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sze5003

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I hadn't heard of the 'loot cave' until this. I'm not sure how I feel about this exploit, it kind of defeats the whole point of the game's reward system.

They may patch it soon. I wanted to do that yesterday as I'm finally level 20 but I couldn't find it. I'm not really sure what to do now to get higher level. I don't usually play pvp and I still have story missions to do.
 

TheFamilyMan

Golden Member
Mar 18, 2003
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Haven't read through all the pages and posts, but can anyone chime in on what kind of community is out there for the 360 version? I've looked online for some resources but can't really gauge it as most everything out there is regarding the XB1 version.

I'm not ready to pull the trigger on an XB1 just yet...
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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I hadn't heard of the 'loot cave' until this. I'm not sure how I feel about this exploit, it kind of defeats the whole point of the game's reward system.
There is no reward system really. The whole loot system from crucible to engram's relies on RNG. Legendaries that drop very rarely often turn to greens or blues and doing a strike goesnt get you much of anything better than you can pick up from a level 4 enemy you kill in one shot.
 
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cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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They may patch it soon. I wanted to do that yesterday as I'm finally level 20 but I couldn't find it. I'm not really sure what to do now to get higher level. I don't usually play pvp and I still have story missions to do.
To level up now you need gear with light on it. Next to the stats like strength and intelligence will be a light stat. Rare and higher gear will have this stat, when you upgrade the gear the light level goes up and legendary gear has more light than rares and exotic more than legendary.

Also they aren't going to patch the cave. There is no reason to. Nobody is exploiting anything, it is just a way to kill a lot of enemies in a short time and hope the RNG works in your favor. It is no different than me running around Venus chest hunting and getting 50 spirit bloom in 30 minutes. Or cruising around mars collecting chests and relic iron. It is just farming. Besides, you aren't going to get a full set of legendary gear from sitting at the cave. You are better off doing vanguard or crucible for guaranteed legendary gear and spending your marks.
 
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mnewsham

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Oct 2, 2010
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To level up now you need gear with light on it. Next to the stats like strength and intelligence will be a light stat. Rare and higher gear will have this stat, when you upgrade the gear the light level goes up and legendary gear has more light than rares and exotic more than legendary.

Also they aren't going to patch the cave. There is no reason to. Nobody is exploiting anything, it is just a way to kill a lot of enemies in a short time and hope the RNG works in your favor. It is no different than me running around Venus chest hunting and getting 50 spirit bloom in 30 minutes. Or cruising around mars collecting chests and relic iron. It is just farming. Besides, you aren't going to get a full set of legendary gear from sitting at the cave. You are better off doing vanguard or crucible for guaranteed legendary gear and spending your marks.
Honestly relic iron, spirit bloom, and helium filament farming is probably quicker than the loot cave for legendaries because you can do material exchange for guaranteed vanguard/crucible marks.
 

hans030390

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Feb 3, 2005
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I got to level 20 and realized how much I hate farming and grinding for gear, especially just to get involved in the interesting content of the game. The repetitive and shallow nature of many aspects of the game make it much worse. Yet I still have a strange desire to play...
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Loot Cave Patched, loot cave no more

http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/25/6844833/destiny-loot-cave-shut-down-bungie


Of course they use the excuse to be more social but you can't be social in a game where you can only talk to people who are only in your fire team. We all knew it was getting Patched though so for people like me that don't have the time to grind for super high gear, it makes it only harder.

I think that is the real problem. This is a game about grinding gear and doing harder content to grind more gear. Removing the easy farming mechanics makes it even harder for people who didn't grind to catch up to those that did. They are going to miss a lot of content. If Bungie wants the players to actually do the raids, having things like loot cave that can get you to 26+ to do it isn't a bad thing. Increasing the difficulty and level of the raids (say, the next raid is level 32 on normal), it will force players to grind the previous raid (something you want). However, making it so incredibly hard to grind to even get into the first raid is going to kill the community.
 

drbrock

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I don't see the content on my end. I am a level 22 now and don't see much more to the game other than grinding. It would be cool to have better gear but I am not going to grind forever when I can be playing other games.

Is there more story out there that I don't know about? Game is fun, glad I played for the time I did.
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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I thought the rest of the dev notes were promising.

Looking forward to:
- increase engram drops for completing activities
- opt-in voice chat for matchmade stuff (strikes, crucible). I hope they bring this, and proximity chat, to public stuff too.
- adjust difficulty of strikes
- Weapon balances
......I definitely choose my auto over my scout for the fact that the accuracy isn't so diminished that the DPS at range is definitely better
......Shotguns are too effective at range. I've especially seen this in crucible.
 
