** OFFICIAL Diablo 3 Thread **

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

I think it would be nice to have difficulty modes instead of levels. One mode is challenging to play, another for getting a char and just kicking ass with hellfire and brimstone. Then within the modes, have difficulty levels to assist new players or entertain veterans.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Zenoth

Originally posted by: skace
I do think Diablo 1 was a much darker and more roguelike Diablo game. And I do prefer it over Diablo 2. But at this point, and with the massive success that D2 got, I'd expect D3 to be much more similar to Diablo 2 than the original. The footage we've seen at this point sort of demonstrates that fact. While they show giant demons, even those do not look scary by comparison to the butcher. The biggest difference between D1 and D2 is that D1 was a game where you may or may not get powerful but the game actively wanted to kill you at all times. The series has moved from this, very roguelike sentiment, to the monty haul perspective, which is your character should become the god and the enemies should fear you. Monty haul is actually the original loot whoring term, but the end result is that your character gets massively powerful due to a constant stream of good items.

I agree, but it was less so with the original Diablo II.

When the expansion came out and especially starting from patch 1.10 (also 1.09) Assassins could Whirldwind, any classes could Teleport, Barbarians could have Paladin Auras and the Paladin could cast Battle Orders... I mean playing D2 doesn't feel unique as it did without the expansion. The influx of good items doesn't help, and the mega-powerful Runewords are just basically screwing everything, turning most Lvl 90+ characters into auto bots running Baal non-stop. I never finished the original Diablo, but I remember having a very hard time with it when I tried it, and I cannot recall ever finding any "awesome" item, contrary to Diablo II which happens roughly twice a week or so.

Basically, yes, Diablo was more challenging than Diablo II, but Diablo II was also more challenging than Lord of Destruction. I hope that Diablo III's general atmosphere and chosen colors palette won't reflect its challenge, because we'll have DII all over again with polygons and physics this time around. I am going to buy D3, but I'm honestly not over-hyped for it, I believe "it's cool", you know, it's getting to be released, well, nice, but nothing more, let's wait, then buy, then play, and then judge, for now I'm still busy with TF2 and M2:TW.

my loot drops in D1 were always better than D2, with a few exceptions

i agree with skace that given the scale of D2, it's almost necessary to make D3 similar. the tight atmosphere of D1 was in part due to the fact that it was a fairly small game. Trying to expand that to something much larger isn't trivial, I'd imagine. D2 has so much more replayability than D1 because it's that much bigger.

I'm already a level 40 javazon on USeast after 2 nights :Q, although I'm sure some people here powerlevel way faster

 

[jonks]

Aight, confession time. I never played D1 or D2. Maybe I'm missing what all the excitement is about. From the gameplay vid it looks like you just go around clicking on the bad guys which makes it about as much fun as Dungeon Siege, which was alright but fairly basic. What's the Diablo draw? Where's the 'addictive' gameplay thing come in? Is it just the leveling and swag grabbing?

I'm looking forward to D3 if only b/c it'll give me a chance to see what the fuss is about. I'm a bit of a graphic snob and would probably not enjoy D2 at this point.

 

[Riverhound777]

Originally posted by: jonks
Aight, confession time. I never played D1 or D2. Maybe I'm missing what all the excitement is about. From the gameplay vid it looks like you just go around clicking on the bad guys which makes it about as much fun as Dungeon Siege, which was alright but fairly basic. What's the Diablo draw? Where's the 'addictive' gameplay thing come in? Is it just the leveling and swag grabbing?

I'm looking forward to D3 if only b/c it'll give me a chance to see what the fuss is about. I'm a bit of a graphic snob and would probably not enjoy D2 at this point.

Obviously not your kind of game, you sound like an FPS kind of guy.

 

[Josh123]

I'm thinking about trying to order another copy of Diablo, anyone play the original anymore?

I haven't played it in years and really miss it. Will it even run on todays computers?

 

[HopJokey]

Originally posted by: Zenoth

Originally posted by: skace
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I agree, but it was less so with the original Diablo II.

