Official Athlon 64 X2 preorder/instock thread...

[bjc112]

Good price J, and good luck overclocking that new (2nd chip) mark

 

[Markfw]

Actually it will probably go to Duvie after I play with it. I just have the cash at the moment... WE will see... Tring it this tome on a crap motherboard Chaintech S1689 ULI chipset !!!! flashed it to a bios that says it supports dual-core, but no OC capability.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Actually it will probably go to Duvie after I play with it. I just have the cash at the moment... WE will see... Tring it this tome on a crap motherboard Chaintech S1689 ULI chipset !!!! flashed it to a bios that says it supports dual-core, but no OC capability.

Looks like that ULi chipset ran the X2 just fine after we tried WindowsXP. Don't know what was up with Win2k, but hopefully you'll figure that one out. A pleasure meeting you Mark, and it was fun seeing all your toys.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Actually it will probably go to Duvie after I play with it. I just have the cash at the moment... WE will see... Tring it this tome on a crap motherboard Chaintech S1689 ULI chipset !!!! flashed it to a bios that says it supports dual-core, but no OC capability.

Looks like that ULi chipset ran the X2 just fine after we tried WindowsXP. Don't know what was up with Win2k, but hopefully you'll figure that one out. A pleasure meeting you Mark, and it was fun seeing all your toys.

Yeah supposedly I get to get to drive the car sometime!!!

 

[LED]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody in the Portland/Vancouver Metro Area want to buy one of my 4400+ X2's off me? $546

The guy who I bought it for decided to go with a Venice instead, BTW.

PM duvie he'll buy it. If not I'll buy it but I live 900 miles away but will pay shipping.

I already offered, and PM'ed him, but he won;t answer me.

Sorry Mark, I got a call from a friend out of nowhere and we headed down to Cannon Beach for the day. I PM'ed you back; give me a call if you still want it.

Drive your a$$ up there

Markfw900
could you run som benches cause I got an ULi chipset that I just updated to handle the X2ers TIA

 

[T2k]

Yep, some new benches would be good..,

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Actually it will probably go to Duvie after I play with it. I just have the cash at the moment... WE will see... Tring it this tome on a crap motherboard Chaintech S1689 ULI chipset !!!! flashed it to a bios that says it supports dual-core, but no OC capability.

Looks like that ULi chipset ran the X2 just fine after we tried WindowsXP. Don't know what was up with Win2k, but hopefully you'll figure that one out. A pleasure meeting you Mark, and it was fun seeing all your toys.

Yeah supposedly I get to get to drive the car sometime!!!

You bet, come on over , and you can play with the X2 also.
Oh, and win2k got hosed somehow, I had to do a repai instal to get the winchester to work. IAfter we got back from the boat trip, all the kids wanted to play a lan party, so I neede to put the 430 back where it was to play games, . Then I put the X2 in the Abit board where it is now at 2477 The neo2 X2 is doing fine at 2560. I did have the new X2 at 2650 or something like that at 1.475 vols just like the neo2, but the temps said 70c idle !!!! So I put it back down to 1.4 and 2477.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: T2k
Yep, some new benches would be good..,

Benches, what kind ????

 

[LED]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: T2k
Yep, some new benches would be good..,

Benches, what kind ????

Start with SiSoft abd HDTach...TIA

 

[Markfw]

OK sissoft 2005 cpu arithmetic:
SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Dhrystone ALU : 23537 MIPS
Whetstone FPU : 8041 MFLOPS
Whetstone iSSE2 : 10404 MFLOPS

Performance Test Status
Run ID : MARK64-3700 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 9:26:28 PM
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 2
Multi-Core Test : Yes
Number of Test Cores (per CPU) : 2
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : PP0 CP1
Number of Runs : 64000 / 640

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
Speed : 2.56GHz
Model Number : 4400 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR3845 (estimated)
CPUs per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Type : Low Power
L2 On-board Cache : 1MB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size

Chipset 1
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nforce3 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 932MHz (1864MHz data rate)

Chipset 2
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 932MHz (1864MHz data rate)

