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gothamhunter

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They're not meant to be the primary in the sense that "Legendary in every slot" isn't intended to be what everyone chases as the "best" and that even premier legendaries will have more of a 'give and take' relationship with exceptionally itemized rares.

The problem is that the more or less part with the legendaries is that they're more or less equal to equipment 10 or so levels below them, if that considering they could have awful stat combinations.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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I thought legendaries were just supposed to look really cool.

which might make sense for a weapon, but less so for bracers.
 

thespyder

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This is the shit that I'm tired of seeing. I did not buy anything or do anything outside of just playing the fucking game. This is why I keep stating that Blizzard is blaming the customer. They are assuming this is what I've done.

Anyways, fuck it. I don't care anymore. I've been hitting refresh on my support ticket page for 2 days now waiting for a response.

I feel your pain. If you didn't do anything wrong, why do people keep on doubting on you? it just ain't right man.

It is a horrible thing that in today's world, just about anything can be hacked. And you don't have to be computer illiterate in order for it to happen. Hackers are continuing to find back doors into systems wherever they feel that they can make a few bucks. Equally as unfortunate is the fact that Blizzard came out with a game that was ripe for the taking for these hackers.
 

Kabob

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No, I agree with SMOG, the issue is that the Legendaries are completely outclassed in every way by a half decent rare item. Why change the name from "Unique" to "Legendary" if you're going to make it inherently un-legendary? I've found four legendary items so far and all went straight to the auction house, they were garbage compared to anything I can find in the AH for 2000 gold...

Make them GOOD items, they don't have to completely blow everything out of the water but make them at least comparable if not slightly better than a top tier rare item.
 

SMOGZINN

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Jun 17, 2005
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They're not meant to be the primary in the sense that "Legendary in every slot" isn't intended to be what everyone chases as the "best" and that even premier legendaries will have more of a 'give and take' relationship with exceptionally itemized rares.

I understand that, what I am asking is why are they 'Legendary'? It apparently is not because they are better. So, why should I be excited to see them? What is their purpose as a whole other level of items, a level that is always listed as the topmost?
 

DrunkenSano

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Aug 8, 2008
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This is the shit that I'm tired of seeing. I did not buy anything or do anything outside of just playing the fucking game. This is why I keep stating that Blizzard is blaming the customer. They are assuming this is what I've done.

Anyways, fuck it. I don't care anymore. I've been hitting refresh on my support ticket page for 2 days now waiting for a response.

Read the whole thing, not just certain parts to make it seem like Blizzard is out to screw the players. They're not, they're just stated a sad reality in gaming and technology these days.

As much as you hate to see it, Blizzard isn't gaining or winning anything from this mess. In fact, they are losing as well. Losing more than what people with compromised accounts are losing. People lose virtual items, which suck, in the end are still just virtual items. Blizzard is losing resources and money investigating all these tickets and finding a solution.
 

Llwellyn

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I heard Onyxia deep breathes more.

The Tuskers are hitting harder, too. :biggrin:

Since they haven't released the patch notes yet (that I'm aware of) it is possible they changed some of your skills. I doubt they reitemized any of your equipment, since they aren't planning on doing that with the legendaries when they change them.
 

Fallengod

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The Tuskers are hitting harder, too. :biggrin:

Since they haven't released the patch notes yet (that I'm aware of) it is possible they changed some of your skills. I doubt they reitemized any of your equipment, since they aren't planning on doing that with the legendaries when they change them.

They did release the patch notes, quite a while ago as well...
 

Kalmah

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Oct 2, 2003
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From the same article.

Nice catch.


Ok guys, let's try something constructive. Let's assume I have malware that malwarebytes and my antivirus wont catch(since I did get hacked); my computer could be contributing to a botnet of some sort if this is the case. The obvious solution is to format.

Let's also say that I have limited-install versions of Microsoft Office and a very expensive version of Dreamweaver on my computer. I may actually be at the install limits and am in the middle of some classes that require these programs.

If I format I may be screwed as I can't re-purchase this stuff right now.

Is there another solution to removing an undetectable problem that may or may not be imaginary?

My router is not showing any weirdness in its security logs, neither do I see anything suspicious in windows firewall.(windows7) If it was something of this sort they should be ringing bells and alarms right?

So it seems a botnet shouldn't be feasible.

Ok, so how about a keylogger that deletes itself after sending my password information... Should my windows firewall have popped up a warning when this information is sent? The hardware firewall in my router is serving double duty as well.

So that leaves 2 more things. Browser vulnerabilities. An ad, flash, phishing etc...

I have these installed in firefox:
NoScript
AdBlock Plus
BetterPrivacy
Ghostery

That leaves one more possibility: social engineering or phishing.
I've looked through my browser history for the last 2 weeks. The only thing Diablo related that I gave my password to is battlenet. Nothing else fishy in the history.

Which comes down to the final thing: Blizzards' end. I can't deny or confirm this. I've quite thoroughly inspected my system to the best of my ability. I don't want to contribute or have re-occuring problems because of something I can't detect.

