*OFFICIAL* Clippers vs. Suns Thread

her209

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LOL @ the commentators... they're still talking about the Lakers... :laugh:
 

OneOfTheseDays

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the Suns are playing absolutely phenomenal. they simply do not miss shots, the Clippers played a VERY good game today and still got beat. they just have to hope the Suns catch a cold streak if they want to beat them.
 

TheGenius

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What a good game. Now this is basketball. (Unlike Kobe hogging the ball, which is amusing but... not basketball).
 

OneOfTheseDays

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they will always have a team good enough to make it to the second/third round of playoffs but they will never knock of the Spurs/Pistons/Mavericks because of their horrid defense. you can't shoot perfectly forever, you have to be able to win games with your defense when your offense just isn't working.
 

SP33Demon

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Wow great game for PHO... I picked the Clips to win in 5, but PHO has been unstoppable.
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: TheGenius
ROFL@ Charles Barkley

haha, he rambled on for so long about Kobe calling him...completely unecessary. Ben Gordon looked a little bit nervous in front of the cameras, I felt sorry for him.

amazing game 1, elton brand was a beast down low but phoenix just played excellent basketball.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: TheGenius
ROFL@ Charles Barkley

haha, he rambled on for so long about Kobe calling him...completely unecessary. Ben Gordon looked a little bit nervous in front of the cameras, I felt sorry for him.

amazing game 1, elton brand was a beast down low but phoenix just played excellent basketball.
What did he say?

 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: TheGenius
ROFL@ Charles Barkley

haha, he rambled on for so long about Kobe calling him...completely unecessary. Ben Gordon looked a little bit nervous in front of the cameras, I felt sorry for him.

amazing game 1, elton brand was a beast down low but phoenix just played excellent basketball.
What did he say?

He kept repeating some BS about "not having an agenda" and that he just speaks his mind when he criticizes people and that he respected Kobe for calling him about the comments he made. He rambled on for a good 5 minutes and repeated the agenda thing about 200000000000 times. It wasn't anything worthwhile.

btw, anyone remember the dunk by Marion to put the suns up 68-65 (following the Nash 3 pointer to put them up by 1 )? That was an amazing play.
 

Miramonti

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I'm still in therapy trying to get over Jerry Krause trading Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler. :|

He's one of the most solid, hard working players in the nba, and probably has the highest caliber character in the league.

GO CLIPS.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: jjsole
I'm still in therapy trying to get over Jerry Krause trading Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler. :|

He's one of the most solid, hard working players in the nba, and probably has the highest caliber character in the league.

GO CLIPS.

Wasn't he traded because he was unhappy?
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: jjsole
I'm still in therapy trying to get over Jerry Krause trading Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler. :|

He's one of the most solid, hard working players in the nba, and probably has the highest caliber character in the league.

GO CLIPS.

Wasn't he traded because he was unhappy?

Not at all. Noone was happy about the bulls losing ways but he never complained, just played harder. Krause justified the trade by saying that Brand, who had one more year on his rookie contract, wouldn't likely be willing to re-sign with them and traded him instead of losing him to the free agent market and getting nothing in return. Krause also wanted to draft Eddie Curry and didn't think two strong low post players that wanted the ball could co-exist well.

Brand was shocked and hurt when he was traded on draft day but was a professional about it. He said he thought he never thought he would be traded but knew it was a business. He also said that its not true that he wouldn't have been willing to re-sign, and felt that things could have worked out fine playing together with Curry. (I took from this that if they paid him what the clippers did, the max, it would have been a no-brainer that he'd stay)

Drafting Brand #1 overall was one of the best decisions ever (probably one of the easiest ever), but trading him for Chandler was one of the worst decisions ever. (and when it didn't payoff with chandler and the bulls still sucked, it helped send Krause out the door.)
 

torpid

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Couldn't they have re-signed him before his rookie contract was up? Or is that not allowed for rookie contracts?
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: torpid
Couldn't they have re-signed him before his rookie contract was up? Or is that not allowed for rookie contracts?

Brand was drafted in the 1999 draft, and traded in the 2001 draft. The rookie contracts were 3 years, and Brand and the Bulls couldn't negotiate re-signing for another full year.

Now teams, iirc, can pick up a 4th year option on a rookie contract but not then. Brand played that third year of the contract with the clips, then signed with them for the max.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Suns win game 3 with their DEFENSE. jj, where are you? :laugh:

Didn't hear from you too much after the suns got spanked in game 3 either.

The suns played good team defense, altho the clips simply missed a lot of shots that were falling previously. Open shots weren't falling for the suns either, but they made a great effort on the boards. Overall an excellent performace from their mvp, Shawn Marion.

Cassell will be back in action tonight, and it'll go back to phoenix 2-2.
 
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