When the expansion came out and especially starting from patch 1.10 (also 1.09) Assassins could Whirldwind, any classes could Teleport, Barbarians could have Paladin Auras and the Paladin could cast Battle Orders... I mean playing D2 doesn't feel unique as it did without the expansion. The influx of good items doesn't help, and the mega-powerful Runewords are just basically screwing everything, turning most Lvl 90+ characters into auto bots running Baal non-stop. I never finished the original Diablo, but I remember having a very hard time with it when I tried it, and I cannot recall ever finding any "awesome" item, contrary to Diablo II which happens roughly twice a week or so.

Basically, yes, Diablo was more challenging than Diablo II, but Diablo II was also more challenging than Lord of Destruction. I hope that Diablo III's general atmosphere and chosen colors palette won't reflect its challenge, because we'll have DII all over again with polygons and physics this time around. I am going to buy D3, but I'm honestly not over-hyped for it, I believe "it's cool", you know, it's getting to be released, well, nice, but nothing more, let's wait, then buy, then play, and then judge, for now I'm still busy with TF2 and M2:TW.

The mega-powerful Runewords should be very rare, but due to bots and dupers they are not. Most high runes past Gul are not legit. The problem is not with the existance of runewords it is with the inability of Blizzard to police closed BNet. Hopefully this will change (and it probably will) with D3.

Only a handful of people should have "Enigma" which allows teleport for other classes and "Call to Arms" which allows Battle Orders for other classes if there were no bot'ed or duped runes.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Theres a huge thread over at diablofans.com about the horrible artistic direction the game is taking, and the biggest thread at the official battle.net forums is also about that, pretty every true fan of the series is disappointed because D3 looks more like Warcraft than any of the previous Diablos

Someone made a petition because of that: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

It has been linked in several forums and is up to nearly 1500 signatures... Starcraft fans made Blizzard darken Sc2, so Diablo fans should also be able to do it

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
When the expansion came out and especially starting from patch 1.10 (also 1.09) Assassins could Whirldwind, any classes could Teleport, Barbarians could have Paladin Auras and the Paladin could cast Battle Orders... I mean playing D2 doesn't feel unique as it did without the expansion. The influx of good items doesn't help, and the mega-powerful Runewords are just basically screwing everything, turning most Lvl 90+ characters into auto bots running Baal non-stop. I never finished the original Diablo, but I remember having a very hard time with it when I tried it, and I cannot recall ever finding any "awesome" item, contrary to Diablo II which happens roughly twice a week or so.

Basically, yes, Diablo was more challenging than Diablo II, but Diablo II was also more challenging than Lord of Destruction. I hope that Diablo III's general atmosphere and chosen colors palette won't reflect its challenge, because we'll have DII all over again with polygons and physics this time around. I am going to buy D3, but I'm honestly not over-hyped for it, I believe "it's cool", you know, it's getting to be released, well, nice, but nothing more, let's wait, then buy, then play, and then judge, for now I'm still busy with TF2 and M2:TW.

Ya know, I've never really thought about it but you're exactly right. I spent more time playing D2 trying to get "good items" than anything, and in the end it was really pretty easy. I came in during 1.08 myself. I played at a bud's house a few time when D2C was all there was. The xpac items made it a little TOO easy. Rares were where it was at in Classic, the Xpac added so many ridiculous uniques that it almost killed it. Really most of the damage came during 1.10 though, I'm with you there. Synergies were a big part of it, it various items took away from the exclusivity of different classes. Runewords like Enigma that turns anyone into a sorceress and the Paladin auras on half the gear. 500+ damage 1 handed weapons with 50% ias...

