Official Destiny Thread

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I got my first blue rare last night! Some boots with an insane amount of discipline (+44 I think). Just gotta level to 10 to use em.

 

[Soccerman06]

How long do the raids and instances take in destiny? Is it standard mmo that take 4 hours or are they short and reasonable?

 

[cmdrdredd]

How long do the raids and instances take in destiny? Is it standard mmo that take 4 hours or are they short and reasonable?

Well, some of the strikes can take over an hour. I dunno about the raid.

I got my first blue rare last night! Some boots with an insane amount of discipline (+44 I think). Just gotta level to 10 to use em.

I didn't get any rares until lv15. I have bad luck lol. Always seem to have bad luck on drops.

 

[Soccerman06]

I just dont have the time to play if raids will take over maybe 2 hours, and if I played Id have to raid atleast semi hardcore. I need to know what Im getting into lol

 

[sze5003]

I just dont have the time to play if raids will take over maybe 2 hours, and if I played Id have to raid atleast semi hardcore. I need to know what Im getting into lol

I've done a strike and it took about 45 min. A raid will probably be longer. The big issue is random people may leave or drop out. I have not once noticed anyone use any type of communication though. Its more fun to play with friends for sure.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I just dont have the time to play if raids will take over maybe 2 hours, and if I played Id have to raid atleast semi hardcore. I need to know what Im getting into lol

It doesn't require the same time dedication as a traditional MMO but there is a fair bit of grinding for the next item(s), currency whatever.

 

[mnewsham]

I just dont have the time to play if raids will take over maybe 2 hours, and if I played Id have to raid atleast semi hardcore. I need to know what Im getting into lol

You might be able to speed run a raid in under 2 hours, but as it is current strikes can take 60-90 minutes depending on difficulty and which specific strike your doing. I expect the raids to be 3-4 hours if not longer. We should know more in a week or two though once people start actually doing the raid.

 

[sze5003]

You might be able to speed run a raid in under 2 hours, but as it is current strikes can take 60-90 minutes depending on difficulty and which specific strike your doing. I expect the raids to be 3-4 hours if not longer. We should know more in a week or two though once people start actually doing the raid.

Yea I'm interested in the raids too but it looks like getting a good group of people is important. I'll probably try and pick people from our bungie clan to do them with. If they are really that long I'm not sure if the controller can last a charge that long lol...I hope. I seem to need to charge mine every other day or two.

Communication will also be important too. But I guess I'll have to get to 21 before being able to go on these missions.

 

[mnewsham]

Communication will also be important too. But I guess I'll have to get to 21 before being able to go on these missions.

Need to be level 25 or 26 I think for the raid.

 

[sze5003]

Need to be level 25 or 26 I think for the raid.

Ehh then I don't think I'll make it to that with the amount of time I play. I usually go up one level each time I play if I'm lucky but I may get tired by the time I reach the cap unless I get good drops. I'm liking what I'm getting as I level up, makes it more interesting.

 

[mnewsham]

Ehh then I don't think I'll make it to that with the amount of time I play. I usually go up one level each time I play if I'm lucky but I may get tired by the time I reach the cap unless I get good drops. I'm liking what I'm getting as I level up, makes it more interesting.

Well once you hit 18-20 rare item drops become more common so there is that to look forward to.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Do I have to use weapons to level them during play? I've seen them level when I turn in bounties and complete vanguard material exchanges, but when I'm playing through the game and killing stuff does it go up more for using a particular weapon?

 

[sze5003]

Do I have to use weapons to level them during play? I've seen them level when I turn in bounties and complete vanguard material exchanges, but when I'm playing through the game and killing stuff does it go up more for using a particular weapon?

Yea it does. I was using the sniper rifle a lot and was able to upgrade two attributes on it this way just by hunting knights.

