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Anubis

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its pretty easy this week. i burned hom down to 50% with 1 mag out of an upgraded Arc HMG

~25 head shots from an upgreaded arc sniper will kill him outright
 

metaphors

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I'll most likely be trying to get it done with 2 characters tonight. Last weeks nightfall was pretty tedious mostly because that strike is so long.

I saw someone solo it on stream this morning he killed the Boss 1-2 minutes after he spawned lol.
 

smackababy

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then they haven't played the game enough to be able to do the Raid. That sucks for the .05% of people who had the worst of luck, but if you've played this game enough, you will get drops. Playing the Raid is not a right, its a privilege for those who are geared enough to do it. Also, there are purples that you can buy with enough marks to do the raid. Many purples are better than exotics actually.

People that "aren't leveled" shouldn't be attempting the raid......again in my opinion.

You sure about that? I've found a total of 4 legendary items ever and one wasn't even for the class I was playing and the other turned into a mote of light (which can't happen anymore, but this was before that). Now, I have both specs leveled completely and all my welfare epic armor (along with an exotic helm) fully leveled. Me and RNGesus aren't exactly on friendly terms. I have terrible luck in loot games. If it wasn't for some savvy shopping on the AH in D3, my thousand+ hours would have had me entirely in rares, and not particularly good ones either. I feel I earned his scorn when I got fill BiS for the cheap DKP in Wrath of the Lich King, got my Invincible and /gquit, sold my gold and uninstalled.

And frankly, at this point, I don't have the time to grind out 50 of each upgrade material to get leveled. The raid starts at 26, what level do I have to be before I can do that?

And, if you do think so few people just aren't putting in the time, you don't understand how end game content works on MMOs. You're lucky if 20% of the total population can get to it.
 

Bill Brasky

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Still no solar after everyone got ice breaker lol

Do you know when Ice breaker was last available from Xur?

edit: And FYI there is no reason every player can't have a legendary arc sniper. The Vangaurd Quartermaster sells the Episph 2261 which is a legendary arc sniper with damage(end of clip) and reload buffs (empty mag). Completely worth the V. Marks.
 
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Bill Brasky

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The raid starts at 26, what level do I have to be before I can do that?

If you have a solid group of players at 28+ they can carry you as a 27. I've seen a 26 get carried, but he didn't contribute a single thing and died A LOT. I would recommend being at least a 28 to do the raid and enjoy it.

To do the hard raid you pretty much have to have 4 30's.
 

sze5003

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If you have a solid group of players at 28+ they can carry you as a 27. I've seen a 26 get carried, but he didn't contribute a single thing and died A LOT. I would recommend being at least a 28 to do the raid and enjoy it.

To do the hard raid you pretty much have to have 4 30's.

Can you have more than 3 people in a fire team? Or is it allowing more for a raid? I'll never get to a raid lol.
 

Anubis

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Do you know when Ice breaker was last available from Xur?

edit: And FYI there is no reason every player can't have a legendary arc sniper. The Vangaurd Quartermaster sells the Episph 2261 which is a legendary arc sniper with damage(end of clip) and reload buffs (empty mag). Completely worth the V. Marks.

its what i used today, its very nice when fully upgraded
 

cmdrdredd

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Do you know when Ice breaker was last available from Xur?

edit: And FYI there is no reason every player can't have a legendary arc sniper. The Vangaurd Quartermaster sells the Episph 2261 which is a legendary arc sniper with damage(end of clip) and reload buffs (empty mag). Completely worth the V. Marks.
It was a while back. I want to say a month ago but can't be positive on that.
 

smackababy

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If you have a solid group of players at 28+ they can carry you as a 27. I've seen a 26 get carried, but he didn't contribute a single thing and died A LOT. I would recommend being at least a 28 to do the raid and enjoy it.

To do the hard raid you pretty much have to have 4 30's.

I am at the point where I am stuck unless I can either find enough upgrade material, or the raid gear drops are significant upgrades for me, which I doubt would be. If I had the time (and it didn't take like 100 of each material per piece), I'd be fully upgraded. Requiring such a tedious grinding mechanism for upgrade is pretty asinine and annoying for those of us with less time as of late.
 

cmdrdredd

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If you have a solid group of players at 28+ they can carry you as a 27. I've seen a 26 get carried, but he didn't contribute a single thing and died A LOT. I would recommend being at least a 28 to do the raid and enjoy it.

To do the hard raid you pretty much have to have 4 30's.
That goes back to my point. A lot of forums have people requesting specific levels when grouping. So for some people they might quit because they feel like no matter what they do, they can't get gear drops to hit the next level. It is bad design. No loot luck and you are stuck.

When you have the opportunity to buy pieces that will get you another level it helps. People can find groups easier and nobody will feel they are carrying someone.
 
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smackababy

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That goes back to my point. A lot of forums have people requesting specific levels when grouping. So for some people they might quit because they feel like no matter what they do, they can't get gear drops to hit the next level. It is bad design. No loot luck and you are stuck.

