*OFFICIAL* ATI Radeon X800 PRO & XT Review Thread

[GTaudiophile]

ETA on Anand's review?

 

[MemberSince97]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: MemberSince97
ATI Has thier Demos up ATI DEMOS

Where's the nude patch already???

Polygon Pron?
:laugh:

 

[Reliant]

AT REVIEW UP!!!

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Reliant
AT REVIEW UP!!!

Linkage

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Reliant
AT REVIEW UP!!!

No it isn;t !

 

[Brian48]

Originally posted by: MemberSince97

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: MemberSince97
ATI Has thier Demos up ATI DEMOS

Where's the nude patch already???

Polygon Pron?
:laugh:

Well, sex does sell

 

[GTaudiophile]

Derek, did nVidia tell you to introduce ATi's new card this way?

Today we herald the release of the new ATI graphics solution. Though the R420 is still based on DX9's PS2.0, performance numbers look to be on par with what we would expect from a company who has lead the industry in performance for nearly two years.

 

[Reliant]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Reliant
AT REVIEW UP!!!

No it isn;t !

Look at the front page. And for good measure, here.

 

[Nebor]

Looks like I can safely return to Nvidia video cards. Good to see they're so even.

 

[Regs]

I knew it was going to be like this again! LMAO LMAO!

Fudge, I really do think ATI and Nvidia do this on purpose. Whos the middle man?

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Looks like I can safely return to Nvidia video cards. Good to see they're so even.

Have fun with your 480W PSU

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: Nebor
Looks like I can safely return to Nvidia video cards. Good to see they're so even.

Have fun with your 480W PSU

"With ATI's peformance on par in older games and slightly ahead in newer games, the beefy power supply requirement, two slot solution, and sheer heat generated by NV40 may be too much for most people to take the NVIDIA plunge." -Anandtech Quote of the day

Salute to you Nebor.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Reliant

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Reliant
AT REVIEW UP!!!

No it isn;t !

Look at the front page. And for good measure, here.

Two minutes after I posted that it cam up. Anyway, it sure is a mixed bag, and I like the single power connector, and the low heat and power consumption of the x800. My 9800pro won't be tired until these come down to $200, and then I will decide, but right now ATI has my overall vote.

 

[Sureshot324]

ATI really needs to start working on improving their opengl drivers.

 

[Mem]

I prefer the smaller design and lower power usage of the XT800,if I was going to buy between ATI and Nvidia,ATi does it for me right now,good to see both companies offering close performance.

Got to take your hat off to ATi they`ve come back fighting like they did with the 9700 Pro.

 

[MemberSince97]

Originally posted by: Sureshot324
ATI really needs to start working on improving their opengl drivers.

Seriously

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: MemberSince97

Originally posted by: Sureshot324
ATI really needs to start working on improving their opengl drivers.

Seriously

I'm thinking it's easier to work on drivers than it is to work on power consumption issues.

 

[Acanthus]

But uh you can buy a beefier power supply. You cant buy magic drivers that run good in opengl

 

[rbV5]

IMO, Nvidia needs to exploit their feature advantage of the PVP chip (if there is an advantage to exploit). Too bad it was a paper feature of the launch so that we can't really see what it is capable of. Apparently ATI is staying with the shader pipeline for DXVA, so IF NV's Programmable Video Processor really can do whatt they say its capable of doing, they could have a real advantage with a real feature. Looks like both camps have some serious fast hardware to be proud of, nice job!

 

[GTaudiophile]

I too wonder what ATI's problem is with OpenGL. The same performance difference was visible when the 9800 PRO came out, compared to the 5900 Ultra. Since then, ATI has done little-to-nothing. So, I must conclude that ATI's problem is one of lack of trying.

 

[LTC8K6]

It's hard to get rid of "sheer heat".

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I too wonder what ATI's problem is with OpenGL. The same performance difference was visible when the 9800 PRO came out, compared to the 5900 Ultra. Since then, ATI has done little-to-nothing. So, I must conclude that ATI's problem is one of lack of trying.

It's really odd too because you'd figure with FireGL products based on the same architecture as Radeon cards they could reuse a good portion of the the FireGL driver code for the Radeon's OpenGL.

 

[Chadder007]

Words for the two Companies...

ATI:
Improve your OpenGL performance
Improve stability of drivers
Nvidia:
Improve your DirectX performance
Improve your Power requirements

As far as performance improvements from drivers go....I think Nvidia stands the best chance of inching out more performance since their hardware architecture is a bit different compared to what the NV35 was. Also who knows....maybe one of them pulled a driver optimization over on the reviewers...

 

[Lyfer]

Let the price wars begin.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I too wonder what ATI's problem is with OpenGL. The same performance difference was visible when the 9800 PRO came out, compared to the 5900 Ultra. Since then, ATI has done little-to-nothing. So, I must conclude that ATI's problem is one of lack of trying.

It's really odd too because you'd figure with FireGL products based on the same architecture as Radeon cards they could reuse a good portion of the the FireGL driver code for the Radeon's OpenGL.

Except FireGL kinda sucks too, especially compared to nVidia's offerings.
I think it's somehow just a hardware problem, if that's possible. They've had 18~ months to make it better and they don't seem to have done all that much.
But the performance isn't too bad anyway, it's definately playable.