 

[Anteaus]

In hindsight, I wonder if Sony regrets dropping so much cash securing Destiny exclusive content. Sony went out of their way to push the PS4 as the superior method of playing Destiny, yet after the release of the game we find that the only real advantage of the PS4 version is the exclusive content, which to be honest, doesn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things. I'm not trying to start a system war here so please disregard that aspect. I'm bringing it up from the PR side of things. From my vantage point, it was obvious that Sony was hoping that Destiny would be the PS4's Titanfall, albeit lacking exclusivity. It appears that Destiny will follow Titanfall as a financial success but somewhat bland critically. Some have commented that in a certain context it could be a bad thing that the PS4 is selling so well relative to the XB1, yet not backing it up with content. At one point I thought Destiny would be the biggest seller of the year, but now I'm thinking the Halo MC Collection might be it. The Irony.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-destiny-xbox-one-performance-analysis

 

[sze5003]

Considering halo is like the Apple of Xbox, it's not surprising. Destiny was suppose to be something new to try on the ps4 and it's not doing too bad, it just came out so making that analysis doesn't really matter. Halo has been big since it first came out and it will continue to be.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Just because reviews aren't 10s doesn't mean the game has no players. It sold great. It's a success already.

 

[sze5003]

Seems like it did well so far from reading this. Although this means they shipped 500 million to stores and retailers. We don't know exactly how many people bought it but many have so far even for last gen systems.

Ofcourse this does not beat gta 5.

http://www.ibtimes.com/destiny-rea...record-biggest-such-franchise-launch-1685710

 

[Anteaus]

Just because reviews aren't 10s doesn't mean the game has no players. It sold great. It's a success already.

That's true to a point. The game is definitely a success from a initial commercial standpoint, at least enough of a success to satisfy Bungie; however, critical success is important for longevity. In other words, the game sold the most units when the majority of the buyers were ignorant of the overall quality of the game (beta players aside). Gamers who might be looking to buy during the holiday season are going to lean more heavily toward critical scores, so they might not sell so many units in December as they would have as it had been a critical success.

From a business standpoint, Bungie was right to embargo the reviews, because in my opinion many gamers would have adopted a "wait and see" mentality instead of buying it on day one. It would have still be a success, but possibly attenuated. They can talk all they want about reviewing the "social" side of Destiny, but I think they were spooked.

The people who participate in these forums tend to be more knowledgeable and therefore less swayed by those types of reviews, but there is a huge group of gamers out there who can be. I know I'm guilty of it. Had I saw yesterday's Gamespot review prior to buying, I would not have made the purchase. I would have waited until at least the first DLC pack to see where Bungie was taking it. Just saying.

 

[dguy6789]

In hindsight, I wonder if Sony regrets dropping so much cash securing Destiny exclusive content. Sony went out of their way to push the PS4 as the superior method of playing Destiny, yet after the release of the game we find that the only real advantage of the PS4 version is the exclusive content, which to be honest, doesn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things. I'm not trying to start a system war here so please disregard that aspect. I'm bringing it up from the PR side of things. From my vantage point, it was obvious that Sony was hoping that Destiny would be the PS4's Titanfall, albeit lacking exclusivity. It appears that Destiny will follow Titanfall as a financial success but somewhat bland critically. Some have commented that in a certain context it could be a bad thing that the PS4 is selling so well relative to the XB1, yet not backing it up with content. At one point I thought Destiny would be the biggest seller of the year, but now I'm thinking the Halo MC Collection might be it. The Irony.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-destiny-xbox-one-performance-analysis

Yup. Diablo 3 and Destiny have shown pretty clearly that the whole 720 vs 1080 fad on One and PS4 is more of a developer competency problem than a system limitation problem. Devs that are willing to do a little work can make One games run virtually identical to PS4 in visual quality and framerate.

 

[cmdrdredd]

That's true to a point. The game is definitely a success from a initial commercial standpoint, at least enough of a success to satisfy Bungie; however, critical success is important for longevity. In other words, the game sold the most units when the majority of the buyers were ignorant of the overall quality of the game (beta players aside). Gamers who might be looking to buy during the holiday season are going to lean more heavily toward critical scores, so they might not sell so many units in December as they would have as it had been a critical success.

