Official Destiny Thread

[cmdrdredd]

The nightfall will be lv30 now. That is pretty much confirmed so I assume the weekly on hard will be 30. Also deej tweeted that Xur will sell engrsms more sporadically. He won't have then each week. So I guess we will have a ton of motes sitting in our inventory until who knows when.

The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that bungie's real problem is removing or severely limiting content for anyone below the cap available via venders. They even put limits between players and buying the gear to hit 30.

 

[smackababy]

The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that bungie's real problem is removing or severely limiting content for anyone below the cap available via venders.

This is entirely their problem. I understand having content for capped players, but doing it at the expensive of everyone who isn't capped is beyond stupid. Increasing the grind to hit 30 right now is only going to further push back people who aren't there yet.

WoW didn't remove Kara when Sunwell was opened... In fact, they have done everything they can to speed up players getting to the latest end game content.

Unless the new strikes give significant upgrades better than grinding it out (which they won't), this is a move backwards. If my grind is increased to hit 30 and decent weapons when the expansion hits, I am finished with this game. In fact, I was going to purchase the expansion tonight to have it out of the way, but now, I am going to wait.

 

[PimpJuice]

This is entirely their problem. I understand having content for capped players, but doing it at the expensive of everyone who isn't capped is beyond stupid. Increasing the grind to hit 30 right now is only going to further push back people who aren't there yet.

WoW didn't remove Kara when Sunwell was opened... In fact, they have done everything they can to speed up players getting to the latest end game content.

Unless the new strikes give significant upgrades better than grinding it out (which they won't), this is a move backwards. If my grind is increased to hit 30 and decent weapons when the expansion hits, I am finished with this game. In fact, I was going to purchase the expansion tonight to have it out of the way, but now, I am going to wait.

It's not any more difficult to get to 30 than before in my opinion.

1) buy legendary gear with marks
2) buy an exotic piece of armor from Xur
3) max armor to hit level 28 (farm or buy materials from vendors with
marks)
4) run the raid to get raid weapons and raid gear to increase levels
5) repeat 4) until you hit level 30

That is what everyone who is max level has done up to this point, and none of that has changed. In fact, its become easier to do with the ability to buy materials. Sure, you now need an exotic shard for your one piece of exotic armor, but you no longer need any other ascendant materials to upgrade the exotic armor so its a trade-off but nothing else has changed in the process to get to 30.

http://destinystatus.com/xbl/the wrong panda

You've played the game just over 1 total day a month, I don't understand the complaint that it's hard to hit max level. This is a game with RNG that requires grinding to hit max level. I've put almost 4x as much time into this game as you and I just hit level 30 two days ago.

Half the people complaining about the grind have barely even put in the effort required to hit max level. It's far from hard for a game of this type.

 

[cmdrdredd]

This is entirely their problem. I understand having content for capped players, but doing it at the expensive of everyone who isn't capped is beyond stupid. Increasing the grind to hit 30 right now is only going to further push back people who aren't there yet.

WoW didn't remove Kara when Sunwell was opened... In fact, they have done everything they can to speed up players getting to the latest end game content.

Unless the new strikes give significant upgrades better than grinding it out (which they won't), this is a move backwards. If my grind is increased to hit 30 and decent weapons when the expansion hits, I am finished with this game. In fact, I was going to purchase the expansion tonight to have it out of the way, but now, I am going to wait.

The grind will be less really. You can buy gear from venders that can take you to 30. The caveat is you can only buy one per rank. Vault of glass will still be available too. So you essentially have more options to hit 30 than before. I just don't necessarily agree with the gear purchase limits. I would want everyone to be at 30 doing the new raid trying to get set for hard mode and grinding nightfalls etc for the new weapons. That's just me. Actually now that I think about it. The only content where a weapon that caps up to 323 would be significantly better is croata's end on hard which would be level 32. Everything else is level 30 or lower which is where vault of glass sits now and 300 weapons are fine IMO. The problem I was alluding to is making nightfall 30. If they had two. One on normal and one on hard (lv28 and lv30) I would be fine with it. As it is there are many people who have hit the level 28-29 wall because of no raid gear. They won't likely be able to do the new content with people like me who have gotten to 30. Getting to 30 isn't special anyway if you ask me. I didn't do anything to get there except have the raid drop the stuff I needed. I did it enough times that luck shined upon me. It's not like I killed some big world destroying enemy to get something to push me to lv30. I did what you and everyone else has been doing, playing the game hoping that this time is your turn for armor and that mechanic sucks.

