76+ gold staff, I would love it. (I need 4 for the mystic forge to try for the exotic)
 

Grooveriding

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Game is amazing for the levelling experience, far better than WoW, farrrrr better. The world is awesome and the art is really amazing as well. The WvW is pretty fun for a while, while the spvp is rather bland imo. You really need CTF mode for good strategy to be developed, rather than just capture/hold points.

Where the game falls flat is character progression at max level. There is just nothing unless you want to grind heavily for cosmetic upgrades. I understand this will work for some players, but it's less than ideal for many. They need to design in some sort of character progression tied into WvW. I would suggest raids as well, but unless you can somehow design raids that are as well done as they are in WoW, it's not worth doing it.

I don't play WoW any more as the game is just awful in its current state. The only thing that game has left is raiding. The raiding in WoW is really well designed if you are doing new unnerfed content. What they do also have though, are many systems to keep players interested at max level. GW2 needs more of that.

Very solid foundation, but it needs more character progression. I played WoW at launch and it was equally as impressive, but there was more to do once you hit 60. You had UBRS/Strat/Scholo to grind for your dungeon set to progress your character forward for MC/Onyxia, as well as World PvP. World PvP was also more fun than WvW is, since it was random and different, as well as being more challenging rather than meeting a mass zerg in WvW and hoping you don't get the wrong end of a zerg down. GW2 just has grinding for tokens for cosmetic items. There needs to be genuine progression imo, cosmetic fluff is not progression.

Hopefully they have some ideas.
 
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diesbudt

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Game is amazing for the levelling experience, far better than WoW, farrrrr better. The world is awesome and the art is really amazing as well. The WvW is pretty fun for a while, while the spvp is rather bland imo. You really need CTF mode for good strategy to be developed, rather than just capture/hold points.

Where the game falls flat is character progression at max level. There is just nothing unless you want to grind heavily for cosmetic upgrades. I understand this will work for some players, but it's less than ideal for many. They need to design in some sort of character progression tied into WvW. I would suggest raids as well, but unless you can somehow design raids that are as well done as they are in WoW, it's not worth doing it.

I don't play WoW any more as the game is just awful in its current state. The only thing that game has left is raiding. The raiding in WoW is really well designed if you are doing new unnerfed content. What they do also have though, are many systems to keep players interested at max level. GW2 needs more of that.

Very solid foundation, but it needs more character progression. I played WoW at launch and it was equally as impressive, but there was more to do once you hit 60. You had UBRS/Strat/Scholo to grind for your dungeon set to progress your character forward for MC/Onyxia, as well as World PvP. World PvP was also more fun than WvW is, since it was random and different, as well as being more challenging rather than meeting a mass zerg in WvW and hoping you don't get the wrong end of a zerg down. GW2 just had grinding for tokens for cosmetic items. There needs to be genuine progression imo, cosmetic fluff is not progression.

Hopefully they have some ideas.

Well unless you have full exotic gear, there is still character progression to go. (Not just cosmetic upgrades, but best gear.)

But that is just a version of end game they wanted. Sure they are probably planning more things, though I don't know about raids. Many people gotten tired of needing so many people on at a specific time, like a job. Progression also is a misleading term. If you have to make yoru character stronger to have fun, there will always be a stopping point. Every game has that moment in which you cannot progress anymore. (GW2 does hit this point faster than some games) However if you just enjoy playing a game for a variety of reasons, I feel GW2 fits that nicely endgame. I enjoy the combat way more than WoW/Rift etc. I am never standing still just spamming 3-4 attacks. I am switching between 10-15 skills on my weapon (elementalist) along with always moving, dodging, or getting eaten alive by those damn jumping lizards in AC explore mode....

After that, there is always the legendary weapon to farm for. heh...heh...heh...

I love tell people the requirements for the legendary weapon. Their eyes go O_O.

Also just in case no one knows.

White < blue (uncommon) < green (between uncommon and rare) < Yellow (rare) < Orange (exotic) < Purple (legendary)
 
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Grooveriding

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Well unless you have full exotic gear, there is still character progression to go. (Not just cosmetic upgrades, but best gear.)

After that, there is always the legendary weapon to farm for. heh...heh...heh...

I love tell people the requirements for the legendary weapon. Their eyes go O_O.

I have full exotic armour and all available weapons for my class as well. This stuff is way too easy to get imo. It's all pretty cheap in terms of crafting mats vs availability.

Yeah the legendary is absolutely ridiculous amounts of effort for what amounts to a cosmetic item. I think it has like 1 or 2 additional damage on it ?
 

diesbudt

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Jun 1, 2012
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I have full exotic armour and all available weapons for my class as well. This stuff is way too easy to get imo. It's all pretty cheap in terms of crafting mats vs availability.