From a business standpoint, Bungie was right to embargo the reviews, because in my opinion many gamers would have adopted a "wait and see" mentality instead of buying it on day one. It would have still be a success, but possibly attenuated. They can talk all they want about reviewing the "social" side of Destiny, but I think they were spooked.

The people who participate in these forums tend to be more knowledgeable and therefore less swayed by those types of reviews, but there is a huge group of gamers out there who can be. I know I'm guilty of it. Had I saw yesterday's Gamespot review prior to buying, I would not have made the purchase. I would have waited until at least the first DLC pack to see where Bungie was taking it. Just saying.

There was no review embargo...the servers needed to be online for anyone to even play. Nobody could play it early like a single player game. Besides that, reviewers generally play almost all of the game before they can write anything.

 

[sze5003]

When does the dlc come out? It's on sale for $35 now but I was hoping to wait and see what they add as time goes by and then decide. I'm pretty behind compared to other players so I don't know if spending the money on it will be worth it for me. I hope they do not bar people from playing together because one has it and you don't.

 

[cmdrdredd]

The first expansion is set for december, but that could change. The only thing that would be blocked if you didn't have it is the strikes, story, and raid that the expansion has as well as any new areas that might be introduced.

 

[Anteaus]

There was no review embargo...the servers needed to be online for anyone to even play. Nobody could play it early like a single player game. Besides that, reviewers generally play almost all of the game before they can write anything.

Yes there was, although it wasn't an embargo in the traditional sense. Bungie purposely (see below) withheld review copies until the day of release because they felt that the game couldn't be judged fairly without a large population. The servers were live an entire day before release but reviewers were refused access. You might say they did it to insure a fair review and that's a legit assessment, but it could just as easily be symptom of a weak game. The pre-release live servers also explain how some people hit 20 so quick...possibly they were Bungie employees who had a 24 hour head start.

In Bungie's update this week, the developer explains that it intentionally held off on sending early review copies. The reason? Too much of the experience rests on the world being populated by thousands of players, which means waiting until the game sees its full release. Evaluating it before then wouldn't really be evaluating the full game.

Bungie has formally announced the opening of the Destiny servers in advance of the game’s September 9 release. If you happen to have an early copy, you should be free to move about the solar system.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/09/08/the-destiny-servers-are-live.aspx

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/09/08/where-39-s-our-destiny-review.aspx

So, reviews of Destiny will wait for your arrival. On day one, you’ll be rubbing elbows with the pageant judges, so look sharp. Who knows, you may end up on one of their live streams. They may end up on one of yours, too!

For us, this is a first – a new experience. It’s a bit of a risk, too. We fully anticipate seeing day one reviews from folks who decide to kick the tires, but don’t have the time or patience to take our ride for a nice, long road trip. Some of you might wait to pick up a copy until you read the final verdict from your most trusted review house. We’re okay with that. We’ve created something we’re proud of.

http://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---09052014/en/News/News?aid=12096

 

[cmdrdredd]

Except people who preloaded still couldn't play on Monday. I know people who tried it. I don't think that information was accurate.

 

[Anteaus]

Except people who preloaded still couldn't play on Monday. I know people who tried it. I don't think that information was accurate.

Just because the servers were live didn't mean they would have allowed cart blache admission. It would have been quite easy for Bungie to only allow a select group of people in based on linked Bungie/PSN/XBL accounts. I bet certain Bungie employees were allowed in and maybe select MS and Sony employees.

This article implies that at least some some people will be able to get in but your right it might not be true. Whether or not any of them were general public (not likely) may not ever be known. In any case, I think my point was made. By Bungie's own admission, they withheld early copies for the specific purpose of preventing reviews. As for as I'm concerned, that's still an embargo, even if only a technical one. Walls are walls. We can argue semantics but it is what it is.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Destiny-Can-Played-Launch-Day-66927.html