Official BCS Championship game #1 Ohio State v. #2 Florida Thread

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mpitts

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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

that is the stupidest argument.


just because one system is imperfect it does NOT mean it is not better than another imperfect system.

the BCS system is a JOKE.

and a playoff system would somehow fix all that is wrong with the BCS?

I'd like to see USC, Wisconsin, Boise State or LSU get a shot at a championship.

And yes.. A playoff, implemented properly, can resolve a LOT of what is wrong with the BCS.
 

pyonir

Lifer
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It should have been Florida/Texas Tech! Obviously TT deserves to be there cause how many teams can come from behind by 31 and win the game!?!?!


(i'm kidding you dolts)
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

that is the stupidest argument.


just because one system is imperfect it does NOT mean it is not better than another imperfect system.

the BCS system is a JOKE.

and a playoff system would somehow fix all that is wrong with the BCS?

only a moron thinks only a perfect solution can replace an imperfect one.

face it, no one actually thinks the bcs system (including bcs officials) is better than a playoff system, they only use it because it is the best they can manage as a compromise.

 

R Nilla

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Originally posted by: GrimmRimmer

And honestly, there wouldn't be any crappy teams in the playoffs. If there were, then they would be eliminated eventually (else they wouldn't be crappy).

ideally yes, but in all likelihood no. you've never seen an upset in college football?
 

mpitts

Lifer
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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: GrimmRimmer
Originally posted by: R Nilla
a playoff is not the answer, I don't understand why anyone thinks it is.

Yeah... every other sport is wrong...

yeah all sports are exactly the same...

You mean like football?

Division 1-AA FOOTBALL.. Division II FOOTBALL.. NFL FOOTBALL.. HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!

how could I be so ignorant, clearly a playoff would magically reveal the #1 without a doubt in anyone's mind. there's no chance that some lesser team would fluke through and win or take out a better team during the course of the playoffs, because that never happens...

And you don't think there is anything flukey about THIS game?

yeah, the fluke is there has been a over a month since the last team either team played a game, far longer than any period in-between their regular season games. Otherwise, both teams finished their regular seasons well enough to qualify for this game.

Which you could avoid with a playoff..

You know full well that a big part of the issues with Division 1-A lie with money. That is why this game, that never used to exist, is the only game on TV right now.
 

GrimmRimmer

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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: GrimmRimmer

And honestly, there wouldn't be any crappy teams in the playoffs. If there were, then they would be eliminated eventually (else they wouldn't be crappy).

ideally yes, but in all likelihood no. you've never seen an upset in college football?

Of course, but the likelihood of several upsets in a row is slim.
 

mpitts

Lifer
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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: GrimmRimmer

And honestly, there wouldn't be any crappy teams in the playoffs. If there were, then they would be eliminated eventually (else they wouldn't be crappy).

ideally yes, but in all likelihood no. you've never seen an upset in college football?

So then let's take the #1 and #2 teams in college basketball and have them play each other as soon as the season ends. Forget the tournament.

 

R Nilla

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

that is the stupidest argument.


just because one system is imperfect it does NOT mean it is not better than another imperfect system.

the BCS system is a JOKE.

and a playoff system would somehow fix all that is wrong with the BCS?

only a moron thinks only a perfect solution can replace an imperfect one.

face it, no one actually thinks the bcs system (including bcs officials) is better than a playoff system, they only use it because it is the best they can manage as a compromise.

I see we've resorted to juvenile insults. A playoff system would dramatically impact college football, more so than moving from the old school polling system to the BCS has done.
 

R Nilla

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Originally posted by: mpitts

So then let's take the #1 and #2 teams in college basketball and have them play each other as soon as the season ends. Forget the tournament.

never mind the fact that basketball != football, and that there are far more regular season games in basketball than there are football.
 

mpitts

Lifer
Jun 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

that is the stupidest argument.


just because one system is imperfect it does NOT mean it is not better than another imperfect system.

the BCS system is a JOKE.

and a playoff system would somehow fix all that is wrong with the BCS?

only a moron thinks only a perfect solution can replace an imperfect one.

face it, no one actually thinks the bcs system (including bcs officials) is better than a playoff system, they only use it because it is the best they can manage as a compromise.

I see we've resorted to juvenile insults. A playoff system would dramatically impact college football, more so than moving from the old school polling system to the BCS has done.