What they should have done is have the gear to get to 30 and the weapons that go above 300 cost a few more marks with no rank limit, and have two nightfalls. One at 28 and one at 30. Give the one at 30 have a higher XP bonus and a better chance for legendary. Or hell, complete it on level 30 and get an exotic shard. So the weekly will pay out coins, the nightfall gives exotic shards, and everyone is fairly rewarded for their troubles.

 

[smackababy]

You can't buy gear very fast though. 1 piece per rank, if it starts at level 2 is a retarded amount of grinding. You then factor in that you want a weapon and that is even worse. Now, less available Strange Coins for Xur weapons and we get less gear, more grind. Unless, we are already cap. It is just a bad idea all around. If anything, they should be speeding up the advancement to 30. With every new dungeon in WoW came new instances that had slightly better gear than the others. In fact, some had gear on par with the last raid (in WotLK, at least). It let people who missed 6+ months of content catch up.

Good news though: they lowered the light requirements to hit 28. I am 99 light and about 1/10th of the way into 28, when I was just at the very end of 27 last night. So, there's that.


Just finished my first Nightfall and... other two guys got exotics. One, with an Icebreaker, got an Icebreaker. I got a lame legendary machine gun. Oh, thanks.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I don't see how giving you raid and venders that can get you to 30 is not speeding it up vs 100% RNG raid only. You know I think I was at 260 hours before I hit 30.

 

[smackababy]

I don't see how giving you raid and venders that can get you to 30 is not speeding it up vs 100% RNG raid only. You know I think I was at 260 hours before I hit 30.

You will need at least 26 before you can raid, and who is going to take a 26 over every other 27 or 28?. And, in order to vendor 3 pieces (not including a weapon or an exotic from Xur, you can even get those) you need to grind 4 levels from the Vanguard / Crucible. That is an insane amount of grinding. Plus, good luck getting those upgrades.

Once the changes go into effect, start a character with nothing. Act like you just got the game and don't use friends etc. It is going to extend the grind to everyone now already up at cap (or close to it).

 

[cmdrdredd]

You can get level 28 from Xur and rank 3 from venders. No excuses accepted IMO.

From there you have raid only now which is RNG only. After the update you can buy gear from venders that can get you to 30 along with what the raid drops. You have more options than you do today.

 

[Schfifty Five]

You can get level 28 from Xur and rank 3 from venders. No excuses accepted IMO.

From there you have raid only now which is RNG only. After the update you can buy gear from venders that can get you to 30 along with what the raid drops. You have more options than you do today.

Actually, you can get to 29 with just Xur and 3 normal legendary pieces.

3x 27 light (normal legendary armor) = 81
1x 30 light (exotic armor) = 30
Total = 111 light

I think level 29 only requires you to hit 109 light.

 

[KentState]

Actually, you can get to 29 with just Xur and 3 normal legendary pieces.

3x 27 light (normal legendary armor) = 81
1x 30 light (exotic armor) = 30
Total = 111 light

I think level 29 only requires you to hit 109 light.

Level Required Amount of Light
21 20
22 32
23 43
24 54
25 65
26 76
27 87
28 98
29 109
30 120

 

[Subyman]

It's not any more difficult to get to 30 than before in my opinion.

