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zinfamous

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Looks like the server is full so I can't join it.

go ahead and create your character(s) wherever. you can try to join stormbluff for the next week or so for free. It tends to open up from time to time.

plus, you can always join the guild, regardless of your home server
 

Josh123

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go ahead and create your character(s) wherever. you can try to join stormbluff for the next week or so for free. It tends to open up from time to time.

plus, you can always join the guild, regardless of your home server

Well I finally got in last night and the leveling/questing seems pretty straight forward.

I didn't really care for the way the trade market layout looked but maybe it's because it's all new. I had no idea what items to really keep and what was worthless when I looted enemy bodies. Maybe if I get in with the guild and hop in a voice channel it will make things easier.

I really wish you could assign a key map to auto attack. Coming from WoW I would have one side button to target nearest enemy and the second side button to attack. It's not that big of a deal though since I usually keep my hand on 1-4 keys.

The WvW seemed neat but I had no idea how to exit the battle and get back to leveling.

The graphics and world looked great and I loved the random events that took place when exploring different areas. I think I would enjoy the game 100x more with a guild and people I know. Maybe I can talk my wife into it but I'm still torn on spending another $60 when MoP is being released next week.

All in all, it's a nice change from WoW but like most games, without friends to enjoy it the game is just "meh".
 

jcwagers

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You can have your character auto-attack. When you look at the skill you're using(I'm going to use skill 1 for an example because that's your main attack and it generally has no cooldown), at the bottom of the skill icon it will say click ctrl +right click to enable auto-attack. I think it's ctrl......might be alt or shift but......you get the idea. You can also disable auto-attack the same way. I do have times when I feel the auto-attack doesn't work so well but overall it works pretty decent.
 

darkewaffle

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I had no idea what items to really keep and what was worthless when I looted enemy bodies.

Grey items are vendor trash, just NPC. About 1-30 I'd salvage anything white/blue; try to auction house greens but only certain ones will sell (if you see hundreds/thousands of them already listed at the same price, just NPC it instead). Crafting mats are pretty much always worth selling on the AH unless you'll actually use them.

About 31-75 I'd still AH greens (and yellows if you run into any) when possible, NPC otherwise. Blues it depends but I think it's pretty safe to NPC most of them instead of salvage (since even 2-3 of most mid levels base materials is <= NPC price imo). White items can go either way, in general if something NPCs for less than ~20c it's probably worth salvaging, with certain materials pushing that threshold up.

Make sure you pick up some 8 slot bags (they're like 30c each on the AH last I checked) to fill in your blank spots and make sure you use "Deposit All Collectibles" (Inventory > click the "Gear" in upper right) to throw random crafting mats in your 'second' (collectible) bank from the field.
 

Keeper

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Grey items are vendor trash, just NPC. About 1-30 I'd salvage anything white/blue; try to auction house greens but only certain ones will sell (if you see hundreds/thousands of them already listed at the same price, just NPC it instead). Crafting mats are pretty much always worth selling on the AH unless you'll actually use them.

About 31-75 I'd still AH greens (and yellows if you run into any) when possible, NPC otherwise. Blues it depends but I think it's pretty safe to NPC most of them instead of salvage (since even 2-3 of most mid levels base materials is <= NPC price imo). White items can go either way, in general if something NPCs for less than ~20c it's probably worth salvaging, with certain materials pushing that threshold up.

Make sure you pick up some 8 slot bags (they're like 30c each on the AH last I checked) to fill in your blank spots and make sure you use "Deposit All Collectibles" (Inventory > click the "Gear" in upper right) to throw random crafting mats in your 'second' (collectible) bank from the field.


LOL Deposit ALL collectable from the field? THANK YOU... I should enjoy this game a tad more now.

Hmmm, strat guide may be needed....
 

diesbudt

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LOL Deposit ALL collectable from the field? THANK YOU... I should enjoy this game a tad more now.

Hmmm, strat guide may be needed....

I knwo some people who didn't know this till lv 30 gettign upset running back to town so often to unload their bags... haha

Also first page of this thread has tips/helpful tools for playing that says something about this.
 
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JamesV

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Met my first elitist jerk last night; surprisingly took this long.

