AMD completely shit the bed with this.
i'm really waiting for anand's review where he explains on one of the pages that he went to AMD with this and it's some easily added driver or something.
When the next generation amd processors come out...lets please not recommend a upgrader to wait for it either...waiting does NOT pay off..
Guys,
nobody cares about the desktop anymore. It's all about mobile devices now. AMD wants Llano and Brazos to succeed, and they designed BUlldozer for the server market.
Zambezi is crap, I just wish they would have told us that 6 months ago.
What was that about Sandy B. breaking my heart, AMD?
The only one that looks remotely interesting to me is the fx-6100. In games it isn't that far behind the 1100T, uses slightly less power, costs about the same, and probably overclocks pretty well. Also any mobo that it works in will probably work with "unbroken" BD chips down the line. That said looks like my brothers and I might be going Intel this time around. I just can't believe how much power these are sucking down.
It certainly matters when Trinity has Piledriver cores which is based on Bulldozer. If Bulldozer can't perform then what chances that Trinity has?Guys,
nobody cares about the desktop anymore. It's all about mobile devices now. AMD wants Llano and Brazos to succeed, and they designed BUlldozer for the server market.
+1 :thumbsup:
Saw the waiting game with FX5800 Ultra
Saw the waiting game play out with GTX470/480.
Saw the waiting game with Phenom I
Saw the waiting game with Phenom II
Saw the waiting game with Bulldozer
More times than not, when a technology product was delayed for an extended period of time, the delay generally indicated serious issues in performance, power consumption, combination, etc.
What I want to know is how we were told with a straight face by certain individuals that IPC did NOT decrease from Phenom II.....and then I read this:
"The novel Bulldozer design of the FX-8150 seems to be light on performance per core, as our image editing test shows. This test is single-threaded, and the FX-8150 fared extremely poorly with a stock-speed score of 887. To put that into context, a Core 2 Duo E6700 is 13 per cent faster and a Core i5-2500K is almost twice as fast as the FX-8150 in this kind of situation."
nobody cares about the desktop anymore. It's all about mobile devices now. AMD wants Llano and Brazos to succeed, and they designed BUlldozer for the server market.
http://newsroom.intel.com/community...ntel-reports-first-11-billion-revenue-quarter
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The trend of course is to ever-higher sales of components for mobile devices, but desktop and laptop parts are critical to the financial health of both Intel and AMD.
The GTX 460 was a crap card, but at $100 it is actually still the best deal on the market.
+1 :thumbsup:
Saw the waiting game with FX5800 Ultra
Saw the waiting game play out with GTX470/480.
Saw the waiting game with Phenom I
Saw the waiting game with Phenom II
Saw the waiting game with Bulldozer
More times than not, when a technology product was delayed for an extended period of time, the delay generally indicated serious issues in performance, power consumption, combination, etc.
What I want to know is how we were told with a straight face by certain individuals that IPC did NOT decrease from Phenom II.....and then I read this:
"The novel Bulldozer design of the FX-8150 seems to be light on performance per core, as our image editing test shows. This test is single-threaded, and the FX-8150 fared extremely poorly with a stock-speed score of 887. To put that into context, a Core 2 Duo E6700 is 13 per cent faster and a Core i5-2500K is almost twice as fast as the FX-8150 in this kind of situation."
Worse IPC than a 2006 Core 2 Duo E6700
Cost more then a 2500k
uses more energy then a 2500k
slower in about all cases then a 2500k
Is this amd's idea of a pratical joke?
You cant possibly be serious????? with power consumtion like this its going to be a bigger flop in the server market than it is in the desktop market.
Honestly, all of us should be seriously worried about AMD at this point. If Haswell adds another 15-20% IPC increase by 2013, lower power consumption, there might not be an AMD CPU division.
This is by far the most painful and insulting thing about it.
Take PhII, drop to 32nm, increase caches, bus speed, core clock, and stick 8 cores together, and at 4ghz+ you have a pretty damned solid chip. Maybe not enough to dethrone the Intel chips, but a very well rounded product that would likely eat Intel for lunch on multithreaded stuff, and not lag too badly in single-threaded at all.
BD? What a pile.