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Bill Brasky

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So they won't retroactively update legendarys with the new changes but they will retroactively nerf existing IAS gear? Oh, I guess because both scenarios will generate more RMAH revenue. Blizzard, you suck.

Basically just making the game more difficult than it already is to create RMAH transactions.

What % does blizzard take from each transaction again?

edit: I just read on the Diablo forums inferno will be nerfed accordingly, so I take it back for now. We'll see if there is balance.
 
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Zenoth

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Jan 29, 2005
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About the whole IAS thing...

* shrugs *

I'm still using a 0.90 IAS 2-handed Mace with absolutely zero increase to base IAS speed from other items or skills, I even primarily use Cleave, not Frenzy. It's slow, but still hits hard. Sure, the faster I attack, the more times I hit, but each one of my hits are still doing the same damage, IAS does not "add damage", it just applies it faster, provided you can get to your target to start with if you're a Barbarian in Act II. I can understand why IAS is important for a Demon Hunter though, or perhaps a Wizard as well, not sure about the Witch Doctor or the Monk for now. I have the feeling that of course most of the complaints regarding the IAS nerf will come from the numberless Demon Hunters populating Inferno difficulty past Act II.

As a side note, before my current Barb build "became" (by choice, due to preferences) what it currently is, I was using dual weapons with Frenzy until later in Nightmare difficulty, which is when I switched from that to 2-handed with Cleave. I DID liked to hit fast with lots of IAS but I found it was taking too long anyway to kill most mobs. It's easier for me (until Act II Inferno) to go the slower 2-handed route with zero IAS but dealing enough raw damage in a single hit to clean most - if not all - of the way before me. The only thing I really do need to be careful about is that some mobs happen to have a fast attack animation compared to others, so that some mobs will have the time to complete their first attack animation and hit me before my own attack animation from my 2-handed weapon swing can complete, so even if I were to "click first", those mobs' attacks would hit me first since they attack faster (obvious), but that isn't the case for all mobs.

I have the feeling that most mobs' base attack speed is 1.0, while mine is at 0.90 (attacks per second). To make a "tangible" different I would need to bring it to 1.10, and that would mean spending way too much at the GAH for IAS on my maces, no thanks. I'd rather pay for Strength and Vitality on them even if they "only" attack at 0.90 per second. With Cleave and Rupture I make short work of even the highest numbered packs of mobs. That is, of course, until we speak of Act II Inferno, when ALL I do falls apart and nothing works anymore lest I completely change my play-style by force, rather than by choice, which in turn would mean that I got bored of the game.
 
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Adrenaline

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Since finishing act 4 is there anything left to do?

I really really really really enjoy farming.

They are reducing IAS and reducing monster health next patch, so theoretically they do nothing to benefit the player.
 
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Anubis

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i just did act 1 inferno on my wiz and 1/2 of act 2, act 1 was a joke and act 2 is only slightly more annoying because more stuff just appears/leaps at you, and my wiz has shit for gear, the ONLY upgrade ive gotten since hell was a wep i bought for 10k on the AH (800 DPS 1 hander with zero stats)

i do 28k DPS with magic wep and died more to the spiders in act 1 then any elite pack yet
 

Imp

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Okay... think my addiction is over. Act 1 Inferno is now easy in parties and solo for my barb. Act 2 is still impossible for me and the 5 or so groups I've played with after running into the first elite pack - we all get killed right outside town. The stupidest/biggest problem is life drain that elites spew once the are close to dying. It covers half your screen, so you can't run fast/far enough.

Resists are now at 800+ post-bugg, 40k health, 13k dps, but armor a bit low. Going to wait until the Inferno nerf before putting much more effort into it.
 

Wardawg1001

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Sep 4, 2008
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Alright.

Could I see your gear sometime? It might help me get a mindset of what to aim for.

I wont bother to post everything, but here are the major stats:

900 dps weapon with 900+ life on hit (and a gem which give +300 life on hit)
Chest piece with 70+ res, 100+ vit, 48str
Belt - 70+ all rs, 124 str
Lesgs - this is my my weakest spot, its about about ~40 all res, 100 vit, and nothing else much useful
Boots - 80 all res, 47 phys res, 70+ str/vit
Shoulders - 214 str, some vit I think, 60+ all res
Gloves - 70ish str/vit, 15% increase attack speed, 7% crit chance
Bracers - another weak spot, only 40ish resist all, not great on stats 50-70 on str/vit, but its got 4% crit chance which is a key component of my build
Helm of Command - Vit, high life%, and an empty socket (have 15% life in it right now)
Stormshield (not a top level one, only paid 14 ml versus the 20-25 mil the 32 block chance ones with good rolls are going for)
Amulet - another weak spot, its got decent strength and some crit chance, but I'm looking for something with str, vit, atk speed, and crit damage.
Ring 1 - pretty weak, no stats worth mentioning really
Ring 2 - 160+ vit, 15% ias, 8%life

Basically all I need to move up to inferno A4 is upgrades on Ring 1 (looking for atk speed, vit, life%, and crit damage), my chest (its capable of SO much more stats, esp with sockets), my legs which are absysmal, and the amulet.

