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Ben90

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It's stupid in a way that every item generated by a loot oriented game can in theory stay in circulation forever. Within a year at this rate even the level 60 best items will sell for 1000 gold vs. 5 million because there will be tens of thousands floating around
I think you are underestimating the rarity of the best items. How many 2174 DPS Doom Hammers with a Socket and max Crit Damage with max strength or max Crit % do you see on the auction house?

I doubt even one of these has dropped yet.

Hell, even non-perfect items in D2 still go for stupid amounts of money.
*edit*
Just checked, and converted. Price chart of most expensive d2 item into d2jsp gold -> d3 gold -> Goldspammers $
$428.86
 
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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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another day passed that i cant sell any item...even for 5/10/20 bucks

:,(

Good.
If you bought Diablo 3 just to grind away for loot and sell items I hate you. You're whats wrong with America. Nobody wants to work a real fucking job any more.
I cant even get hired and guys like you are pissing away opportunities.


Of course, if you bought the game just to have fun and wanna sell off excess crap to help other people out, then ignore everything I just said.
 

EDUSAN

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ill ignore everything u just said.
Ill admit im farming items, but in fact im doing it to be able to play act2 inferno, but everything kinda good that i wont use, goes to the RMAH, cant sell them though

btw, i have a real fucking job, but as i dont live in USA, dollars are worth x4 of my money. If i get to sell 4 $250 items per month i would be getting like HALF my monthly payment in the real fucking job, its a pretty neat bonus
 

darkewaffle

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I think people are really overestimating what the 'drop rates' change is actually going to do.

With that said, I'll reiterate, you can find items worth millions of gold in any of the 4 acts in Inferno as it is, and even as a barbarian that's cleared inferno only one piece of my gear is the 'top tier' stuff (archon), most of it it still "doom" or "warlord" (item level 61 and 60 respectively, both available in A1).

Two of my biggest sales came from A1 in fact, a 3M quiver and a 1.9M pair of pants.
 

EDUSAN

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and what is actually the difference?

what is the act1 inferno ilvl 61 drop rate right now?
 

BadgerYou

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and what is actually the difference?

what is the act1 inferno ilvl 61 drop rate right now?


Previously you could not obtain ilvl 63/62 items in act 1. now you can safely farm act 1 for a chance at this gear at a reduced rate. its give and take. lower drop rate, but faster clear.

they don't state previous drop rates of ilvl61 gear
 

BadgerYou

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As noted, the sheer volume of items will increase, there will just be a larger discrepancy in pricing from the best combination of stats vs. the marginal and poor.
 

slayer202

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Last night I spent about 4m gold and $40 in balance to gear up my wizard in a few spots I was lacking. Still didn't like what I ended up with. Time to quit :/

I'm completely bored. No leveling. No need to build a new character. No need to MF. No pvp.

I truly rather play D2, it's by far the better game, still.
 

Feneant2

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Reading these it's obvious I don't know much about itemization. Can someone tell me what the item names are based on quality? And what are the max of a spec you can have per item? For example I got a rare last night with 6 different magic effects vs the usual 3-4 and I still can't tell if that means it's any better.

When I buy, same thing, I'll put Vitality >100, Strength >50 and buy whatever is cheaper!
 

railven

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Played about 30 hours of this game. I haven't really been wanting to play anymore.

That must say something about the game... :/

Tells me it isn't the game for you.


Side note, a new friend started playing, grinding another toon up with him. Having a blast.

Sort of feel OP since I have a few low level items I saved with sockets and I put star gems in them haha.
 

BadgerYou

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Reading these it's obvious I don't know much about itemization. Can someone tell me what the item names are based on quality? And what are the max of a spec you can have per item? For example I got a rare last night with 6 different magic effects vs the usual 3-4 and I still can't tell if that means it's any better.

When I buy, same thing, I'll put Vitality >100, Strength >50 and buy whatever is cheaper!

The name of an item when it drops is just a barometer. ie. the words Warlord Gloves etc. Once the item is ID'd that falls off the name of the item. Stats will be generated after the fact. There are instances were a ilvl 61 item will beat out a ilvl62/63 item. So I wouldn't worry about that too much. Just keep doing what your doing and narrow down fields based on the stats you want. Generally the ilvl62/63 items are allocated more "chances" at higher values of armor/stats etc.

