***OFFICIAL*** BF2 DEMO Review Thread

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Golgatha

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Jul 18, 2003
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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Golgatha
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Golgatha
Even the key assignments are buggy?! This is why I hate it when people pre-order stuff. It basically says to the publisher, "hey, release it in any state and I'll still buy it!". We as gamers need to expect a whole lot more from publishers. I'm very disappointed in the current state of this game and will probably wait until it is in the $20 bargain bin and finished via patches about a year from now.

That's the way EA does business. Aside from that... I'm not very impressed by the game... It's Desert Combat with slightly better graphics. Seriously. Of course there's a few new features, but I really don't see anything impressive here. The people still look extremely awkward when they move... not even in the same league as HL2/CS:S... or even Far Cry for that matter.

I'll take some screenshots...


That is certainly the way EA has been doing business for the last few years. We're sure to see overpriced, useless expansions and any great mods (thinking of DC here) bought up and made into a new product (and then see the original mod creators get fired once the buggy mess of what used to be good, gets released for a public beta).

Edit: Thinking that I still haven't finished Doom 3 yet, so there's plenty of time to wait for this game to get patched.

Doom III has to be one of most stable games I've ever played, thats quality. Any machine in the world can run that game and you can still actually play it! I never had a single crash or any bugs found through the entire game. Not a single one.

I enjoyed Desert Combat more than this current demo, it keeps booting me for a Win32 error. Anyone know how to fix this?

I was playing on the resolution right before 1280x960, but when I goto 1280x960 it sretches ALL across my Dell 2005FP (1680x1050) anyone know a solution to this? All of the other resolution are boxed in my monitor with enough black boarders.



I think ID software is pretty quality. Heck, they even removed the need for a CD check with their last patch to Doom 3. They have also made the game engines for most of my favorite games of all time. I'm just hopeing Quake 4 is as quality as Doom 3, since it isn't being done by ID themselves.
 

Golgatha

Lifer
Jul 18, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: Sanius
Not having fun with this game. geforce 6800, 512 mb ddr pc2700 ram, amd 2500. lag city on medium settings. jesus...even with all background programs off, did virus/adware/spyware checks, and defragged. I hate pc gaming. can anyone tell me if any (free) ways of getting this game to stop being so stupid with my ram? hell, if I quit the game, it still stays in memory. 200 megs of bf2.exe just sitting there in my processes. I have to hard-kill it.


You need way more memory. 1GB is minimum, 2GB is best.

Definately need more memory... I'm guessing faster memory and a faster processor would help quite a bit too.


2500+ should be plenty fast, but more memory will definitely help.
 

Golgatha

Lifer
Jul 18, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: JBT
The game lets me use 1600x1200 just fine using Cat 5.5's. I have had no lock ups or issues like that. Shadows do look god awful, but thats really about it. My only problem is lack of widescreen support and even editing the files that would normally change this sends you back to the desktop if you choose such a resolution.

Well it IS a demo... it's not a full featured release.


They're less than 2weeks away from retail. This demo should be pretty indicative of retail "quality". I'm sure as hell not paying to be a beta tester.
 

Sniper82

Lifer
Feb 6, 2000
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Played a few matchs at 1280x960@70hz high quality on everything but texture and no FSAA. It is unplayable with texture set to high. It's playable at the settings I used but thats with 16 players. Running 3200+ 64,6600GT and 1gb memory.

Heres some screens:
http://img152.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0003uf.jpg
http://img152.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0019by.jpg
http://img152.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0023gu.jpg

as you all can see this game could def use some FSAA. I might try dropping the res and adding some FSAA and see how it looks.

EDIT:this is 1024x768@85hz high everything but texture and has 4x AA I can see a difference and has zero slowdown:

http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0000bg.jpg
http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0016gi.jpg
http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0025yd.jpg
http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0035um.jpg
http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen0057qj.jpg

BTW is the texture setting to high limited by me only having 1gb of memory or only have 128mb video?
 

microAmp

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Jul 5, 2000
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Just briefly played a single player round, but had to be disappointed in setting up my controls the way I like to.

In any FPS game I play, I use the left mouse button to move forward, A/D for strafe and S to backup. Though it'll let me use forward with my left mouse button, it removes the the backwards S, put S in for backwards, removes my forward button
 

JBT

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
BTW is the texture setting to high limited by me only having 1gb of memory or only have 128mb video?