To be honest, to get the gear I want in these spots is probably going to cost in the range of 100+ mil, but I have bids out on a couple of these items already that shouldnt allow me to at least farm A3 with ease.
 

Wardawg1001

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so with the IAS nerf coming for 1.0.3
what should i be looking for in armor for the DH?

dex + crit + ias still?

vital+resist is useless for inferno so i won't bother with that and just go glass cannon

I don't think the ISA nerf will be that severe, and it will still most likely be a very valuable statistic for many builds. I think Blizzards goal is just to make it more of a niche stat, rather than absolute must have for almost everyone.
 

fustercluck

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If anyone wants to let me in on some Pony runs (hell or inferno) send me a PM! I got magic find out the ear.
 

darkxshade

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Though I play a monk and IAS nerf hurts, it really doesn't bother me too much. I actually enjoy trying out new builds and retooling around it... not to mention I derive a certain amount of satisfaction from making significant monetary gains from dumping my gear as a result of such endeavors.

The things is, Blizzard is probably nerfing IAS because they are simultaneously nerfing Inferno. They're trying to balance the classes so without the full picture, I we can't really tell how it'll affect each class individually. So at least on the facade, it seems like they are nerfing melee some more which may still be true but at the same time, they might have also increased melee survivability.


So I've actually sold off all of my IAS gear and now I'm going default weapon speed and stacking LoH heavy LoH + life steal and focusing on crit dps.
 

railven

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Just got through Inferno Act 1...

Act 2 is definitely a wall haha. I'll have to revisit my gear. It's not the best, but I had no issue clearing Act 1.
 

Zebo

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i just did act 1 inferno on my wiz and 1/2 of act 2, act 1 was a joke and act 2 is only slightly more annoying because more stuff just appears/leaps at you, and my wiz has shit for gear, the ONLY upgrade ive gotten since hell was a wep i bought for 10k on the AH (800 DPS 1 hander with zero stats)

i do 28k DPS with magic wep and died more to the spiders in act 1 then any elite pack yet

How do you do 28K DPS? My weapon is 627 and my int is 1700 and I only do 14,000, or half. I get owned in inferno. One shoted all the time. Kiting all the time. Game sucks IMO @ inferno where it's just not possible without hundred million in gold at AH or a couple thousand at RMAH to proceed. No longre about skills, stats, and finding/grinding decent items - D3 is a 100% item based game which can only be had at AH. Anyone who says they are making inferno runs w/o AH is lying.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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That's for commodities. Blizzard takes $1 for weapons/armor.

They might take 100% if they are selling them. No rule says they can't. Seems way more profitable to me to get 100% of a $250 ring than $1.
 

Soccerman06

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How do you do 28K DPS? My weapon is 627 and my int is 1700 and I only do 14,000, or half. I get owned in inferno. One shoted all the time. Kiting all the time. Game sucks IMO @ inferno where it's just not possible without hundred million in gold at AH or a couple thousand at RMAH to proceed. No longre about skills, stats, and finding/grinding decent items - D3 is a 100% item based game which can only be had at AH. Anyone who says they are making inferno runs w/o AH is lying.

I only have 1400 int, its not all about int, try ias and crit gear. Remember you should have vit on every item if possible
 

Anubis

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How do you do 28K DPS? My weapon is 627 and my int is 1700 and I only do 14,000, or half. I get owned in inferno. One shoted all the time. Kiting all the time. Game sucks IMO @ inferno where it's just not possible without hundred million in gold at AH or a couple thousand at RMAH to proceed. No longre about skills, stats, and finding/grinding decent items - D3 is a 100% item based game which can only be had at AH. Anyone who says they are making inferno runs w/o AH is lying.

im up to 31k now got upgrades for head and offhand





this is what i use as a setup

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#aQlSOR!dYf!cYbZYb

ill gladly show you my gear, but its really nothing special, everything has been found while playing. most of my stuff isnt even lvl 60, my DH does like 2x the DPS as the wizz but has 20x less survivability. in act 1 the only mobs that really give me issues are ones that are naturally FAST with a FAST attrib, just cant keep them away

also damage reflect sucks ass, makes the venom hydra your own worst enemy
 
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Zebo

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Thanks guys. Will have to look for ias and crit gear. I only have like 1 million gold so I'm too broke for good AH items. I retardedly spend about 2 million at blacksmith and didnt get shit but 1 H staff I use and a decent sword used to use and sold for 85k early in game.


Aubis - your armor is 1000 higher than me but resists are ~ 100 lower. I get owned melee one shotted all the time but can survive a elite spell caster...kiting/running.
 
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N4n45h1

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I finally broke 100k dps on my dh... never has reflect damage ever hurt so much

If I time ss incorrectly, then one nether tentacle into the pack can pretty much end me...

Also, I didn't see it mentioned, but it may be important to try to get other stats over ias for now. Apparently they're going to nerf it considerably. Basically, the ias stat will be cut in half. From what I've read, quivers will not be nerfed, so I just bought a 17% ias black bone arrows quiver.
 
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