Yeah the legendary is absolutely ridiculous amounts of effort for what amounts to a cosmetic item. I think it has like 1 or 2 additional damage on it ?


How much did you play though? sounds like you hit the game hard and never stopped. I plopped in 85 hours just to reach lv 80 alone (still ahve my personal story to finish).

Along with 0 exotic armor, and I already am saving for the legendary weapon. Plus the actual PvP to do.

I think you bring up one of the issues many MMO players have now a days (whether you fit the bill or not, just mentioning you brought up the issue per se). Players push so hard and so fast on games that when they finish and all is "said and done" they get upset there isn't more. This has happened in WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc. also. It is getting worse too I believe.
 

Grooveriding

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How much did you play though? sounds like you hit the game hard and never stopped. I plopped in 85 hours just to reach lv 80 alone (still ahve my personal story to finish).

Along with 0 exotic armor, and I already am saving for the legendary weapon. Plus the actual PvP to do.

I think you bring up one of the issues many MMO players have now a days (whether you fit the bill or not, just mentioning you brought up the issue per se). Players push so hard and so fast on games that when they finish and all is "said and done" they get upset there isn't more. This has happened in WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc. also. It is getting worse too I believe.

I've played quite a bit, but I got to level 80 in about half the time you did. I played with a group of friends and we just zerged our way through quests/events. We all took different professions and pooled resources for crafting.

I haven't enjoyed a game as much in a while and was surprised I wanted to play as much as I did. The game is really good, just lacking at max level imo. This is something that can be improved upon though.
 

diesbudt

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Jun 1, 2012
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I've played quite a bit, but I got to level 80 in about half the time you did. I played with a group of friends and we just zerged our way through quests/events. We all took different professions and pooled resources for crafting.

I haven't enjoyed a game as much in a while and was surprised I wanted to play as much as I did. The game is really good, just lacking at max level imo. This is something that can be improved upon though.

Well if I know anything about GW2, from GW1. Cosmetic changes are the main things (along with achievements and PvP ranks) to work for until probably an expansion which will add levels zones and better gear.

I am glad the legendary looks like it requires sacrificing a lamb and 2 children souls to obtain. Especially not in a raid environment so I can do it when I want and for as long as I want.

The firelands staff was ridiculous in that sense. 3 Mo raiding just so the same person can get a staff, and if he didnt show up one night, we lost a night.
 

Grooveriding

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Well if I know anything about GW2, from GW1. Cosmetic changes are the main things (along with achievements and PvP ranks) to work for until probably an expansion which will add levels zones and better gear.

I am glad the legendary looks like it requires sacrificing a lamb and 2 children souls to obtain. Especially not in a raid environment so I can do it when I want and for as long as I want.

The firelands staff was ridiculous in that sense. 3 Mo raiding just so the same person can get a staff, and if he didnt show up one night, we lost a night.

I don't mind long and arduous grinds for cool stuff. I guess it's just subjective; I like it so long as it improves character power, cosmetic items don't do it for me.

I haven't raided in WoW since the end of TBC. I remember in my old guild our casters collecting splinters for the legendary staff. Haha, such a pointless legendary as it came so close to TBC and was totally worthless in no time. Grinding MC for bindings for Thunderfury for our tanks after MC was irrelevant was another one.

I agree it is nice to have a grind that you can do solo at your own pace though. Rather than one where you feel as if you are being pushed to complete it as quickly as possible.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Could add a system like daoc with realm points. Unlock passive and active traits. I am no where near the end of this game. Only lvl 31 on my human guardian running through the human zones. I plan on running a character through each races zone. So at this rate I probably have a solid 12 months of play time ahead of me across multiple classes. This is the best game so far when it comes to not feeling pressured to lvl. I can sit back and enjoy the game.
 

diesbudt

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I don't mind long and arduous grinds for cool stuff. I guess it's just subjective; I like it so long as it improves character power, cosmetic items don't do it for me.

I haven't raided in WoW since the end of TBC. I remember in my old guild our casters collecting splinters for the legendary staff. Haha, such a pointless legendary as it came so close to TBC and was totally worthless in no time. Grinding MC for bindings for Thunderfury for our tanks after MC was irrelevant was another one.

I agree it is nice to have a grind that you can do solo at your own pace though. Rather than one where you feel as if you are being pushed to complete it as quickly as possible.
That staff had a use! A protal to karazhan!

And the fun thing the Shade of Aran would say if someone had the staff equipped.

The firelands staff required about 12-14 weeks raiding 10man and 10-12 weeks raiding 25 man to make one. And since raids always required "set times and days" It was like a job. By week 9 people stopped showing up so had to bring more people in to replace just to finish that damned staff.
 

diesbudt

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Could add a system like daoc with realm points. Unlock passive and active traits. I am no where near the end of this game. Only lvl 31 on my human guardian running through the human zones. I plan on running a character through each races zone. So at this rate I probably have a solid 12 months of play time ahead of me across multiple classes. This is the best game so far when it comes to not feeling pressured to lvl. I can sit back and enjoy the game.