Ran Arah shard run, and on the second boss the ranged nearly always exploit a spot you cannot be hit at. A few of my spells won't reach from there, and I can stay alive pretty easily at the boss anyway, so I stay on the ground.

Didn't die, had aggro on the boss for a good portion, but apparently I suck because I don't sit in the exploit spot. Guy kept going on about 'people not listening', so I just said 'fine, gl on your runs' and I left... but then he keeps messaging me like 'I understand you can't listen'. Had to block him.

Really wish they would fix the exploits so these pretend players get stomped when they find out learning the fights is their best bet, and not exploiting.
 

Anubis

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yea the deposit all collectables was a life saver when i found it, i was right clicking on everything 1 at a time before that

if anyone needs 8 slot bags ill just make them for you and mail them over, they are stupid cheap, i can make 10s as well but they cost more and arent really worth it

Gained like 7 levels on the Ele yesterday just crafting, pushed past the blocks i had on Tailoring and JC at lower levels, once i got over the 125 hump because i had no mats i powerd both up over 300 in a matter of mins. im thinking im going to drop cooking for something else on my war because the discovery part of it is just so fing annoying. really wish i leveled it when you could buy everything for next to no karma
 

diesbudt

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Met my first elitist jerk last night; surprisingly took this long.

Ran Arah shard run, and on the second boss the ranged nearly always exploit a spot you cannot be hit at. A few of my spells won't reach from there, and I can stay alive pretty easily at the boss anyway, so I stay on the ground.

Didn't die, had aggro on the boss for a good portion, but apparently I suck because I don't sit in the exploit spot. Guy kept going on about 'people not listening', so I just said 'fine, gl on your runs' and I left... but then he keeps messaging me like 'I understand you can't listen'. Had to block him.

Really wish they would fix the exploits so these pretend players get stomped when they find out learning the fights is their best bet, and not exploiting.

That did take a while wow.

However, doing the exploit I watched the fight from up top and w/o doing it could already see the best for suriviving such a fight. Doesn't look all that bad.

I am surprised they havent fixed this yet, considering so many people are not even bothering finishing the dungeon because of this.
 
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aigomorla

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so an old wow friend convinced me to transfer servers because "all the old guys are playing again"

but yeah... i think i might move clock cleaner back over to stormbluff

GOOD LUCK... hoon is still trying to come back.
I even thought about swaping servers to get some farming done as its close to impossible now on stormbuff.

Last night people were fighting in cursed shore telling everyone get the f* out cuz it was that over populated.

But yeah... the only thing holding me back from swaping servers, is i dont want to be like hoon and get stuck at the door without a entry pass.

Since TL2 is out, GW2 is going on the backburner, especially with all the issues I've been having with it.

Dude im totally on your side...
If it was me, id probably back shelf the game and put Boarderlands 2 up for testing. That was the first game which i was gonna play b4 i ran into guild wars 2.
I love first person shooters, and i love RPG first person shooters even more.
I wish GW2, allowed u to go into FPS mode and play as a FPS if u had range.

Looks like the server is full so I can't join it.

^ yeah... as i said hoon has been trying to get back in, but unfortunately he's stuck at the door.

I am surprised they havent fixed this yet, considering so many people are not even bothering finishing the dungeon because of this.

Well its part of the game.
Personally if it was a dungeon crushing party... like Tig, Me, Hak, Saha, poly we could probably finish it as fast as the guys exploting it.

Why? cuz were not lacking on any dps of any calibur, and we have enough tanks to soak damage.

However most Arah shard runs are done by elementalists + rangers + sins.
Pulling the hunter solo requires a Sin or an elementalist.

Hence why i think they assume its part of the game.
And not completing the dungeon does make us miss out on a potential 20 extra shards.
People assume they cant do the last boss and the final boss in the time it takes the first two bosses.
However people also forget that you get a nice fat 15 shard bonus at completion.

So when i was doing raw number crunching..

Tear shard run -> 10-15 min if u double pull crusher / hunter.
Full shard run -> 30-45 minutes if u have the right group. -> + 15 shard bonus at end.

