**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[nageov3t]

glad I'm not the only one thinking loot is lackluster... unless I get a "perfect" item, I've just been vendoring it because it's not worth the buggy AH hassle.

99% of my gear has come from the AH, not drops.

 

[StrangerGuy]

I've only played a DH (lvl 55 atm) but I can tell you, you can take some hits, but you are built to keep distance from stuff. Our abilities are to keep distance by slowing/rooting and doing more damage from afar. So yes, you'll be back pedaling a lot as a DH. I get lazy for a lot of monsters and just take the hits because they are going to die in a moment anyways, but in the higher difficulties this isn't really an option anymore.

People who are saying Inferno is designed to be hard is missing the point. Don't gimme that typical bullshit that you aren't geared enough; there is NO amount of gearing that can let you survive 100K+ hits done by trash mobs in act 4 inferno. This isn't real challenge, it's a cheap tactic masquerading as challenge.

 

[KaOTiK]

glad I'm not the only one thinking loot is lackluster... unless I get a "perfect" item, I've just been vendoring it because it's not worth the buggy AH hassle.

99% of my gear has come from the AH, not drops.

All of my gear has come from the AH. I get half ass drops for a DH. Thankfully I get good drops for other classes so I sell them and get what I need. Making as much gold as I can before the RMAH goes live. I want to buy the high end items I need before people start trying to sell them for a few bucks, I don't want to take part in the RMAH personally.

 

[Phoenix86]

I think part of the problem is that so many of the modifiers are underpowered. Really all that matters is damage/primary stat, vitality, damage, and resistances.

Oddly enough +primary stat on weapon is gravy, +damage, +attack speed, socket are the top the I'm thinking.

As far as the items dropping below your level I'm 99% sure that's how D2 was until you hit max level, then you had to do the harder modes to get 59-60 gear to drop. If lvl 60 gear dropped at lvl 58 on nightmare why grind lvl 60 hell/inferno?

 

[Phoenix86]

All of my gear has come from the AH. I get half ass drops for a DH. Thankfully I get good drops for other classes so I sell them and get what I need. Making as much gold as I can before the RMAH goes live. I want to buy the high end items I need before people start trying to sell them for a few bucks, I don't want to take part in the RMAH personally.

There will be an economy between in game gold vs $ so at some point it's worth more to sell on the gold market. Just depends on what that ratio is.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Oddly enough +primary stat on weapon is gravy, +damage, +attack speed, socket are the top the I'm thinking.

As far as the items dropping below your level I'm 99% sure that's how D2 was until you hit max level, then you had to do the harder modes to get 59-60 gear to drop. If lvl 60 gear dropped at lvl 58 on nightmare why grind lvl 60 hell/inferno?

The thing is even low level loot in D2 remained amazing even to the max level like Frostburns and Eye of Etlich. You can't say the same for the low level legendaries/rares in D3.

 

[KaOTiK]

Oddly enough +primary stat on weapon is gravy, +damage, +attack speed, socket are the top the I'm thinking.

As far as the items dropping below your level I'm 99% sure that's how D2 was until you hit max level, then you had to do the harder modes to get 59-60 gear to drop. If lvl 60 gear dropped at lvl 58 on nightmare why grind lvl 60 hell/inferno?

Sockets are a waste and really should be avoided actually. Best gem you can get is +58 iirc. That takes up a slot instead of another stat being randomly assigned to it which at higher level items will be in the 100+

 

[Harabec]

Sockets are fun at low levels though - with a ruby you can basically double your weapon's dps.
I saw that my ancient source for everything Diablo (dii.net) is now at incgamers. Lovely, informative forums.

 

[KaOTiK]

Yeah at low levels and if you happen to get say a chest piece with 3 sockets then you can just slap your primary stat into it as well. They really should not have made it so sockets take up another stats spot though.

 

[Soccerman06]

Sockets are a waste and really should be avoided actually. Best gem you can get is +58 iirc. That takes up a slot instead of another stat being randomly assigned to it which at higher level items will be in the 100+

A ruby gem in a 1.5+ weapon is much better than a 1.0 weapon with say int or str.

 

[KaOTiK]

A ruby gem in a 1.5+ weapon is much better than a 1.0 weapon with say int or str.

But a weapon say with 15% attack speed increase is better than having a socket. That socket takes up a slot that would go to something else. Granted having the socket can be better than quite a few other stats that can be put on there. In armor it screws you the most though.

 

[GoStumpy]

Just beat Diablo in Normal, w00t! Onto Nightmare!

Auction house has been great as long as the crap I'm selling is cheap, it seems to go!

I have probably 50 peices waiting to sell, lol :'(

 

[Fallengod]

I think the auction house is going to ultimately hurt the game further to be honest. It kind of ruins the whole idea of an item hunt/grind arpg heh. Dont you think?

I love the AH too and that just proves how much of a crutch it is now. No more item hunting, no more shopping. Blacksmithing is completely useless, they might as well remove that from the game now and D3 has only been out a week. All you gotta do is get gold and go to AH and buy your gear, kind of a broken mechanic.

Ive got a lvl 50 wiz at end of nightmare and a lvl 42 witchdoctor who I keep upgrading for through AH. I dont even bother looking at shops or upgrading blacksmithing.