Same, and alts are fun, seeing how each played.

Thing with adding more "strength" to a character. Anet has always been big on keeping things simple to keep it as balanced as possible for PvP purposes. And I bet soon they will add more structured PvP content soon too.

I do wish there was a raid or 2 like in GW1 where there was 8-10 people in a group that farmed the mobs/bosses in a Huge ass explore at your own pace zone for ectos/shards. (85/100 groups were never good enough to finish the zone. Sometimes only partial finishing was done. And if the whole group died, you were ported out and had to start fresh. Def. was difficult. though it was for cosmetic stuff also.)
 

Grooveriding

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Could add a system like daoc with realm points. Unlock passive and active traits. I am no where near the end of this game. Only lvl 31 on my human guardian running through the human zones. I plan on running a character through each races zone. So at this rate I probably have a solid 12 months of play time ahead of me across multiple classes. This is the best game so far when it comes to not feeling pressured to lvl. I can sit back and enjoy the game.

I never played DAOC, but my friend said exactly this to me as well. I thought the system sounded awesome. Something like this would be really cool and give incentive to participate and do well in WvW. A lot of players don't seem to give a toss about doing anything in there. It also seems like at any given time about 50% of our server's players are doing the jumping puzzle instead of participating
 

Fallen Kell

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They need to simply be able to go through all complaints for your account that exist in the system and clear them all.

Now the real dick move that could be happening is that the person who originally hacked your account is using other accounts that he hacked to send complaints on accounts that he previously had hacked and were returned to the owner....
 

Fallen Kell

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I might be jumping back on my elemental again for a while. Ultimately I like the idea of the elemental, it is just getting there that has been a problem. I think a lot of that may have been the learning curve of the game, but I do have to admit that not being able to deal with a bunch of mobs that are zerging around you is really hard on such a squishy class. At least with my guarding when that is happening, I hit the signet of retribution, pop the virtue of justice, perform a giantsword cyclone followed by the giantsword leap attack and pretty much everything that was around me (and wasn't a veteran) is dead.

There is no similar combo on the elemental as there is no skill that keeps me alive long enough (like the retribution skill which reflects most of the damage back) to allow things like firestorm or similar to kill them all before they kill me (or it has an insane delay before activating).
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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I might be jumping back on my elemental again for a while. Ultimately I like the idea of the elemental, it is just getting there that has been a problem. I think a lot of that may have been the learning curve of the game, but I do have to admit that not being able to deal with a bunch of mobs that are zerging around you is really hard on such a squishy class. At least with my guarding when that is happening, I hit the signet of retribution, pop the virtue of justice, perform a giantsword cyclone followed by the giantsword leap attack and pretty much everything that was around me (and wasn't a veteran) is dead.

There is no similar combo on the elemental as there is no skill that keeps me alive long enough (like the retribution skill which reflects most of the damage back) to allow things like firestorm or similar to kill them all before they kill me (or it has an insane delay before activating).

that's one thing I really like about my Mes--for a squishy class, they have a ton of survivability through various escape mechanics. on top of that, a lot of the diversions that allow you to escape cause decent damage--traiting into the Vitality line, you can grant your iWarden--which already nullifies projectiles--reflection, which is an awesome thing. the cd on several skills is decent enough after you trait into them that you can nullify lots of damage, and provide clone fodder for things chasing you.

...this is assuming you are able to survive the first hit from a champion (not often the case) and can react fast enough

Mobs are somewhat manageable later on, as well. I'm quite proud of myself for being able to handle a massive over-aggro from a risen giant (the dudes that toss out grubs) and various other risen in a tight maze are in Ruins of Orr last night. Hak was with me, and there were a handful of rangers, warriors, and a guardian with us. Somehow, I don't get it...but I managed to be the only one that made it out alive, and actually managed to finish off a mob of about 5 grubs and other risen that were clumped all around me. Sure...I still get downed regularly, but I've taken the downed state to be an essential part of the Mesmer's play style
 

Zenoth

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Finally, jumping in the GW2 wagon. I'm downloading it as I type this... how big of a game is it? I'm at 30% and it's already 5.9 GB? Anyway, basic questions coming below, I prefer asking here to be honest (I haven't read the entire thread, forgive my lack of time and will to do that).

1) Any "recommended" (or "known to be") starter-friendly race to go with? From what I do know the Norn's starting areas are "simple" although I'm not sure if that means in terms of a learning curve or quest difficulty or... (I haven't read too much I'm trying to be as spoiler-free as possible for a fresh start without knowing too much).

