Official Avail. Nov 13th - Android 4.2 - LG Nexus 4 - Asus Nexus 7 - Samsung Nexus 10

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cbrunny

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Anyone in Canada have 4.2 OTA on the Galaxy Nexus?

Still nothing on mine. I'm with Bell, wondering if others are in the same boat. Running the yakju build so I'm kind of surprised. Heard yakju gets updates faster, so I blame Canada.
 

ponyo

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Anyone in Canada have 4.2 OTA on the Galaxy Nexus?

Still nothing on mine. I'm with Bell, wondering if others are in the same boat. Running the yakju build so I'm kind of surprised. Heard yakju gets updates faster, so I blame Canada.

Last I read it was only Takju with OTA update.
 

VashHT

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Wow it's crazy what people will pay just to get the 4 a little earlier. People are selling it on ebay already for 550 or so for the 16gb, I saw one going for over 700.
 

pm

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currently, my google wallet page only shows that google received my order. is that what yours states as well? i'm trying to get an idea of when to expect a shipping confirmation and/or tracking information. i'm going out of town this weekend and would hate for it to arrive after i've already left town

I have a shipping estimate of Nov. 15 according to My Orders and Settings (at the bottom of https://play.google.com/store, or directly here: https://play.google.com/store/account) which is a bit more information than it had in my Google Wallet entry.
 

Red Storm

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Wow it's crazy what people will pay just to get the 4 a little earlier. People are selling it on ebay already for 550 or so for the 16gb, I saw one going for over 700.

I've seen it on CL for $500, but I'm assuming the really high eBay pricing is buyers who don't have access to the Play Store.
 

Eug

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I've seen it on CL for $500, but I'm assuming the really high eBay pricing is buyers who don't have access to the Play Store.
There have been a few eBay listings that have gone from >$1000 to down to <$500. It seems the fake eBay bidders are out in force, with eBay cleaning up the auctions every once in a while.

Me, I'll just wait. I'm hopeful for new units to go on sale in within a week or two.
 

Red Storm

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There have been a few eBay listings that have gone from >$1000 to down to <$500. It seems the fake eBay bidders are out in force, with eBay cleaning up the auctions every once in a while.

Me, I'll just wait. I'm hopeful for new units to go on sale in within a week or two.

Likewise. I'll be jumping ship from Verizon to Straight Talk, but my employer pays my bill so I'm not in any rush.
 

Eug

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Nate Swanner keeps saying they totally underestimated demand for the Nexus 4:

https://plus.google.com/106515095432315677569/posts/fAA6PNbUxCK?authuser

Maybe, but then again he says they have better production for the Nexus 4 than the Nexus 7. I'm having a hard time believing him.

Still, if true, that's curious. Even without LTE, when they announced that pricing, the first thing I thought was holy crap this thing is going to sell out quick. With 4.2, a mature ecosystem, high end features, and a $359 price tag, this was bound to do well. Plus there was the Nexus 7, which has proven to be popular, at close to one million units per month over several months.

OTOH, I do have to wonder how many units they had for sale. A few hundred for Canada and a few thousand for the US? Or even less?
 

preslove

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Nate Swanner keeps saying they totally underestimated demand for the Nexus 4:

https://plus.google.com/106515095432315677569/posts/fAA6PNbUxCK?authuser

Maybe, but then again he says they have better production for the Nexus 4 than the Nexus 7. I'm having a hard time believing him.

Still, if true, that's curious. Even without LTE, when they announced that pricing, the first thing I thought was holy crap this thing is going to sell out quick. With 4.2, a mature ecosystem, high end features, and a $359 price tag, this was bound to do well. Plus there was the Nexus 7, which has proven to be popular, at close to one million units per month over several months.

OTOH, I do have to wonder how many units they had for sale. A few hundred for Canada and a few thousand for the US? Or even less?

They had one server! This was a fiasco. They should have just had pre-orders. They could have audited the orders with more time.
 

Eug

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They had one server! This was a fiasco. They should have just had pre-orders. They could have audited the orders with more time.
I don't believe that either. Google has one server for this?

Perhaps they had one small server group for this in North America, and underestimated the potential load (even despite their experience with the Nexus 7), but just one server? I'm not network admin, but somehow that just doesn't make any sense to me.
 

dagamer34

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Well, I don't think they've ever had Google Play tested to this level for a physical product. There's no such thing as "running out of software", but with hardware, you have to actually check and make sure you have the device in stock before buying. Thousands of requests at a time will slow down any server if not designed correctly.

Maybe Google will learn to do a PRE-ORDER next time. Separate ordering the device with actually buying it so that people don't have to worry about people ordering multiple credit card charges because servers have gone wonky.
 

Eug

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They had pre-orders with the Nexus 7 and they screwed up that launch too.
 
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Well like I said before, let's not forget the iPhone 4S prelaunch crashed servers and it was pretty much unusable until 2.5 hours later or so. This was at midnight. But to be fair I'm pretty sure there were a lot more people preordering the iPhone compared to the Nexus 4.

Still, I think this is a publicity stunt for Google. They never really ramped manufacturing that much, and to be sold out for them for even 10,000 units is a victory.