And to top it off, it isn't like the gear makes that much of a difference. A level 26 who can avoid being hit with a good set of weapons is going to be more use than a level 28 with blue weapons who can't avoid crap. But, people don't care about that. The way the gear is tied to the level, with little consideration for things like weapons, really muddies the gap that should be created by players who can and can't do progression. At least, in games like WoW, you knew if someone had a certain level of gear, it could be assumed they could do the next slightly harder set of raids. Destiny doesn't have that kind of progression. They have grind and find and then maybe you'll be high enough level to find a group.
 

cmdrdredd

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And to top it off, it isn't like the gear makes that much of a difference. A level 26 who can avoid being hit with a good set of weapons is going to be more use than a level 28 with blue weapons who can't avoid crap. But, people don't care about that. The way the gear is tied to the level, with little consideration for things like weapons, really muddies the gap that should be created by players who can and can't do progression. At least, in games like WoW, you knew if someone had a certain level of gear, it could be assumed they could do the next slightly harder set of raids. Destiny doesn't have that kind of progression. They have grind and find and then maybe you'll be high enough level to find a group.
A 26 is doing only roughly 55% of his max damage with a level 300 weapon against lv28 enemies at the end of the raid. Then again I have seen lv29s on hard who can't pull supplicant duty and die. Can't revive in hard mode.
 

cmdrdredd

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Can you have more than 3 people in a fire team? Or is it allowing more for a raid? I'll never get to a raid lol.
If you could get to 26-27 I could probably pull a group together to carry you through normal. Last week I did it with only a group of 5 cause one guy kept disconnecting.
 
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Can you have more than 3 people in a fire team? Or is it allowing more for a raid? I'll never get to a raid lol.

You can invite people and have a party of 6 while in orbit, etc.

But when you do a strike, you can only bring in 3 total. I'm guessing if you tried to run a strike w/ a max 6 party, it'll say too many guardians in the party or something.

For raiding, you can bring in 6.
 

PimpJuice

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You sure about that? I've found a total of 4 legendary items ever and one wasn't even for the class I was playing and the other turned into a mote of light (which can't happen anymore, but this was before that). Now, I have both specs leveled completely and all my welfare epic armor (along with an exotic helm) fully leveled. Me and RNGesus aren't exactly on friendly terms. I have terrible luck in loot games. If it wasn't for some savvy shopping on the AH in D3, my thousand+ hours would have had me entirely in rares, and not particularly good ones either. I feel I earned his scorn when I got fill BiS for the cheap DKP in Wrath of the Lich King, got my Invincible and /gquit, sold my gold and uninstalled.

And frankly, at this point, I don't have the time to grind out 50 of each upgrade material to get leveled. The raid starts at 26, what level do I have to be before I can do that?

And, if you do think so few people just aren't putting in the time, you don't understand how end game content works on MMOs. You're lucky if 20% of the total population can get to it.

4 legendaries or 4 exotics? If its legendaries, thats hard to believe and pretty shit luck dude if true. I hear you about the farming, its a pain.

you need to be 27 to do the raid, which can easily be attained by rank 2 in crucible/vanguard with 63 marks for each piece. You then need to farm to upgrade those pieces of gear. I don't know, the games been out for a couple months, and over 90% of the people on my friends list are at least level 27 with one character.

I don't think Destiny is a MMO, its not close to an MMO in my opinion. level 30 is end-game.....until the DLC comes out.
 

smackababy

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4 legendaries or 4 exotics? If its legendaries, thats hard to believe and pretty shit luck dude if true. I hear you about the farming, its a pain.

you need to be 27 to do the raid, which can easily be attained by rank 2 in crucible/vanguard with 63 marks for each piece. You then need to farm to upgrade those pieces of gear. I don't know, the games been out for a couple months, and over 90% of the people on my friends list are at least level 27 with one character.

I don't think Destiny is a MMO, its not close to an MMO in my opinion. level 30 is end-game.....until the DLC comes out.

4 legendary engrams, yes. I have a single exotic from Xur and one exotic bounty. I have full Queen / Vanguard gear, but I can't be assed to run around collecting crap to upgrade it (hence, why it is fully leveled and just waiting on Spirit bloom or whatever). That is beyond stupid that they don't make that stuff a possible reward for playing the game. I could understand if crafting / gathering was a secondary skill only used for end game (min/max type of stuff like in WoW), but it is a main component and beyond moronic. It takes 8 per upgrade, not counting the legendary material. You're looking at a lot for just the single upgrade portions.

My RNG luck is awful. It is in every game. This is something I've come to expect. Ask me how many Fifa coins I've spent on packs and how many good cards I've gotten? It is in the millions on Fifa 14 (at 7,500 a pack) and I got a single "good" card (MoTM Mueller), Fifa 15 hasn't been any kinder.
 

Anubis

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some people have that kind of shit luck.

i had great luck in the past 2 weeks and was basically getting 1 legendary engram a day, either from drops/strikes or the cryptarch

dread was with me on a lot of those days
 

cmdrdredd

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some people have that kind of shit luck.

i had great luck in the past 2 weeks and was basically getting 1 legendary engram a day, either from drops/strikes or the cryptarch

dread was with me on a lot of those days

Yeah while I get a billion greens to fill my inventory with. Yay! lol
 

cmdrdredd

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I got an ice breaker on my solo run. 3 energy for me

edit: was just with probably the worst group of lv29s and 30s I've ever seen. They never called out what was happening. Nobody called out praetorians/minotaurs. Nobody called out for legions at templar for people who might not see the text, nobody called out when they got the relic to move to the middle. When we are fighting a praetorian and protecting the gate we can't see them come out and they didn't call it there was 2 sacrifices already and 2 walking down the ramp. I've never seen people who didn't call stuff out. It just felt sloppy because nobody communicated what was going on. Even though we know what to do, timing on some stuff is important and telling people what side you will be protecting on confluxes is important too. At one point there was 4 people on left cause nobody knew who was going where.
 
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cmdrdredd

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Oh yeah that was a great run. Got Red Death which I probably won't use and the Found Verdict which I probably won't use either. Starting to get a large list of items I'm not going to make use of. The vault is way too small for everything.
 

Anubis

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agree the vault is way to small. also got that shotgun which prob wont be used

and i got a total of 41 shards and 9 energy today
 
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