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KentState

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Oct 19, 2001
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On the second chapter of Hell and it really hasn't been that hard as long as I keep getting better gear off the AH. This was after 5 beers and feeling buzzed so I'm sure it would have been easier otherwise.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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People don't realize that, even if utilizing random characters, a short password can still be "cracked" using some sophisticated processing methods. Short ones, no matter how complicated, can be solved by modern computers between hours and days.
People don't take passwords seriously enough at times, and when it comes to battle.net accounts, there is quite a bit for willing individuals to take advantage of.

Rainbow Tables, kids... it's not just picnic decor in My Little Pony!
 

Fallengod

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2001
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Any strong folks here able to kill hell diablo for me so I can get past hell? My wiz is way too squishy still to take that sob.

Lmk.
 
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Imp

Lifer
Feb 8, 2000
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HOleee shite. Put an hour into nightmare solo today, and I am getting raped left and right. This is only the first act at level 36 with a barbarian. Most crafted and found items in nightmare are turd stats-wise (not armor) compared to most of the stuff I found back in normal, which is a major handicap.

Guess I'll try to stick to parties.
 

Kalmah

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2003
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damnit.. seriously. I got hacked. All my shit is gone. I've never played a public game or posted in any diablo-related forums. Time for a support ticket I guess. I was online a couple of hours ago. Came back and it's all gone.

edit: they left my gems but took everything else. It's mind boggling how this is possible. As far as anybody knows, my account doesn't even exist.

Double edit: My email is the same as what's on the anandtech forums.. so which one of you bastards did it?

triple edit: malwarebytes found nothing and AV is up to date. If it was some sort of webforum hacking they could have found my email and same password then logged into battlenet with them... then seriously, this is the only forum on the net that even knows I play diablo. And I am a dumbass for using the same password/email combination. It's hard to break old habits. I can't imagine that anandtech was compromised. I have since changed all of my passwords though. That leads me to believe that somehow, somebody is getting a hold of ip addresses currently logged into battlenet and somehow spoofing their way in. I don't know jack about networking.
 
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KentState

Diamond Member
Oct 19, 2001
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damnit.. seriously. I got hacked. All my shit is gone. I've never played a public game or posted in any diablo-related forums. Time for a support ticket I guess. I was online a couple of hours ago. Came back and it's all gone.

That sucks. Let us know what the resolution was.
 

Fallengod

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2001
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damnit.. seriously. I got hacked. All my shit is gone. I've never played a public game or posted in any diablo-related forums. Time for a support ticket I guess. I was online a couple of hours ago. Came back and it's all gone.

edit: they left my gems but took everything else. It's mind boggling how this is possible. As far as anybody knows, my account doesn't even exist.

Double edit: My email is the same as what's on the anandtech forums.. so which one of you bastards did it?

triple edit: malwarebytes found nothing and AV is up to date. If it was some sort of webforum hacking they could have found my email and same password then logged into battlenet with them... then seriously, this is the only forum on the net that even knows I play diablo. And I am a dumbass for using the same password/email combination. It's hard to break old habits. I can't imagine that anandtech was compromised. I have since changed all of my passwords though. That leads me to believe that somehow, somebody is getting a hold of ip addresses currently logged into battlenet and somehow spoofing their way in. I don't know jack about networking.


There has been talk and rumors that the vulernability is blizzards side and all evidence points to that.

People said theres some type of exploit involving peoples session id's or something. I dont know but it sure seems like thats the case here.
 

Kalmah

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2003
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There has been talk and rumors that the vulernability is blizzards side and all evidence points to that.

People said theres some type of exploit involving peoples session id's or something. I dont know but it sure seems like thats the case here.


The only character that lost stuff is my witch doctor(and my stash).. which coincidentally I've only played my WD this last week. If they had full access they would have taken from all characters... so yeah, it seems that they were only able to get into the character I have been playing... which points to an exploit other than actually logging in.
 

I4AT

Platinum Member
Oct 28, 2006
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Loving the irony of the always online DRM for security/integrity purposes, and yet people that have never done anything other than play alone are losing items en masse. So glad I decided to boycott this game until it's at least half price.
 

drebo

Diamond Member
Feb 24, 2006
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The only character that lost stuff is my witch doctor(and my stash).. which coincidentally I've only played my WD this last week. If they had full access they would have taken from all characters... so yeah, it seems that they were only able to get into the character I have been playing... which points to an exploit other than actually logging in.

I think it's far more likely, given all of the bugs that Blizzard has had with D3 and their servers, that no one's hacking anything. It's more likely that your items are simply lost in some database somewhere, where an index got changed or a primary key didn't update properly or a foreign key didn't save properly.