It'll sorta hope that they drop the power of the gear a good bit for D3 to boost up the difficulty.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Theres a huge thread over at diablofans.com about the horrible artistic direction the game is taking, and the biggest thread at the official battle.net forums is also about that, pretty every true fan of the series is disappointed because D3 looks more like Warcraft than any of the previous Diablos

Someone made a petition because of that: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

It has been linked in several forums and is up to nearly 1500 signatures... Starcraft fans made Blizzard darken Sc2, so Diablo fans should also be able to do it

I'm with that...it really does look alot more like Warcraft 3 than a Diablo game. My only concern is that it's gonna add months to the development period if they change it

 

[Josh123]

Originally posted by: kabob983

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Theres a huge thread over at diablofans.com about the horrible artistic direction the game is taking, and the biggest thread at the official battle.net forums is also about that, pretty every true fan of the series is disappointed because D3 looks more like Warcraft than any of the previous Diablos

Someone made a petition because of that: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

It has been linked in several forums and is up to nearly 1500 signatures... Starcraft fans made Blizzard darken Sc2, so Diablo fans should also be able to do it

I'm with that...it really does look alot more like Warcraft 3 than a Diablo game. My only concern is that it's gonna add months to the development period if they change it

I signed it requesting it look more dark and evil like the original Diablo.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: Josh123
I signed it requesting it look more dark and evil like the original Diablo.

Here's the thing, I really liked the environments of the gameplay demo. I loved the outside jungle setting and the dungeon (while not as dark), but I thought the character/item models were WAY too cartooney, definately a page from WC3. I signed the petition saying I'd like a change in the character models but to leave the environments alone.

Sure, they need to have a few areas that are dark and eerie but I like a little variety.

*edit* holy cow people are signing like crazy, it jumped up about 30 names in under a minute.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Josh123

Originally posted by: kabob983

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Theres a huge thread over at diablofans.com about the horrible artistic direction the game is taking, and the biggest thread at the official battle.net forums is also about that, pretty every true fan of the series is disappointed because D3 looks more like Warcraft than any of the previous Diablos

Someone made a petition because of that: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

It has been linked in several forums and is up to nearly 1500 signatures... Starcraft fans made Blizzard darken Sc2, so Diablo fans should also be able to do it

I'm with that...it really does look alot more like Warcraft 3 than a Diablo game. My only concern is that it's gonna add months to the development period if they change it

I signed it requesting it look more dark and evil like the original Diablo.

signed, No Diablocraft, thank you!

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Riverhound777

Originally posted by: jonks
Aight, confession time. I never played D1 or D2. Maybe I'm missing what all the excitement is about. From the gameplay vid it looks like you just go around clicking on the bad guys which makes it about as much fun as Dungeon Siege, which was alright but fairly basic. What's the Diablo draw? Where's the 'addictive' gameplay thing come in? Is it just the leveling and swag grabbing?

I'm looking forward to D3 if only b/c it'll give me a chance to see what the fuss is about. I'm a bit of a graphic snob and would probably not enjoy D2 at this point.

Obviously not your kind of game, you sound like an FPS kind of guy.

Well, FPS are my favorite

But I love RPGs, hack/slash action games, and I enjoy the occasional RTS. It's just that I could understand the hype for a lot of games, but looking at the trailer/gameplay for D3 I don't see how anyone could look at that and get all freaked. It looks fun, like a modern version of Gauntlet, but doesn't look particularly deep or involving. Diablo clones are usually accused of being mouse-button mashers. Is that all it comes down to?

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: jonks
Diablo clones are usually accused of being mouse-button mashers. Is that all it comes down to?

Pretty much, but it's almost more about the setup than the game itself (at least for PvPers). Really it boils down to a button mashing game with lots of emphasis on the story and on the character setup.

Albiet, a fantastically fun button masher...

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Theres a huge thread over at diablofans.com about the horrible artistic direction the game is taking, and the biggest thread at the official battle.net forums is also about that, pretty every true fan of the series is disappointed because D3 looks more like Warcraft than any of the previous Diablos

Someone made a petition because of that: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

It has been linked in several forums and is up to nearly 1500 signatures... Starcraft fans made Blizzard darken Sc2, so Diablo fans should also be able to do it

We have seen so little thus far...

I think the fans that love this game are just nervous because it truly would be a tragedy if it flopped. I suppose the petition doesn't hurt anything though. If I were Blizz and I knew that the game had very dark sides to it which just haven't been demonstrated yet then I would just release some different screens. That or just dim the lights a little more hehe. In any case, I imagine parts of the game will look much darker and classic "diabloish" than others. I'm ok with variety.