Whatever happened to trading items and trade channels heh. Now of course trading is impossible because they dont even really have unique items with specific names that people can post unless it was on forum I guess. <sigh>

 

[Harabec]

I think the auction house is going to ultimately hurt the game further to be honest. It kind of ruins the whole idea of an item hunt/grind arpg heh. Dont you think?

hmm, well, yes. I'm still hoping for a complete revision of the item/drop system with useful uniques, decent loot drop rate and more. It seems the devs don't really grasp what made D2 fun for a lot of people - trying for that specific unique that has a 0.01% drop rate from boss X etc, In the meanwhile getting lower level useful stuff and just blowing up monsters.

Come to think about it, I think D2 was more about grinding items than gameplay challange. It sort of makes sense - after 2 months the gameplay is the same no matter what game you're playing but having and absurd level cap (99 and a chance at better and better items/runes/whatever always made you feel like you have something to do.

 

[flexy]

It kind of ruins the whole idea of an item hunt/grind arpg heh.

It can be fun to play and grind for selling and buying in the AH...i mean, *someone* must put the items in the AH...they don't pop up in there out of nowhere?

I think the idea of making the AH/trade (even for real money!) integral part of the game is a good one, in theory. The problem with exploits, botters etc. then is another one. Right now, my complaint is that the gear in the AH is much, much better and easier to obtain than what you can loot in the game since gold is so easy to obtain and there is certainly no lack on items in the AH. While many/most bosses dont drop anything of interest. But i think this can be tweaked.

 

[flexy]

By the way, i'd be interested if there will ever be addons for D3 such as we have for wow?

 

[flexy]

Diablo III, by the way, sold 3.5 Million copies in the first 24 hrs, and now after a week it sold 6.5 Mil copies.

6.5Mil * $60 = 390 Mil, give it a week or two and they made half a BILLION dollars. Can you even imagine?

 

[Udgnim]

I think if D3 did not have Inferno difficulty and just had Hell difficulty the way it is currently, GAH would have definitely hurt D3

I think GAH helps D3 with Inferno mode though because of Inferno mode's significant gear requirement. better upgrades are very accessible (assuming the buyer has the gold) and the buyer will want to recuperate costs of upgrades by selling whatever is found in Inferno and then just repeat the cycle

 

[blurredvision]

hmm, well, yes. I'm still hoping for a complete revision of the item/drop system with useful uniques, decent loot drop rate and more. It seems the devs don't really grasp what made D2 fun for a lot of people - trying for that specific unique that has a 0.01% drop rate from boss X etc, In the meanwhile getting lower level useful stuff and just blowing up monsters.

Come to think about it, I think D2 was more about grinding items than gameplay challange. It sort of makes sense - after 2 months the gameplay is the same no matter what game you're playing but having and absurd level cap (99 and a chance at better and better items/runes/whatever always made you feel like you have something to do.

You do realize you just described Diablo 3 as well, right? I think the fog of time has eroded people's memory of Diablo 2 and they somehow think it was any better than 3 in terms of what the game is ultimately aboue (hint: trying for specific armor while getting lower level stuff and just blowing up monsters).

 

[blurredvision]

According to a blue in the official forums, the public game hacking/spoofing rumor is BS:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271780588?page=2#39

 

[Chiropteran]

Sockets are a waste and really should be avoided actually. Best gem you can get is +58 iirc. That takes up a slot instead of another stat being randomly assigned to it which at higher level items will be in the 100+

The thing is "sockets" counts as 1 item mod, regardless of how many the item has. A lot of higher level chest armors have 3 sockets. So in theory, that is over 150 points of a stat for one affix. More importantly, it's a stat of your choice, and it can be a duplicate. That is you will never see "dexterity armor of dexterity", but you could see "socketed armor of dexterity" and nothing prevents you from putting 3 more dexterity gems in those sockets- so it lets you surpass the normal maximum values based on affixes.

Given that rares can have as many as 6 affixes and there are really only a few optimal affixes, sockets are pretty nice to see as one of the fillers.

Helm socket bonuses are very unique, I don't think any other affix beats a helm socket just for the amount of hp you can get out of it.

Sockets are also very nice on low level items, for alts. You will never find a level 15 sword with a +20 damage mod, but you can *easily get one with a socket and throw a radiant star ruby in it for that same bonus.

*(Easily in the sense that it will be possible to do if you have the money)

TL;DR- sockets are amazing, and all your best gear should have them.

 

[rstove02]

Wonder if eventually people will calculate the relative stat strengths for each class so that it would be easier to determine optimal stats to look for.

Currently for me am only using character DPS indicator to determine ups (within reason of course).

 

[slayer202]

The game is way too exploitable and glitchy right now, they need to patch some stuff ASAP. Newest thing I've noticed, the auctions I had up before the auction house went down last night are now non-searchable. They are listed on my selling page but it's impossible to find them. Awesome

 

[EDUSAN]

anybody knows what a WD needs besides intelligence for their minions to not suck?

i dont get what is all that with weapon damage ratio for skills. I can undertand it in a barb, monk, dh but on wizard/WD it makes no sense.

+intelligence is considered weapon damage? its not clear, i wish the skills would say the actual damage that they do and say somewhere else what is the ratio instead

The skill info sucks

 

[blurredvision]

anybody knows what a WD needs besides intelligence for their minions to not suck?

Don't think of your minions as dps, think of them as tanks to keep mobs off you while you finish them off. I was in the same boat early in the game until I realized how weak my character is. My dogs and gargantuan do a great job of keeping enemies occupied so I can kill them from afar with poison darts.

+intelligence is considered weapon damage? its not clear, i wish the skills would say the actual damage that they do and say somewhere else what is the ratio instead

Each point of intelligence is equal to +1% of your base damage. If your base damage is 100 and you have 100 total intellect across all items, then you effectively have 200 damage.