For example an ilvl61 may have a chance at 45-75 of a certain stat, an ilvl 62/63 might get a range of 65-105 but that doesnt stop you from getting an ilvl 61 item with 75 of said stat and then the ilvl 62/63 rolls out a 65 of that same stat. Generally why armor upgrades still fall in act 1, but not so much for weapons. Weapons are the biggest upgrades found at the higher acts since the weapon damage upgrades for the white items which the base starts higher then gets affected by the modifiers

My thoughts are scattered since I'm typing this at work.
 
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Adrenaline

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I can't find anything for my WD that is under 500K for what my needs are. I soloed Inferno Act I but I won't even attempt Act II until 1.03 hits and I can actually find my gear myself instead of spending countless millions of gold in the AH.

My WD is in Act 4 Inferno with a bunch of junky gear it seems. It can be done, have some patience.
 

darkewaffle

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Reading these it's obvious I don't know much about itemization. Can someone tell me what the item names are based on quality? And what are the max of a spec you can have per item? For example I got a rare last night with 6 different magic effects vs the usual 3-4 and I still can't tell if that means it's any better.

When I buy, same thing, I'll put Vitality >100, Strength >50 and buy whatever is cheaper!

Item level 63 = "Archon" armor
Item level 62 = "Sovereign" armor (also this is the top level for crafted items)
Item level 61 = "Doom" armor
Item level 60 = "Warlord" armor

Though the names aren't always that clear. For example, item level 62 Shoulders are simply called "Pallium" and item level 61 pants are called "Schuynbalds" (something like that). Also weapons all use their own completely individual names so that's really just a matter of getting accustomed to their names (eg: when I get a rare Rune Sword I am excited, when I get a rare Strong Sword I am not lol)

Unfortunately you can't tell the 'base' item once an item has been identified by anything other than the appearance, but once it's identified all that really matters are the stats themselves which are a result of the random mods.

In my experience, I believe higher item level items have a higher 'ceiling' for their mod properties, but I think it is also possible that could be a result of the item dropping from higher monster level enemies. Personally I would not be surprised if the two stats work in coord to determine the final item properties, such that a level 60 item dropped off a level 60 enemy would have less 'power' on average than a level 60 item dropped off a level 63 enemy; however that is purely conjecture.

Just how many mods you receive can be tough to tell. For instance, I have a set of "Doom" boots ("Doom Treads") with something like 130 Str, 140 Vit, and 57 resist all. How many properties is that? Could be as few as two, could be as many as five I think because a property can be a "single" or "combo" and they tend to be additive ( to a cap? ).

For instance, my boots could break down any number of ways.

Property 1 = 130 str, Property 2 = 140 vit, Property 3 = 57 resist all

Property 1 = 70 Vit and 57 resist all, Property 2 = 130 str and 70 vit

Property 1 = 100 Str, Property 2 = 100 vit, Property 3 = 57 resist, Property 4 = 30 str and 40 vit

I would guess that there is some randomization in the number of properties that occur and I think higher item level items have a greater chance of having a higher number of properties, as I feel like when I browse the auction house that many Archon pieces have a very wide array of stats. Also in my experience I think +armor and +sockets may be independently determined outside of the random mods system, but again that's just how it feels to me.

The D3 game guide that Blizzard has up is actually very complete and can help give a better understanding of the items you're seeing and how they relate to each other.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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ill ignore everything u just said.
Ill admit im farming items, but in fact im doing it to be able to play act2 inferno, but everything kinda good that i wont use, goes to the RMAH, cant sell them though

btw, i have a real fucking job, but as i dont live in USA, dollars are worth x4 of my money. If i get to sell 4 $250 items per month i would be getting like HALF my monthly payment in the real fucking job, its a pretty neat bonus

:thumbsup:
 

darkewaffle

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Oct 7, 2005
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For anyone looking for a gauge, the ring I sold yesterday for $22 was something like 80 Str, 80 Vit, 170 armor and +6% life.
 

slayer202

Lifer
Nov 27, 2005
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EDU, post an item(without your asking price) and we'll tell you how much you should be selling it for.
 

EDUSAN

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i cant, im at work...

i know they are not TOO good items, but people could at least BID for them extremely cheap

but seing that people is selling all kind of crappy stuff for a lot of money i just think that maybe for 5-10 bucks i could sell a more crapy one

ill try to take a screenshots of the items later
 
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