I would say 128 video memory. Because high works fine for me and I've got a GB.
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: microAmp
Just briefly played a single player round, but had to be disappointed in setting up my controls the way I like to.

In any FPS game I play, I use the left mouse button to move forward, A/D for strafe and S to backup. Though it'll let me use forward with my left mouse button, it removes the the backwards S, put S in for backwards, removes my forward button

You use the left mouse button???? How the hell did you start doing that? Every FPS I've ever played has used WASD for movement and the left mouse button for the primary fire or primary action button.
 

KeithP

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Jun 15, 2000
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Well it seems to be working okay on my set up (XP 3200, 6800GT, 1GB RAM). Running@1024x768 (85hz). I did not install the drivers it came with however.

I am having a terrible time with aircraft control.

Seems like it could be a fun game.

-KeithP
 

Sforsyth

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I don't get the jets that float up, Runs fine on my computer XP3200, 512 MB RAM and Sapphire Rad. 9600 Pro Advantage edition 256 MB Video Card, setting on low but runs and looks good.
 

larry89

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Feb 8, 2005
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everytime i fly an aircraft i just end up suicide bombing the enemy since I suck so much at controlling them.
 

Sniper82

Lifer
Feb 6, 2000
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Originally posted by: larry89
everytime i fly an aircraft i just end up suicide bombing the enemy since I suck so much at controlling them.


How do you choose to spawn and a ship to use planes and stuff?
 

larry89

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Feb 8, 2005
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you just click on the points on the map where it shows ur current spawn points (shown by your nations flag) Spawn on the Aircraft carrier, go up to the cockpit of a vehicle and press "E" to enter it.

I like flying the commacache with 5 other people just flying in circles letting them shoot the hell out of the ground then crashing into that giant crane and watching all of us fall out and die a pitiful unfulfilling demonic death.



BTW: Any having a problem with punkbuster? everytime I play in a server I get kicked from it and the problem is "RESTRICTION: empty win32 module list" ?? what the hell?
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
Originally posted by: larry89
everytime i fly an aircraft i just end up suicide bombing the enemy since I suck so much at controlling them.


How do you choose to spawn and a ship to use planes and stuff?

you must first make sure the map is set for 32 people, i first tried it with only 10 or 16 and you could not get to the carrier, the map grows according to the amount of people
 

JBT

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
Originally posted by: larry89
everytime i fly an aircraft i just end up suicide bombing the enemy since I suck so much at controlling them.


How do you choose to spawn and a ship to use planes and stuff?

join the US army. While your playing hit enter and click on the farthest to south spawn point and either wait till you die or commit suicide.
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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i need to play @ 800x600 w 2xAA or 1024x768 w/ no AA to get good framerates. what is the code to show the fps?
 

LocutusX

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: FluxCap
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Here's my review... EA is still a bunch of douchebags. Don't try playing the game with anything other than a 60 Hz refresh rate... :roll:

Plays fine at 70hz for me.

With my screen set at 1024x768 @ 85 Hz the game won't load... I have to set it to 60 Hz, then the game will load and let me chose from some really fvcked up resolutions... 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 1152x864 @ 75 Hz... and I think 1280x960 @ 60 Hz, which is a fine resolution, but why limit the refresh rates? That's retarded.

Perhaps that is just an issue with NV drivers/hardware? I have my ATI machine's desktop @ 1152x864x85 and I can run the game at that rez as well, but I've put it down to 1024x768x85 for now... working fine. No CTD or BSOD or hangings.

Seems to be a lot of fun so far... I might pick it up if there are any release-date hot deals that are 20$ below MSRP or whatever...
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Indeed, the demo is bug-city, but still enjoyable. First thought was kind of odd when I looked at the available resolutions. I was hoping to be able to pick 1680x1050, but 1024x768 @ 75Hz was my finest option. There was another, 11**x8** something, but I don't care much for resolutions other than the regular.

Ok, well, I picked 10x7@75, and went on my merry way. The intial load took atleast 5-6 minutes, as it was "optimizing" my shaders or whatnot. After it finally did that, and tried to connect to the server I had picked, it just sat there and sat there and sat there. I had to quit out, then come back. Once I did this, it loaded fine. I spawned on the battleship, and from here it was confusing. Not having played BF1942 for months/years, I felt a little disoriented. Add to that the clipping going on everywhere, and textures popping in and out. This continued throughout my play with the game, but I soon became used to it.