I think this is a far more likely scenario than mass hackings. Honestly, I'm surprised I haven't seen more speculation of a simple bug.

Items would be tied to a character (stash tied to account) via a simple primary/foreign key pair. One misconstructed query on one server instance related to a save routine (probably when you exit a game) would explain why it's relatively random and only affects some characters on some accounts.
 

flexy

Diamond Member
Sep 28, 2001
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damnit.. seriously. I got hacked. All my shit is gone. I've never played a public game or posted in any diablo-related forums. Time for a support ticket I guess. I was online a couple of hours ago. Came back and it's all gone.

edit: they left my gems but took everything else. It's mind boggling how this is possible. As far as anybody knows, my account doesn't even exist.

Double edit: My email is the same as what's on the anandtech forums.. so which one of you bastards did it?

triple edit: malwarebytes found nothing and AV is up to date. If it was some sort of webforum hacking they could have found my email and same password then logged into battlenet with them... then seriously, this is the only forum on the net that even knows I play diablo. And I am a dumbass for using the same password/email combination. It's hard to break old habits. I can't imagine that anandtech was compromised. I have since changed all of my passwords though. That leads me to believe that somehow, somebody is getting a hold of ip addresses currently logged into battlenet and somehow spoofing their way in. I don't know jack about networking.


I have a dumb question, hope you are not offended. Have you visited ANY diablo/gaming site where you made an account/password and use the same PW on diablo/wow/battle net?

This can also be some site you visited in the past (D3 related or WoW related)..and IN PARTICULAR if you go on any of those gold seller sites.

I only got hacked once, after i was so stupid to go on a wow gold seller site and used my same password for the site as i did with wow.

Edit: Or maybe you bought the game or any other game online? Simply..is there a remote chance you used the same PW on any other site in the past?
 
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flexy

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Sep 28, 2001
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Question for all you PROS

Here are some weapons:



One of them will yield HIGHER damage/dps than the other.

I want you to guess which one and would like an explanation WHY that one weapon will yield higher damage than the other one. Because i am simply at a loss with logic here...

Edit2: Related, the same problem finding out what the "best" weapon is if i replace this 2 hander with a ONE HANDER which has about the same weapon damage/weapon DPS.

According to my logic (since it's supposedly all about weapon DPS) getting a one-hander with exact the same weapon damage should be better since i would have an additional slot for an off-hand. (to further increase damage). Needless to say, if i put a one-hander there with the same weapon DPS...my damage is WAY lower than with the 2 hander. Means..it can not be only about plain weapon damage...?
 
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epidemis

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the severe shrke will yield higher dps. 53 more dexterity and 46% crit hit dmg yields more than 40 more dps
 

Dominato3r

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My friend just got hacked. Lost everything, gold, stash, gear.. anything they could get their hands on. His computer was clean, and he didn't click on any gold links. He did lack an authenticator though.

Seems like public lobbies might have a security issue because all he did was play with others.
 

flexy

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Sep 28, 2001
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the severe shrke will yield higher dps. 53 more dexterity and 46% crit hit dmg yields more than 40 more dps

You are of course correct. But what value has the "DPS" rating then? I mean, it's an average, yes, but i also assumed that the other stats are already factored in there? "Logic" would tell me the staff would be "better", but it is not. What criteria do you use if you look for a weapon?
 

Magusigne

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You guys must of have glossed over my question !!;p

Are there any weapon adjectives you look out for or have noticed being superior to others?

i.E. (Adjective) staff of (Name)
 

Tweak155

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There has been talk and rumors that the vulernability is blizzards side and all evidence points to that.

People said theres some type of exploit involving peoples session id's or something. I dont know but it sure seems like thats the case here.

I've been monitoring the D3 forums for the past week. I can give everyone here the full update and progress of things that took place:

- People getting hacked left and right
- People swear it is a session ID hack with YouTube video "proof" (I've watched them, they aren't proof other than it looks like items are getting stripped from the other player, which could be the person themself just to get attention on youtube)
- Blizzard responds saying they've only encountered compromised accounts where traditional methods were used (I.E people are logging in with UN/PW and so the players were "hacked"), and NO accounts with Mobile / Physical authenticators have been found to be hacked when it was attached PRIOR to incident. Additionally, the number of hacked accounts is extremely small, even though Blizzard does mention it is typical with new game releases that people are targeted the most in that new-release time frame.
- People continue to blame Blizzard
- Blizzard responds directly to the Session ID theory by saying it has been proven to be technically impossible to use THAT specific method, and they have no data from existing hacked accounts that supports it. Still no cases of hacked accounts where Authenticator was attached.
- Most people say well it is STILL Blizzard, and some still hold to session ID since more and more people are posting about their hacked account. It is just TOO MANY to be traditional phishing e-mails or keyloggers

That is just about it. I've not yet seen proof of an account with an Authenticator attached (Mobile / Physical - the Dial-In is not supported by D3), which leans towards other people's systems being the issue. However, I have seen a few posts that got me wondering because some people will open tickets since their items are wiped and Blizzard says no form of unauthorized access was found. I've seen a handful, so that does suggest something odd.