Features
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip 233 : Consider using the Win64 x64 version of SiSoftware Sandra.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Integer x4 aEMMX/aSSE : 48626 it/s
Float x4 iSSE2 : 52319 it/s

Performance Test Status
Run ID : MARK64-3700 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 9:29:34 PM
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 2
Multi-Core Test : Yes
Number of Test Cores (per CPU) : 2
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : PP0 CP1
Rendered Image Size : 640x480

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
Speed : 2.56GHz
Model Number : 4400 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR3845 (estimated)
CPUs per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Type : Low Power
L2 On-board Cache : 1MB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size

Chipset 1
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nforce3 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 932MHz (1864MHz data rate)

Chipset 2
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 932MHz (1864MHz data rate)

Features
(W)MMX Technology : Yes
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
3DNow! Technology : Yes
Extended 3DNow! Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip 233 : Consider using the Win64 x64 version of SiSoftware Sandra.
Warning 5407 : Optimisation Override has been engaged on this CPU.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
RAM Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 6191 MB/s
RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 : 6112 MB/s

Int Buff'd iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 6287MB/s
Scaling : 6288MB/s
Addition : 6105MB/s
Triad : 6084MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 83% (estimated)

Float Buff'd iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 6270MB/s
Scaling : 6229MB/s
Addition : 5985MB/s
Triad : 5966MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 82% (estimated)

Performance Test Status
Run ID : MARK64-3700 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 9:31:32 PM
Memory Used by Test : 512MB
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
Multi-Core Test : Yes
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : PP0
Page Size : 4kB
Use Large Memory Pages : No

Chipset 1
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) nforce3 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 932MHz (1864MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 7456MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks

Chipset 2
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 932MHz (1864MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 7456MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-3 2CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-3 2CMD
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 2-way
Speed : 2x 233MHz (466MHz data rate)
Width : 128-bit
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 7456MB/s (estimated)

Features
(W)MMX Technology : Yes
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip 233 : Consider using the Win64 x64 version of SiSoftware Sandra.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

I don;t see the reason for HDtach, as disk IO is not pertinent to a dual-core. More suggestions ?

 

[LED]

Holy Moly Mark...is the square/CPU unlocked?...yea and that HDTach would when as Nascar race with the SCSI's
:Q

NEbody want to buy mybrand new NF3 DFI AGP MoBo?...the only catch is it comes with a Manchester that OC's well

 

[Capt Caveman]

fyi - My X2 4400+ that I ordered from Mwave friday is being delivered today. One day ahead of schedule!

 

[T2k]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
OK sissoft 2005 cpu arithmetic:
SiSoftware Sandra

Thanks. Can you run Everest's memory test rather? I'm curious about *real* memory speeds...

PS: Everest is not simply much better in diagnostics (HP uses it for years now, since it was AIDA32, we use it here for 100 machines for inventory, remote process/service management, diags etc) but it sports a small memory tests which gives a score way closer to reality: http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1&lang=en
Home Edition is free.

 

[noctdeus]

This thread feels slightly hijacked with all these benchmarks. Anyone have info on the X2 being in stock somewhere or good pre-order deals? I got burned at ZZF falsely stating it was in stock when I cancelled my TankGuys preorder..

 

[EODetroit]

I got the same out of stock email from ZZF, and I placed my order one minute before I got the Tank Guys email telling me ZZF had them lol. Anyways, I anticipated this and that's why I said I wouldn't cancel my TG order until I got a tracking number from someone else. At that point the only company's "In Stock" claim that I will believe is Newegg's.

ZZF's email said they are expecting stock on July 1st. We'll see but that isn't too long to wait. So I'll keep my order with them too, but I'm canceling a week after that if it still hasn't shipped since I don't want that on my credit card when the monthly cycle bills me. Worst that happens is TG and ZZF both get stock at the very same time and I get two of em... at least I have decent prices locked in.

 

[imported_Technomancer]

That's kind of a bummer there. On the other hand, my Mwave order has been sitting in a warehouse by my house since Friday night... a little late for Friday delivery. My P-180 from Tankguys only just now shipped out of Illinois. It's been in Illinois for the past week since Tankguys shipped it out... I'm a bit irked at UPS.