These are my bullet-point thoughts:
  • Buggy texturing, this needs to be fixed.
  • Netcode is initially laggy as hell. Frequently hopping around in a 20 foot circle on a server which tells me I have a 35 ping.
  • Once again, the netcode needs to be fixed to allow better aiming. I unloaded a clip into a guy running circles around me, and never killed him. Trust me, I should have been hitting him.
  • Vehicles are hard to drive, as they are buggy as well. Controls aren't tight enough, you just don't have much control with the driving aspect.
  • What's with the bouncy fvcking camera while driving? Go over the slightest bump, and your view shifts violently up and down, overexaggerting the feeling of being inside.
  • Now to the good stuff, the weapons have a nice punch to them. The reload animations are great, and the control feels tight when shooting.
  • What can't I cook a grenade? Or atleast hold it before I throw it, just to have it ready when I pop around a corner? Might be something I'm missing, though.
  • I love the animations of the flag going up and down the post when takeovers are taking place.
  • I love being able to call for a medic while my spawn counter is timing down.
  • Freaking spawn is sometimes buggy. More than a few times, when the timer hit 0, I did not respawn, only was kept staring at my dead body.
  • Trying to right-click to choose a new class and spawn point is also buggy as hell. I often was unable to change parameters while waiting to spawn after death.
  • Do not go into a level, and immediately try to fly over the map very quickly, unless you have a top-of-the-line computer. I did this, and everything was too slow to load, therefore choppy as hell, therefore I crashed into something in mid-air. Game couldn't take it apparently.
  • The commanders seemed to be non-existant, but will hopefully become more useful once the best of the best come out of the woodwork.
At first, I was consistently at the bottom of the ranks after each match, but I slowly went up and up, eventually taking 2nd place with 3 takeovers, 11 kills, and 5 deaths. Decent stuff, but the current bugs in the demo make me try too hard to like it. I do, in fact like it, but hopefully the demo isn't respresentative of the final product coming out. If so, god speed to EA in getting a patch out quickly to resolve the most glaring bugs and issues.

turn down the shadows to fix the "texture clipping" problems.
 

Sniper82

Lifer
Feb 6, 2000
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Why is it when I try to create a account to go online it says the email/password already excises? I've tried different nicks.
 

LocutusX

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Oct 9, 1999
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Maybe their servers are getting really clobbered?

When I tried playing BF2 online, the moment the demo was released, it was working really well.

But today it's been pretty sh!tty... I have to assume it's due to the overload caused by everyone trying it out.

i.e. Earlier I got the message "bad password" even though I only ever entered my password ONCE then selected the "save password" option.
Tried again and it worked.
 

Insomniak

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Sep 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: JBT
Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
BTW is the texture setting to high limited by me only having 1gb of memory or only have 128mb video?

I would say 128 video memory. Because high works fine for me and I've got a GB.



I run textures on high and have 1GB and 128MB card. You should be able to do it, just don't expect to run everything else on high too.
 

Sniper82

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: JBT
Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
BTW is the texture setting to high limited by me only having 1gb of memory or only have 128mb video?

I would say 128 video memory. Because high works fine for me and I've got a GB.



I run textures on high and have 1GB and 128MB card. You should be able to do it, just don't expect to run everything else on high too.



what settings you using? What does having textures on high make it look alot better?
 
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Originally posted by: fisher
turn down the shadows to fix the "texture clipping" problems.
Actually, I installed the updated nVidia drivers included with the demo, and it fixed that problem for me. Although I hate being forced to update to drivers that are unproven yet, I'll make an exception for the few times it happens.
 

Fokks

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Originally posted by: djmihow
Anyone try this with a Geforce 4 4200?


The game will not run on GF4's.

From the readme.txt file that comes with the demo:

Battlefield 2 only supports the following video cards:
Radeon X700 (PCIe)
Radeon X600 (PCIe)
GeForce 6600 (PCIe)
GeForce PCX 5900 (PCIe)
GeForce 5800 Series (AGP)
ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition
ATI Radeon X800 PRO
ATI Radeon 9800 Series
ATI Radeon 9600 Series
ATI Radeon 9550 (RV350LX)
ATI Radeon 9500 / 9700 Series
ATI Radeon 8500 Series
ATI Radeon X300 Series
NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
NVidia GeForce 6800 GT
NVidia GeForce 6800
NVidia GeForce FX 5950 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5900 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5700 Series
 
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