So the first will probably be better as u can get 16 tokens fast if u dont have the right party.
If you had the right party a full run is more ideal as u gain way more for the 15 shard bonus at dungeon completion.
 
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diesbudt

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GOOD LUCK... hoon is still trying to come back.
I even thought about swaping servers to get some farming done as its close to impossible now on stormbuff.

Last night people were fighting in cursed shore telling everyone get the f* out cuz it was that over populated.

But yeah... the only thing holding me back from swaping servers, is i dont want to be like hoon and get stuck at the door without a entry pass.



Dude im totally on your side...
If it was me, id probably back shelf the game and put Boarderlands 2 up for testing. That was the first game which i was gonna play b4 i ran into guild wars 2.
I love first person shooters, and i love RPG first person shooters even more.
I wish GW2, allowed u to go into FPS mode and play as a FPS if u had range.



^ yeah... as i said hoon has been trying to get back in, but unfortunately he's stuck at the door.



Well its part of the game.
Personally if it was a dungeon crushing party... like Tig, Me, Hak, Saha, poly we could probably finish it as fast as the guys exploting it.

Why? cuz were not lacking on any dps of any calibur, and we have enough tanks to soak damage.

However most Arah shard runs are done by elementalists + rangers + sins.
Pulling the hunter solo requires a Sin or an elementalist.

Hence why i think they assume its part of the game.
And not completing the dungeon does make us miss out on a potential 20 extra shards.
People assume they cant do the last boss and the final boss in the time it takes the first two bosses.
However people also forget that you get a nice fat 15 shard bonus at completion.

So when i was doing raw number crunching..

Tear shard run -> 10-15 min if u double pull crusher / hunter.
Full shard run -> 30-45 minutes if u have the right group. -> + 15 shard bonus at end.

So the first will probably be better as u can get 16 tokens fast if u dont have the right party.
If you had the right party a full run is more ideal as u gain way more for the 15 shard bonus at dungeon completion.

Makes sense.

I earned about .5g in 2 quick runs via all the drops I had and didnt think worth salvaging or putting into a forge.

Thinking of popping another Magic find +10% tonight and doing many duingeon runs.
 

aigomorla

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Thinking of popping another Magic find +10% tonight and doing many duingeon runs.

Ok lemme clear up the confusion with magic find...

1. Magic find only works on drops from monsters.
2. Magic find does not work on chest.
3. Magic find does not work on Harvesting mats.

So in your case if u active magic find.. unless u kill every last mob inside the dungeon, you will get 0 benifit from looting chests which shard runs are in most cases.

If your event farming.. magic find will help as ur killing mobs in masses.
But going around loot chests, all the magic find in the world wont really help you because the bosses themselves arent what drops the exotic... its the chest.

Which is why u always see me at Greneth...
 

diesbudt

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Ok lemme clear up the confusion with magic find...

1. Magic find only works on drops from monsters.
2. Magic find does not work on chest.
3. Magic find does not work on Harvesting mats.

So in your case if u active magic find.. unless u kill every last mob inside the dungeon, you will get 0 benifit from looting chests which shard runs are in most cases.

If your event farming.. magic find will help as ur killing mobs in masses.
But going around loot chests, all the magic find in the world wont really help you because the bosses themselves arent what drops the exotic... its the chest.

Which is why u always see me at Greneth...

Let me Clarify what I ment by saying I would pop it.

Just pop it because its the weekend and it is so cheap to make again (500 influence) and while I explore the 2 new maps I was forced to run through yesterday, I could increase the find of T6 blue crafting mats. Not because I want to do dungeons.

The dungeon statement was just saying I want more dungeons, both for shards and the gear/money I earn from them.

However I don't think your #3 is correct. Myself and others I have read about around the forums have seen a substantial increase of gems in mining, and bags in trees with 25% magic find. Someone even went around and did 5 loops in a zone with 25% MF and 0% MF and found he got about a 20-30% increase in gems/bags from harvesting alone.
 
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aigomorla

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Let me Clarify what I ment by saying I would pop it.

Just pop it because its the weekend and it is so cheap to make again (500 influence) and while I explore the 2 new maps I was forced to run through yesterday, I could increase the find of T6 blue crafting mats. Not because I want to do dungeons.

