Intel didn't have a net burst moment. It's not like they had a sudden onset of sanity. Banias was in the pipeline the whole time. Once net burst could no longer be sustained, they switched over.
AMD has no Banias to fall back on. They put all their eggs in the bulldozer basket.
Not talking about paying for the actual electricity, but rather the need to buy a considerably higher-output power supply vs. an equally-configured Intel box.
I have a hard time beliewing this is the thing for the server side, but looking forward for the Johan review.
Not talking about paying for the actual electricity, but rather the need to buy a considerably higher-output power supply vs. an equally-configured Intel box.
Really just a 2500k with a moderate air overclock hands BD it's ass in virtually everything, and spending an extra $30-$40 for a quality PSU that will handle the extra 200+w of load for an OC'd BD is just insane.
where the hell are you buying your power supplies? extremely overpowered supplies are available all the time for under $100.
Its pretty much the worst x86 cpu ever.
Not talking about paying for the actual electricity, but rather the need to buy a considerably higher-output power supply vs. an equally-configured Intel box.
And you still get more heat and some apps that just nosedive on BD.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/11
no wonder power consumption is that high :'(
AMD had to patch Win 7 and bring new apps along the FX release or,
Postpone the FX line for a year along with Win 8 launch and release a 32nm 8 core Thuban today
where the hell are you buying your power supplies? extremely overpowered supplies are available all the time for under $100.
Power supplies are cheap as hell no matter what.
Heat. Another thing I don't care about.
Current AM3+ owners had just got totally trolled by AMD.
Hahaha I think you're just trolling us.
Hot? Needs more expensive power supply? Slow? Sucks more juice?
NONE OF THIS MATTERS! I WANT A SLOWER SYSTEM DAMNIT!
lol
There's no incentive to buy this thing. None. Sucks.
For AM3+ owners
And for some reason you refuse to acknowledge where I said I'd consider getting one if the priced dropped. You mysteriously keep forgetting to mention what I actually said when you make your little caricatures of my comments.
This guy is on his high horse be on the look out hes gonna defend Bulldozer to the death .
Honestly unless your rocking a dual core amd ...there is NOT a damn thing appealing about this...the overpriced x4 980 appeals to me more then this and that says a lot .
There would be if AMD bothered to send hardware to the only reviewer that uses Linux...I thought about that few month back, if Windows would actually recognize modules or not (it does "know" about HT). I'm not sure if I actually asked JF_AMD about it back then in one off those 1000 BD threads. But this is so FAIL. I mean they worked 5 years on this thing and not a single person talked to Microsoft or thought about scheduling in general? Just EPIC FAIL...because even for me it was obvious the approach AMD chose heavily depends on cpu scheduling.
Are there any benches on Linux? maybe it performs better there (or even worse).
Are those 994 Mio transistors in SB for the cores only or do they include the GPU? If yes, that would make it even sicker. More than double the transistors for less performance.
Because I said I might get one if it was cheaper I'm "defending Bulldozer to the death"?
You don't think you're twisting what I said just a little?
andThe OS doesn't know about modules, it only sees cores. But all cores are physical cores, so it won't matter.
It's noteworthy that the guy quoted in that post foresaw possible issues with scheduling. AMD obviously thought otherwise...So, here's the deal - we are obviously working with the OS and app vendors
About scheduling. This is funny:
See:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31153334&postcount=255
and
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31164371&postcount=287
It's noteworthy that the guy quoted in that post foresaw possible issues with scheduling. AMD obviously thought otherwise...
Man this is like P4, just worse - what a let down for competition and future development. Is the prefetcher working - damn. I have a hard time beliewing this is the thing for the server side, but looking forward for the Johan review.