 

[jjanders]

I know recommended specs haven't been released yet, and Blizzard has never been one to put out games that need the latest hardware, but does anyone have some rough guesses? I am looking to buy a new computer soon (nothing TOO fancy), but would want it to play D3. I assume getting a decent C2D and 2GB RAM and decent vid card should be fine?

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
We have seen so little thus far...

I think the fans that love this game are just nervous because it truly would be a tragedy if it flopped. I suppose the petition doesn't hurt anything though. If I were Blizz and I knew that the game had very dark sides to it which just haven't been demonstrated yet then I would just release some different screens. That or just dim the lights a little more hehe. In any case, I imagine parts of the game will look much darker and classic "diabloish" than others. I'm ok with variety.

Ya know, I jumped on board and signed the petition (mentioned only the character models bothered me) and then someone mentioned this. You're right, we've seen 20 slow-paced minutes of the game, who knows what else there is.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: jjanders
I know recommended specs haven't been released yet, and Blizzard has never been one to put out games that need the latest hardware, but does anyone have some rough guesses? I am looking to buy a new computer soon (nothing TOO fancy), but would want it to play D3. I assume getting a decent C2D and 2GB RAM and decent vid card should be fine?

I'm in the same boat. Built my box back in '04 and told myself I'd upgrade when D3 came out (if ever). Based soley from the video I'd say it shouldn't be terribly demanding. Also, with over a year left (probably) till it's release you can afford to wait longer and get better components for the same price as you could today.

 

[Aikouka]

I think I'm part of the minority that didn't like the original Diablo. It was way too short and I actually liked the idea of respawns, which didn't exist in Diablo.

One pressing question that should've been asked... will there be a cow level?

 

[Kelvrick]

I plan on upgrading when Starcraft 2 comes out. The same system shuld be able to run diablo 3 fine as well.

I can probably wait for the generation after the current crop, the Q9550, ATI4570 and 4gb ddr3.

Should be a great step up from my Opteron 165, X1800xt and 2gb pc3200.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
I plan on upgrading when Starcraft 2 comes out. The same system shuld be able to run diablo 3 fine as well.

I can probably wait for the generation after the current crop, the Q9550, ATI4570 and 4gb ddr3.

Should be a great step up from my Opteron 165, X1800xt and 2gb pc3200.

Pfft. I'm on a Athlon 64 3200+, X800 XT PE, and 1GB PC4000.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: kabob983

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
I plan on upgrading when Starcraft 2 comes out. The same system shuld be able to run diablo 3 fine as well.

I can probably wait for the generation after the current crop, the Q9550, ATI4570 and 4gb ddr3.

Should be a great step up from my Opteron 165, X1800xt and 2gb pc3200.

Pfft. I'm on a Athlon 64 3200+, X800 XT PE, and 1GB PC4000.

Athlon 64 3200+ ATi 9600 Vanilla, 512 PC3200

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: kabob983

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
I plan on upgrading when Starcraft 2 comes out. The same system shuld be able to run diablo 3 fine as well.

I can probably wait for the generation after the current crop, the Q9550, ATI4570 and 4gb ddr3.

Should be a great step up from my Opteron 165, X1800xt and 2gb pc3200.

Pfft. I'm on a Athlon 64 3200+, X800 XT PE, and 1GB PC4000.

Athlon 64 3200+ ATi 9600 Vanilla, 512 PC3200

These will all run starcraft 1 and diablo 2 very well. You guys for for a couple games?

Anyway, my problems are compounded when I do photo editing or play games at 1920x1280. :Q

 

[EarthwormJim]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, thread is pretty big, but that blue orb Easter Egg is on the blizzard main page.

The same one that when you click turns from blue to purple and does nothing. Same one that is on the battle.net screen in Diablo II

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
Not sure if this has been posted yet, thread is pretty big, but that blue orb Easter Egg is on the blizzard main page.

The same one that when you click turns from blue to purple and does nothing. Same one that is on the battle.net screen in Diablo II

the infamous "chat gem"