The dungeon statement was just saying I want more dungeons, both for shards and the gear/money I earn from them.

However I don't think your #3 is correct. Myself and others I have read about around the forums have seen a substantial increase of gems in mining, and bags in trees with 25% magic find. Someone even went around and did 5 loops in a zone with 25% MF and 0% MF and found he got about a 20-30% increase in gems/bags from harvesting alone.

T6 mats ARE only dropped from lvl83 event mobs, and even then some of the mats just dont drop.
You need to get them from the bags which lvl83 event mobs drop, and then hopefully as you open the bags, you will get mats.

This is why T6 mats are a PITFA to farm, because there is no reliable way to farm them via killing something.

Mining has its own bonus.
Its called Harvesting bonus.
Theres a separate thing for harvesting, and its a guild perk too.
 

imaheadcase

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Man if you are rolling a elm class, STOP. Switch to a warrior.

I can't believe how big of a difference between these two classes are in ease of use and damage. Holy christ they messed up the ele class. lol
 

krnmastersgt

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Man if you are rolling a elm class, STOP. Switch to a warrior.

I can't believe how big of a difference between these two classes are in ease of use and damage. Holy christ they messed up the ele class. lol

The difficulty curve for classes is relatively the same as the armor classes in reverse, light armor = hardest to use while heavy armor = easiest to use. Because as much fun as it is mastering the attack patterns and animations of dangerous mobs, sometimes you want to just stand there and kill them without worrying about dying.

Another thing I think Anet messed up on was the balancing for weapon classes, they made the classic error most MMORPG's make when dealing with ranged vs. melee in that melee is usually more powerful to make up for the fact that it's incredibly hard to kite with and basically requires to facetank anything you try to fight. While the warrior is incredibly simple to use it's also got very simple tactics, if you can't tank the mobs long enough to kill them chances are you're not going to find a way to beat them. The caster classes have to do a lot more work to kill the same amount, but most of them have a LOT of advanced tactics and debuffs to help them do so.

But yes, Warrior is a LOT strong for the early stages of PvE compared to just about any other class (cept maybe Guardian, stupid hard to die as a guardian early on).
 

aigomorla

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But yes, Warrior is a LOT strong for the early stages of PvE compared to just about any other class (cept maybe Guardian, stupid hard to die as a guardian early on).

whatchoo talking about willus...

IVe seen Tig die many times in AC dungeons... :biggrin:
Ahhhh its funny how fast the team will wipe once the guardian and warrior is kissing the floor.

Well thankfully if we have garth on at that time, he just kites and prays one of us can respawn fast enough to retank the boss...
 

krnmastersgt

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whatchoo talking about willus...

IVe seen Tig die many times in AC dungeons... :biggrin:
Ahhhh its funny how fast the team will wipe once the guardian and warrior is kissing the floor.

Well thankfully if we have garth on at that time, he just kites and prays one of us can respawn fast enough to retank the boss...

Mesmer can kite any boss indefinitely Well bosses that can be kited anyways (some dungeon bosses don't move so...)

Also aigo your calculation on farming shards only holds true for the first run, after doing a path for a large period of time you only get 5 tokens for the dungeon when you complete it, vs the 8 shards over and over again which you can actually probably complete faster than 10-15 if everyone specs for the dungeon (+10% undead and such).
 

JamesV

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Ok lemme clear up the confusion with magic find...

... all the magic find in the world wont really help you because the bosses themselves arent what drops the exotic... its the chest.

...

I got the Focus that makes the legendary Focus (base weapon) from a boss in a Citadel of Flame story mission no less. Running Arah 5 times an hour, I see more greens on bosses than I see in chests.

So I'd have to disagree... the bosses themselves can and do drop some good loot; often better than the chest. Plus, mf food is cheap, so why not chow down before a run?
 

krnmastersgt

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lol, my account is locked again...



Your e-mail or something must be compromised, or you have a keylogger. My friend had his account similarly compromised, but after a few e-mails he got his account back, changed his pass and has had no issue whatsoever since then.

That or someone has a serious grudge against you/the "hacker" doesn't like you very much.
 
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