1) buy legendary gear with marks
2) buy an exotic piece of armor from Xur
3) max armor to hit level 28 (farm or buy materials from vendors with
marks)
4) run the raid to get raid weapons and raid gear to increase levels
5) repeat 4) until you hit level 30

That is what everyone who is max level has done up to this point, and none of that has changed. In fact, its become easier to do with the ability to buy materials. Sure, you now need an exotic shard for your one piece of exotic armor, but you no longer need any other ascendant materials to upgrade the exotic armor so its a trade-off but nothing else has changed in the process to get to 30.

http://destinystatus.com/xbl/the wrong panda

You've played the game just over 1 total day a month, I don't understand the complaint that it's hard to hit max level. This is a game with RNG that requires grinding to hit max level. I've put almost 4x as much time into this game as you and I just hit level 30 two days ago.

Half the people complaining about the grind have barely even put in the effort required to hit max level. It's far from hard for a game of this type.

I don't think he's complaining about how much time it takes. This is key for me too. He seems to be complaining about the amount of time doing one activity. If it took a week played time to get to whatever the max is, that would be fine if there was a nice chunk of content to go through. Running marks, materials, and one raid over and over to level up gets old quick. Leveling to 20 takes about 8-10 hours. The rest of that 3-4 days played was doing the same strikes over and over, running the material paths, and he just got to doing the raiding. That's the problem. Time is not, but the quality of that time spent is.

 

[Subyman]

You can get level 28 from Xur and rank 3 from venders. No excuses accepted IMO.

From there you have raid only now which is RNG only. After the update you can buy gear from venders that can get you to 30 along with what the raid drops. You have more options than you do today.

As someone that is still trying to get marks, its boring. Doing the daily missions and the same strikes over and over for marks gets old. I've even gotten to the point of going to a website to find the public event spawns. I'm not wanting gear to rain down on me, but the process of obtaining it is boring. You can get to 28 from Xur and marks, but good luck trying to have fun. With the vanguard mark cap you are artificially stuck under the raid cap for well over a month if you want all the armor and weapons to be able to raid not matter how much you play.

 

[Qbah]

Guys, just stop playing. It made me a happier person. The last thing I want is to get upset with a fucking game. Trust me, stop playing Destiny, enjoy gaming again. And remember to warn people to avoid this turd.

 

[Subyman]

Guys, just stop playing. It made me a happier person. The last thing I want is to get upset with a fucking game. Trust me, stop playing Destiny, enjoy gaming again. And remember to warn people to avoid this turd.

I stopped playing. I'll probably jump on from time to time just to mess around unless they make sweeping changes or add some new fun mechanic or way to progress. All they'd really need to do for me is to add matchmaking to the weeklies and raid and I'd probably spend some more time in it.

 

[zerocool84]

As someone that is still trying to get marks, its boring. Doing the daily missions and the same strikes over and over for marks gets old. I've even gotten to the point of going to a website to find the public event spawns. I'm not wanting gear to rain down on me, but the process of obtaining it is boring. You can get to 28 from Xur and marks, but good luck trying to have fun. With the vanguard mark cap you are artificially stuck under the raid cap for well over a month if you want all the armor and weapons to be able to raid not matter how much you play.

Strikes are literals the worst way to get Marks. Public Events is the quickest and easiest way to get marks. You can get 12-20 marks per hour farming public events. Plus you'll naturally be upgrading your Cryptarch as well as you'll be getting drops while killing enemies.

 

[cmdrdredd]

As someone that is still trying to get marks, its boring. Doing the daily missions and the same strikes over and over for marks gets old. I've even gotten to the point of going to a website to find the public event spawns. I'm not wanting gear to rain down on me, but the process of obtaining it is boring. You can get to 28 from Xur and marks, but good luck trying to have fun. With the vanguard mark cap you are artificially stuck under the raid cap for well over a month if you want all the armor and weapons to be able to raid not matter how much you play.

No doubt it gets boring. However if you want to progress further in the game, its what you do. Or stop playing.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Strikes are literals the worst way to get Marks. Public Events is the quickest and easiest way to get marks. You can get 12-20 marks per hour farming public events. Plus you'll naturally be upgrading your Cryptarch as well as you'll be getting drops while killing enemies.