Also I know why some items are left and not all players are always wiped clean on an account.

They are using bots. Basically they jump into your account, friend someone you've never heard of (If you've been hacked, go ahead and check your friends list). They then join that game and throw your stuff on the ground. A bot (the friend that is now on your list) runs around, picks up your stuff and sells it. They don't remove all your stuff because they fear they will run out of time and it isn't worth taking every single item you own before you log back on and kick them off or change your password. Since it is a new game, people are generally playing "all the time".

Anyway that is my report. I'm still waiting to actually play the game, haha

EDIT:

If that person is still on your friends list, you can join the game and watch them do their thing. Since bots are doing all the work, you'll just see people join the game, drop stuff, then leave the game. It isn't recommended you take any of the items as it could lead Blizzard to trace to you and you are now in trouble. But this is how it was discovered.

EDIT EDIT:

The other method they can use is the person goes to the stash, sells all their stuff, then trades the gold to the account just standing there.
 
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Kalmah

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Oct 2, 2003
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I have a dumb question, hope you are not offended. Have you visited ANY diablo/gaming site where you made an account/password and use the same PW on diablo/wow/battle net?

This can also be some site you visited in the past (D3 related or WoW related)..and IN PARTICULAR if you go on any of those gold seller sites.

I only got hacked once, after i was so stupid to go on a wow gold seller site and used my same password for the site as i did with wow.

Edit: Or maybe you bought the game or any other game online? Simply..is there a remote chance you used the same PW on any other site in the past?

I was considering this possibility. The only thing I could come up with that I know I've visited are those 'class build' pages... you know the one where you can design a build in the web page then save it or share it with others. I remember clicking a link to a build and it wasn't showing up(just an empty template) Thinking maybe I had to log in I logged in and still an empty template. I suppose it could have been a phishing attempt with a duplicate looking site..
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian Like this to be specific.

I doubt it though. I'm pretty cautious and tend to pay attention to the address bar.
 

Kalmah

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Oct 2, 2003
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I think it's far more likely, given all of the bugs that Blizzard has had with D3 and their servers, that no one's hacking anything. It's more likely that your items are simply lost in some database somewhere, where an index got changed or a primary key didn't update properly or a foreign key didn't save properly.

I think this is a far more likely scenario than mass hackings. Honestly, I'm surprised I haven't seen more speculation of a simple bug.

Items would be tied to a character (stash tied to account) via a simple primary/foreign key pair. One misconstructed query on one server instance related to a save routine (probably when you exit a game) would explain why it's relatively random and only affects some characters on some accounts.


This seems probable.
 

EDUSAN

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i finished normal with my wizard (lvl 38), now im in act2 almost finishing with her and in act 1 with my lvl 33 WD

i had so much trouble killing enemies with my wizard, all my stuff came from playing. then a friend gave me a weapon cause he said i was doing too little damage. so i equipped it and dps went to hell.
I didnt think that the little number of the weapon damage could really make such a difference.
I had a 1 weapon 35 dps + offhand and i changed it to a ~100 2handed staff. And my damage went from 250 to 700. I couldnt believe it lol

So i switched to my WD, checked the AH for a 2handed weapon with a socket and intelligence. I was using 1hand + mojo with 45dps and changed ito a ~80 2handed and the damage went super high too like 650. Now its a walk in the park

Btw, i used to think that summoning WD sucked but i just found a little mechanic that seems to be working great. Zombie dogs with the zombie dogs passive (lets you have 4 and 5% of respawning one when an enemy dies close) + sacrifice (explodes all the zombie dogs for like 250% weapon damage with the rune of 35% chance of respawning a zombie dog) + gargantua and its being great fun

go into a pack of enemies, blow up your zombie dogs... EVERYTHING DIES and maybe 1 or 2 dogs respawn alone. if not, cast again zombie dogs. If i go against an elite with my 4 zombie dogs and blow them up its 250% weapon damage x 4 (80 wd x 5 intellignce x 2,5 skill = 1000 damage for each dog)

im a genious i know (?)
 

Imp

Lifer
Feb 8, 2000
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Wow on the hacking. Should go and change my password to something different than the one I use for more "important" websites.

Jokes on the hackers if I do get hacked: I've put in less than 10 hours probably and have turd for gear.
 
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