 

[TankGuys]

Originally posted by: noctdeus
This thread feels slightly hijacked with all these benchmarks. Anyone have info on the X2 being in stock somewhere or good pre-order deals? I got burned at ZZF falsely stating it was in stock when I cancelled my TankGuys preorder..

I think mwave may still have some. You could also check TigerDirect... I know people tend to not like them, but at least they may have them in stock.

On a side note, on of our distributors is telling me that we're getting ~18 or so shipped to us on the 29th. Of course, I'm not holding my breath, but it's possible.

 

[TankGuys]

Originally posted by: Technomancer
That's kind of a bummer there. On the other hand, my Mwave order has been sitting in a warehouse by my house since Friday night... a little late for Friday delivery. My P-180 from Tankguys only just now shipped out of Illinois. It's been in Illinois for the past week since Tankguys shipped it out... I'm a bit irked at UPS.

Yea, UPS can be really annoying. We actually ship with FedEx a lot too, we generally have better luck with them. However, sometimes if I use UPS, I can ship sooner depending on when the services run thier pick-ups. Sorry to hear about UPS being slow like that, I'll remember that in the future.

 

[StyleMechanics]

So, I'm getting my motherboard and windows today from ZZF without my 4400. Not bitching or whining...just stating the facts. bummer.

 

[T2k]

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: Technomancer
That's kind of a bummer there. On the other hand, my Mwave order has been sitting in a warehouse by my house since Friday night... a little late for Friday delivery. My P-180 from Tankguys only just now shipped out of Illinois. It's been in Illinois for the past week since Tankguys shipped it out... I'm a bit irked at UPS.

Yea, UPS can be really annoying. We actually ship with FedEx a lot too, we generally have better luck with them. However, sometimes if I use UPS, I can ship sooner depending on when the services run thier pick-ups. Sorry to hear about UPS being slow like that, I'll remember that in the future.

OFF

I really prefer UPS - FedEx is completely retarded here. Last time they got me twice taking a day off for sitting home for nothing: nobody showed up.
Even when they finally arrived (3rd day), they came waay too late... and the guy wanted to COME BACK because he couldn't find the pick up number... when I said you don't go anywhere, he said I can't kidnap him, he'll call the police. I said go ahead - no, I won't kidnap you, I just won't let you out from here without my dead HDTV... he was a frikkin lazy@ss. And half of them (FedEx folks) are the same @ss in my home area.

UPS is completely different experience: arrives always between 10-11AM, like a swiss watch, always the same, very polite guy. Heck, he even got some recipes from us (he smelled the goodie when my wife was cooking ).
I prefer UPS in my home area at any day over FedEx.

 

[DLMyth]

Strange for me UPS just throws the package anywhere if no one answers the door. The last time I had my package on top of my bush On the other hand Fed Ex will either come back or tell me when I can pick up the package from their base. Other than that, Mwave seems to have all the X2 chips but the 4400. So if anyone wants to buy 4200, 4600 or the 4800 Mwave has it and they're quick to deliver.

 

[Romir]

The quality of service from UPS really depends on the drivers in your area and maybe how much of a work load they have. Many people report problems with UPS while many others have had basically no problems. All the carriers do just fine in my area.

Right now I'm dissapointed that FedEx now sells out their customers privacy to the FBI, Department of Homeland Security, and U.S. Customs. They monitor and report customer activities and share a police department, as well as a database with the Federal government. UPS refused to peddle their customers information.

 

[100proof]

Tankguys, Any updates from your distributors on stock, or when you might receive some X2's?

 

[TankGuys]

Originally posted by: 100proof
Any updates from your distributors on stock, or when you might receive some X2's?

*possibly* being shipped to us on the 29th. I'm not going to bet money on it, but it's possible. What's strange is that I CAN get dual core opterons, yet no X2's. Very frustrating.

On the plus side, we finally started carrying OCZ memory. So at least there is some good news!

 

[EODetroit]

You have any NForce Pro boards? Hmm....