Strikes seem to go faster than running to a spot and having no event happen. When you go to 8 in a row and none of them happen at the time stated on the site you could have had a positive mark. XP, and engram count from 2-3 strikes.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Guys, just stop playing. It made me a happier person. The last thing I want is to get upset with a fucking game. Trust me, stop playing Destiny, enjoy gaming again. And remember to warn people to avoid this turd.

Well that's your opinion. I am mad at how certain things are but I am not an unhappy person because of the game. Not in the least. I don't tell and won't tell people to avoid it but I will always try to be forthcoming with the mechanics of progression.

 

[zerocool84]

Strikes seem to go faster than running to a spot and having no event happen. When you go to 8 in a row and none of them happen at the time stated on the site you could have had a positive mark. XP, and engram count from 2-3 strikes.

There are four guaranteed Public Events per hour, the rest sometimes don't show up so it can go up from there.

 

[KentState]

Strikes are literals the worst way to get Marks. Public Events is the quickest and easiest way to get marks. You can get 12-20 marks per hour farming public events. Plus you'll naturally be upgrading your Cryptarch as well as you'll be getting drops while killing enemies.

Don't know about that. You can get through strikes pretty quick and they have plenty of drops. They reward 6 marks per completion and take about 15-20 minutes if you are with a good group.

 

[Subyman]

Strikes are literals the worst way to get Marks. Public Events is the quickest and easiest way to get marks. You can get 12-20 marks per hour farming public events. Plus you'll naturally be upgrading your Cryptarch as well as you'll be getting drops while killing enemies.

Eh, I think that is being very optimistic. I did the public event farming and I'd say only around 1 out of 4-5 times did the event pop up at the time given. Take into account the loading times and traveling time, it was more about 2 or so successful public events happening per hour. IMO it was almost better to farm venus for mats to turn in for marks and do the public event that spawns there every hour. Then I'd get around 10 marks an hour. That's 6 hours of grinding to get one piece of gear. Now make that needing 3 pieces at 60 marks, the helm at 120, a primary at 150, and a secondary at 90. We are talking about nearly 54 hours of farming to get geared for a raid and that isn't even upgrading the gear yet. That is terrible design on their part. Even if you take into account getting an exotic helm from Xur with strange coins, its 40+ hours of chasing down public events or grinding out mats.

There has to be a more engaging and fun way for them to create the progression in this game. Again, I'm completely fine with having to spend time to get items. I played WoW for years. Its the rout and boring activities they make you do over and over and over that makes it a shame because I love the gameplay.

No doubt it gets boring. However if you want to progress further in the game, its what you do. Or stop playing.

That's what I'm disappointed in. I have stopped playing.

 

[cmdrdredd]

There are four guaranteed Public Events per hour, the rest sometimes don't show up so it can go up from there.

Meh...I would rather do 10 minute strikes (run through the spots you don't have to fight and solo the boss if you have to) than spend huge amounts of time traveling around hoping for events to show up. I also hate the "achieve gold tier rating in public events" bounty as well.

I haven't been playing much since I started Dragon Age, but I expect to start playing more again next week. The FPS part of the game is well enough done and I'm locked into a second expansion. I was set to quit because of Xur's RNG aspect but since he has 6 weapons and 6 armor at a time it probably won't be long until the things I want to upgrade appear.

 

[metaphors]

Strikes seem to go faster than running to a spot and having no event happen. When you go to 8 in a row and none of them happen at the time stated on the site you could have had a positive mark. XP, and engram count from 2-3 strikes.

I'd rather go to the strike playlist for an hour and get 24-42 marks plus rep and engrams than farm public event's for an hour and its not close.

 

[metaphors]

There are four guaranteed Public Events per hour, the rest sometimes don't show up so it can go up from there.

Honestly if your group is solid you can get at least 4 strikes done in an hour...if you don't get one of the mars strikes that number goes up and even then there are full sections you can bypass for efficiency.

 

[chimaxi83]

Public events are a terrible way to farm marks. Wat.jpg

That being said, if you need public events, the public events app is pretty damn helpful. I hate that bounty too but the app makes it pretty simple. Its not something I'd want to use farm marks though. Tiger strikes all the way.