Edit: disappointed that orders haven't shipped out yet... Friday is looking less and less bleak.
 
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Fire&Blood

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Well like I said before, let's not forget the iPhone 4S prelaunch crashed servers and it was pretty much unusable until 2.5 hours later or so. This was at midnight. But to be fair I'm pretty sure there were a lot more people preordering the iPhone compared to the Nexus 4.

Still, I think this is a publicity stunt for Google. They never really ramped manufacturing that much, and to be sold out for them for even 10,000 units is a victory.

LOL a publicity stunt? Do you dislike them that much that you resort to borderline paranoid theories? Why would you bother with their products if you perceive them capable of stooping that low?

The negative experience users went through with ordering far outweighs anything that they would have gained. There were far slicker methods if they wanted to pull that off and considering what the Nexus devices are, it's laughable to even assume these conspiracy theories. Yeah, they would go for a clumsy method just to fabricate the "sold out" news, all the while forgetting to present the Nexus 10 16GB as sould out...
 

Eug

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The iPhone 4S sold a million units the first day. I wonder if North America hit even 10000 units of the Nexus 4 the first day. Or first 10 minutes, as it were.

And I don't think it was a publicity stunt. It was just not handled so well.
 

zerocool84

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The iPhone 4S sold a million units the first day. I wonder if North America hit even 10000 units of the Nexus 4 the first day. Or first 10 minutes, as it were.

And I don't think it was a publicity stunt. It was just not handled so well.

Well these really aren't mass consumer devices compared to something like the Galaxy S3 or iPhone, maybe they didn't expect this much of demand.
 

Sind

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I haven't really seen any major media sites mentioning the sell out yesterday at all, so if it was a stunt it backfired that way.

In any case it was terrible how it was handled in my opinion. I'm sorry you can't escape with the "totally underestimated demand" line, when viable data was available from those who signed up for email notice, that should have given them a gauge of what to expect. That's on top of what they should have learned during the N7 launch.

I really doubt any sales numbers will be released from yesterday as it would bring to light just how light stock was. To have "demand" underestimated so much is absurd, there just wasn't enough product to begin with and that's what they aren't mentioning.

I snagged a N10-16gb after I lost out 3 times to the N4 erroring out during my order and having it removed from by cart 3x, which was my backup plan as I was totally expecting a debacle like exactly what happened.

If your going to sell hardware do your research properly and be relatively prepared and learn from past experiences (N7 launch). None of that has happened in the past 4 months apparently as we all witnessed.

PS: Never did get an email letting me know of the N4/10's release yesterday lol.
 

Fire&Blood

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Well these really aren't mass consumer devices compared to something like the Galaxy S3 or iPhone, maybe they didn't expect this much of demand.

I was expecting them to have more inventory for world wide sales, not necessarily here in the US. I mean, in many markets where LTE is irrelevant and consumers are used to paying a lot outright for phones, the $300 Nexus has way more appeal than over here. Other than Apple, no one does/can round up inventory like Apple does.
~1 million is frequently thrown number for the GNex. Nexus 4? World wide, much strong sales that won't fade away quite as fast as they likely will in the US, guesstimate ~25 mil units sold elsewhere in the world by the time next one comes out. Sounds like a lot but really just a fraction of the market. ~2mil by end of the year in the US, another mil until the next one launches.

I haven't really seen any major media sites mentioning the sell out yesterday at all, so if it was a stunt it backfired that way.

In any case it was terrible how it was handled in my opinion. I'm sorry you can't escape with the "totally underestimated demand" line, when viable data was available from those who signed up for email notice, that should have given them a gauge of what to expect. That's on top of what they should have learned during the N7 launch.

I really doubt any sales numbers will be released from yesterday as it would bring to light just how light stock was. To have "demand" underestimated so much is absurd, there just wasn't enough product to begin with and that's what they aren't mentioning.

I snagged a N10-16gb after I lost out 3 times to the N4 erroring out during my order and having it removed from by cart 3x, which was my backup plan as I was totally expecting a debacle like exactly what happened.

If your going to sell hardware do your research properly and be relatively prepared and learn from past experiences (N7 launch). None of that has happened in the past 4 months apparently as we all witnessed.

PS: Never did get an email letting me know of the N4/10's release yesterday lol.

Agreed. I also don't think LG was much motivated for production, first because of being busy making their own stuff (that BTW isn't selling as well) and because of lack of financial incentive to ramp up production for device that makes them ~$200 less per unit.
I got the notification e-mail about hour and a half after I ordered.


Google Now would have managed this launch better than Google did.
 
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Fire&Blood

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My 16gb has an 11/16 shipping estimate. I guess I won't get it this week. Oh well.

The very first line in the receipt states "You will not be charged until your order has shipped." They better get it straightened out. Just a few days they were in the news for experimental same day delivery trials, to fail with "pedestrian" methods makes them look bad. Still hoping for a Friday delivery maybe there is a delay with tracking info notifications much like the "notify me" deal.
 

ponyo

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I still don't have any shipping estimate. I wonder if ordering the N10 with N4 has anything to do with it.
 
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