Now, since all of my securities didn't catch this the first time, if I was to format and put the same securities back what's going to stop it from happening a second time? Obviously the authenticator that is on its way in the mail will help. But if it is in fact something that got onto my computer, I would like to keep it off regardless if the authenticator will keep me safe.

I'm pretty sure that I've covered all my bases here. All the way down to never playing a public game or even adding fiends to my friends list.

What else can I be accused of?

Edit: I'm going to Big Boy, anybody want anything while I'm out? Onion rings!! :awe:
 
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DrunkenSano

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Just suck it up to bad luck, get your stuff restored from Blizzard and attach the authenticator when it arrives. Then go back to gaming, I'm not sure why you are giving so much grief over this issue.
 

Kalmah

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Oct 2, 2003
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I don't believe you

You got me, I purposely practice ignorance then preach against it. I'm looking for solutions, not d3 fanboy tools.

Tell me your 'secret' to not getting hacked please? You must be covering something that has been an oversight on my part?
 

Kalmah

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Oct 2, 2003
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Just suck it up to bad luck, get your stuff restored from Blizzard and attach the authenticator when it arrives. Then go back to gaming, I'm not sure why you are giving so much grief over this issue.


I really am done with it. Believe me. I like to get the final word in.. lol.
 

Llwellyn

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They did release the patch notes, quite a while ago as well...

Yep, you're right. Nothing in there seemed like it would affect damage at all, now that I've read them. Yay for Monk skill rune changes to replace what got nerfed; I'll have to try that out when I get home.
 

darkewaffle

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I understand that, what I am asking is why are they 'Legendary'? It apparently is not because they are better. So, why should I be excited to see them? What is their purpose as a whole other level of items, a level that is always listed as the topmost?

Neato custom appearances and a higher ceiling. The difference between a unique in D2 and a legendary in D3 is that their stats in D2 were largely set in stone except for small variation in a given range for set stats. Which means that they're more predictable and reliable, but would never really create anything phenomenal, and as such most of them were soon passed over for runewords with most of the uniques unable to ever keep pace.

Legendaries (all of them? not sure) can have various random magical properties attached to them and their innate stats are subject to more randomization than D2. As such, this means that you'll see more 'bad' legendaries, but it also gives them greater potential and lasting power. For now, there simply haven't been that many dropped; at least not enough for people to start seeing the top tier of legendaries with truly good mods attached to them. Once people see a Grandfather or a Windforce or with a bunch of added elemental damage or a Wizardspike with +40-50% damage attached to it they'll start singing a different tune I think. To be sure, those items will be few and far between, but that's what makes them Legendary.
 

Fallengod

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Uniques in D2 were more straight forward and offered special abilities that usually were impossible on rares. D3 lost that. D3's legendary items are basically just rare items since the stats can all change and since D3 lacks any interesting itemization abilities as well.
 

Kabob

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Sep 5, 2004
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Neato custom appearances and a higher ceiling. The difference between a unique in D2 and a legendary in D3 is that their stats in D2 were largely set in stone except for small variation in a given range for set stats. Which means that they're more predictable and reliable, but would never really create anything phenomenal, and as such most of them were soon passed over for runewords with most of the uniques unable to ever keep pace.

Legendaries (all of them? not sure) can have various random magical properties attached to them and their innate stats are subject to more randomization than D2. As such, this means that you'll see more 'bad' legendaries, but it also gives them greater potential and lasting power. For now, there simply haven't been that many dropped; at least not enough for people to start seeing the top tier of legendaries with truly good mods attached to them. Once people see a Grandfather or a Windforce or with a bunch of added elemental damage or a Wizardspike with +40-50% damage attached to it they'll start singing a different tune I think. To be sure, those items will be few and far between, but that's what makes them Legendary.

So you're saying that I'm supposed to hope for the randomized small chance that my "legendary" item will actually be legendary? There's an infinitely greater chance that one of the 50,000 rares will have those same "legendary" stats and still be better than said "legendary" item.

So now I'm hoping for a legendarier legendary? Yay, this is fun...

Just make them good all around, sure, keep a bit of the randomization, but at the moment (despite what you claim) they're ALL outdone by rares.
 

GWestphal

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Can someone explain to me how Wizards have 30-40K damage and 30-40K HP? There are 12 item slots and lets say you could even find 150 Int/Vit for each one (I haven't seen any in the AH), that gets you 18x DMG. You'd need to have a 2000 DPS weapon. I suppose if you count Magic Weapon and/or Sparkflint you could get down to 1500 DPS, but highest I've seen in the AH is ~1000

Could some lvl 60 Wizard post their gear and the Int/Vit/DMG for each?
 

ViviTheMage

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So you're saying that I'm supposed to hope for the randomized small chance that my "legendary" item will actually be legendary? There's an infinitely greater chance that one of the 50,000 rares will have those same "legendary" stats and still be better than said "legendary" item.

So now I'm hoping for a legendarier legendary? Yay, this is fun...

Just make them good all around, sure, keep a bit of the randomization, but at the moment (despite what you claim) they're ALL outdone by rares.

Blizzard labeled Legendary wrong, they should be unique's ... not legendary in the aspect of they will always be better then rares.
 
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