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smackababy

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making shotguns more effective at range in Crucible is about as opposite of promising as one can get. As it is now, I pretty much only die to shotguns, blade dancer, and vehicles. Shotguns are already a 30 yard one hit kill. Please, don't make them sniper rifles like in so many other games!
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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making shotguns more effective at range in Crucible is about as opposite of promising as one can get. As it is now, I pretty much only die to shotguns, blade dancer, and vehicles. Shotguns are already a 30 yard one hit kill. Please, don't make them sniper rifles like in so many other games!

Today shotguns are effective beyond their intended range, especially when upgraded with that intention. Expect changes soon to address shotguns which push the envelope of what it means to be close quarters.

I read that as they intend to nerf the shotguns at range, addressing your (and my) concern about them.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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I think that is the real problem. This is a game about grinding gear and doing harder content to grind more gear. Removing the easy farming mechanics makes it even harder for people who didn't grind to catch up to those that did. They are going to miss a lot of content. If Bungie wants the players to actually do the raids, having things like loot cave that can get you to 26+ to do it isn't a bad thing. Increasing the difficulty and level of the raids (say, the next raid is level 32 on normal), it will force players to grind the previous raid (something you want). However, making it so incredibly hard to grind to even get into the first raid is going to kill the community.

You can get to 27 or 28 from farming crucible and vanguard marks. A couple weeks and you have a full legendary set.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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I don't see the content on my end. I am a level 22 now and don't see much more to the game other than grinding. It would be cool to have better gear but I am not going to grind forever when I can be playing other games.

Is there more story out there that I don't know about? Game is fun, glad I played for the time I did.

Most of the story is contained in grimoire cards on bungie.net
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Along with doing the bounties. Because, if you don't, rep is so annoyingly slow.

That's part of farming the marks, but yes.

Ideally you want to do it this way and not rely on RNG. There is a reason Xur comes every weekend after all. To keep you trying to get coins and see what he has this week.

There are huge threads about how this patch sucks cause they can't span the cave and do queen bounties endlessly for the free ascendent shards. I think the cave was stupid and am glad the removed it, they will also increase engram drop rate for activities and they already started talking about adjustments to the cryptarch saying that there is much raging about getting blues from a legendary engram and adjustments are forthcoming. I think these changes are for the better. Let people whine about it. Those who don't care about the game or are too butthurt will quit and it'll be left to those who are a little more dedicated which is fine by me. Too many people want to have everything right away.
 
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BoberFett

Lifer
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Haven't read through all the pages and posts, but can anyone chime in on what kind of community is out there for the 360 version? I've looked online for some resources but can't really gauge it as most everything out there is regarding the XB1 version.

I'm not ready to pull the trigger on an XB1 just yet...

I'm on 360 if you wanted to team up.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Most of the story is contained in grimoire cards on bungie.net
Which makes no sense. In Mass Effect, they had that but in-game, which made it easy access and added a ton of lore. The biggest difference is that you actually cared about what was going on in Mass Effect.
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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Most of the story is contained in grimoire cards on bungie.net

I wish they'd make a codex or something in game, a la Mass Effect. Going to a website to get the story is just, blech.

edit: Whoops, looks like that point was already made.
 
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Bill Brasky

Diamond Member
May 18, 2006
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Loot Cave Patched, loot cave no more

http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/25/6844833/destiny-loot-cave-shut-down-bungie


Of course they use the excuse to be more social but you can't be social in a game where you can only talk to people who are only in your fire team. We all knew it was getting Patched though so for people like me that don't have the time to grind for super high gear, it makes it only harder.

Saw this on gaf. LOL



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=131654855&postcount=2220


EDIT: Also, if you're looking for destiny bros at off peak times check out this website.

http://www.destinylfg.com/
 
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Qbah

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Oct 18, 2005
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So we finished the Nightfall Strike with Rage187. Problem is I disconnected twice during it so in the end I got no item reward, no rep and no XP bonus... :-( And it didn't count as finished. This sucks!
 

chimaxi83

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May 18, 2003
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Which makes no sense. In Mass Effect, they had that but in-game, which made it easy access and added a ton of lore. The biggest difference is that you actually cared about what was going on in Mass Effect.
This is probably the worst aspect of the game. I find it stupid and ass backwards, imo. It's like the story is a loosely tacked on afterthought.
 

mnewsham

Lifer
Oct 2, 2010
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Well i was going to try to get on tonight and play for a solid 4-5 hours, but ended up a car wreck this afternoon, head-on collision at 40mph. Feeling like shit for now, broken collar bone and cracked sternum. Gonna take it easy for the next few days I think, probably wont be on too much. Ah well, i'll be back when im feeling better
 
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