2) Any recommended server(s) for Eastern Time zone? If not, perhaps recommended based on total population? Or does it not matter at all ultimately? (I think World Versus World combines all servers together, correct? But what about PvE content?)

3) Can I "complete" the game or at least "progress" my character completely alone if I chose to for PvE content? Or do I *have* to party-up a few times here and there for dungeons, etc?

Thanks guys.
 

Byte

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Anyone know if you can reduce load times with a ram disk? I've got an 830 but still annoyed wit the 5 second load times. Maxed out on 4x4 (game is just under 16gb) and thinking of going to 8x4 if it will help!
 

ShintaiDK

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Anyone know if you can reduce load times with a ram disk? I've got an 830 but still annoyed wit the 5 second load times. Maxed out on 4x4 (game is just under 16gb) and thinking of going to 8x4 if it will help!

Dont think so, its CPU limited.
 

Anubis

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Finally, jumping in the GW2 wagon. I'm downloading it as I type this... how big of a game is it? I'm at 30% and it's already 5.9 GB? Anyway, basic questions coming below, I prefer asking here to be honest (I haven't read the entire thread, forgive my lack of time and will to do that).

1) Any "recommended" (or "known to be") starter-friendly race to go with? From what I do know the Norn's starting areas are "simple" although I'm not sure if that means in terms of a learning curve or quest difficulty or... (I haven't read too much I'm trying to be as spoiler-free as possible for a fresh start without knowing too much).

2) Any recommended server(s) for Eastern Time zone? If not, perhaps recommended based on total population? Or does it not matter at all ultimately? (I think World Versus World combines all servers together, correct? But what about PvE content?)

3) Can I "complete" the game or at least "progress" my character completely alone if I chose to for PvE content? Or do I *have* to party-up a few times here and there for dungeons, etc?

Thanks guys.

1) ive done Norn, Charr and Human, i don't think any of them is easier vs the rest but the Norn is slightly more compact in area for for 1/2 the starting area, so less running

2) no idea

3) you can basically solo the entire game, you have to party up (4 other people) for a dungeon to complete your personal story but thats about it. you don't have to run any dungeons before that if you don't want, im lvl 79 haven't run one yet
 

qwertyaas

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Finally, jumping in the GW2 wagon. I'm downloading it as I type this... how big of a game is it? I'm at 30% and it's already 5.9 GB? Anyway, basic questions coming below, I prefer asking here to be honest (I haven't read the entire thread, forgive my lack of time and will to do that).

1) Any "recommended" (or "known to be") starter-friendly race to go with? From what I do know the Norn's starting areas are "simple" although I'm not sure if that means in terms of a learning curve or quest difficulty or... (I haven't read too much I'm trying to be as spoiler-free as possible for a fresh start without knowing too much).

2) Any recommended server(s) for Eastern Time zone? If not, perhaps recommended based on total population? Or does it not matter at all ultimately? (I think World Versus World combines all servers together, correct? But what about PvE content?)

3) Can I "complete" the game or at least "progress" my character completely alone if I chose to for PvE content? Or do I *have* to party-up a few times here and there for dungeons, etc?

Thanks guys.

I think the DL was around 16GB.

1) All the zones seem simple enough. I completed both Norn and Human. Norn felt a bit smaller but they guide you through well enough.

2) I picked a high server based on where people from another forum play. You could do the same with people from here or friends.

3) I'm only level 25 but map completion has to do with POI, Vistas, Quests and Ports. All can be done alone - well, without a formal party that is. But there are always being joining in on quests. And remember, just because someone tags a mob, doesn't mean you don't get exp or drops. Pretty much, everyone shares everything - even resource nodes.

That staff had a use! A protal to karazhan!

And the fun thing the Shade of Aran would say if someone had the staff equipped.

The firelands staff required about 12-14 weeks raiding 10man and 10-12 weeks raiding 25 man to make one. And since raids always required "set times and days" It was like a job. By week 9 people stopped showing up so had to bring more people in to replace just to finish that damned staff.

I can't believe I raided in WoW. I mean, I quit even before they added that raid in Silithus(?) but looking back, running MC and BWL was just such a waste of time. It actually made me hate the game. It was just such a pointless grind. At least in games like Lineage 2 or Shadowbane which was all about PvP, getting gear made sense. WoW (to me) wasn't a PvP game at all. It was just a grinding gear so you can get into the next raid to grind new gear.
 
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imaheadcase

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So i got 80 on elm other night. I don't really see anything worth progressed on with it. I enjoy WvW, but its so lopsided sometimes its not even worth playing. I have no desire to play for super gear when it does not really matter in wvw.

I played a warrior to level 5 before i went to sleep. OMG, that is such easy mode I can't believe how good they are vs my puny elm
 
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