What is the impact?
 

waggy

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I would love to see a playoff form happen. right now i don't think the best end up playing the best.

also it tends to exclude to many schools.
 

mpitts

Lifer
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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: mpitts

So then let's take the #1 and #2 teams in college basketball and have them play each other as soon as the season ends. Forget the tournament.

never mind the fact that basketball != football, and that there are far more regular season games in basketball then there are football.

Why does that matter? Why should that have any affect on anything? You just take the human voters and their polls, decide who's opinion is correct and play the game. Why should teams that are not rated #1 or #2 in the nation in a poll dictated by bias and opinion get a shot?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: spidey07
I honestly can't believe OSU is getting beat this bad.

OWNED. Flat out OWNED. And to think I didn't think FL didn't deserve it.

Reason #1,567 why we need a playoff.

See my post.

I said Florida would rule and this BCS system is just the sucks.

Boise State deserves the National Title (Super Bowl of College)
 

R Nilla

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one of my gripes with a playoff is that football has traditionally been about winning your conference and beating your rivals, now all of a sudden everyone wants to try and indisputably determine the #1 team in the nation. right now every game matters, one loss could devastate your entire season. also, if we implement a playoff, certainly we will have teams face off again who already played in the regular season. wasn't that something that people were up in arms against this year?
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

that is the stupidest argument.


just because one system is imperfect it does NOT mean it is not better than another imperfect system.

the BCS system is a JOKE.

and a playoff system would somehow fix all that is wrong with the BCS?

only a moron thinks only a perfect solution can replace an imperfect one.

face it, no one actually thinks the bcs system (including bcs officials) is better than a playoff system, they only use it because it is the best they can manage as a compromise.

I see we've resorted to juvenile insults. A playoff system would dramatically impact college football, more so than moving from the old school polling system to the BCS has done.

What is the impact?

this is not to argue against you mpitt, you just happened to be the last one to thread this line of posts.


the biggest issue with a playoff system in NCAA div 1 basketball is that the regular season has pretty much become irrelevant except for seeding. which isn't entirely a bad thing.

in NCAA div 1 football, it wouldn't be the same, the thing is, college football you only play 11 to 13 games during the regular season depending on conference playoffs etc, so even if the games are just for the purpose of seeding, each game will still be seen as much more significant than a single ncaa basketball game.

a playoff system with the top 8 teams or the top 16 teams would be amazing in football, you could even eliminate the conference playoffs in order to make this feasible.

the problem with the bcs system is, a team like boise state would never be given an opportunity, to use an analogy from another sport, without a playoff type system, a miracle at lake placid never happens.

was it a fluke, sure, the russian team vs the usa team, let them play 100 times the russians will win 99, but that 1 time is HUGE and is amazing to watch.

that cannot happen in college football right now and that is a travesty.
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Talk about overrrated and OSU, they had everyone fooled.

Thats why I usually called them Overrated Shoes University!
 

mpitts

Lifer
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Originally posted by: R Nilla
one of my gripes with a playoff is that football has traditionally been about winning your conference and beating your rivals, now all of a sudden everyone wants to try and indisputably determine the #1 team in the nation. right now every game matters, one loss could devastate your entire season. also, if we implement a playoff, certainly we will have teams face off again who already played in the regular season. wasn't that something that people were up in arms against this year?

One loss doesn't devastate your season. Florida lost. Boise State didn't lose.

It wouldn't be any different than it was this year other than the teams that won their BCS bowl games would move on.

How awesome would next week's matchups be? LSU v USC and Boise State v. Florida.

I'd watch that.
 

LSUfan

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Chris Leak is having good game. 15 minutes left to play. Anything could happen. Florida's defense is proving themself. OSU is not out of it yet. Let's get back to the game at hand. BCS should be another topic/thread!
 

Parrotheader

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Milk the clock a little and this game's over (and that's probably being way overly cautious at that.)

Florida's defense has played extremely well tonight. Not too shocking. That defensive front was the best in a league full of great defensive fronts.
 

Lifted

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The problems playoffs in college football have been argued to death. From coaches keep their best players out of the later games when they have a spot in the playoffs locked to position that there would be too many games and these boys are in school to learn, not spend all year playing sports. They are both valid points and thus polling and BCS is what we have for the time being. Something better may come along, but I don't think we will ever see college football playoffs.
 

tfinch2

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Now that Florida basically has this wrapped up, does Boise State deserve part of the national championship?
 

pyonir

Lifer
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I love the "Boise State should be National Champs!" guys....cause they barely beat OU...barely. and who else did they play all year? Fresno State? Oregon State? big deal. Florida had to beat LSU, lost to a good AUburn team, played Tenn and Arkansas. LOL
 
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