**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[SS Trooper]

I'm not finding the repair cost that bad. I tried to finish Act2 Inferno over the weekend and probably spent 200k on repairs. (Just could not get Belial down before enrage) Even with that massive failure I only did 1 or 2 butcher runs and recouped most of my losses. Came out ahead after running Act 3 NM on an alt. No AH sales at all.

I plan on killing Belial today, just need to rework my build a little to optimize dps.

 

[DrunkenSano]

true.

still better then D3 where they nerfed finding items an high repair cost. so you spend all your gold on repairs and to make progress you kinda need the AH and stuff is expensive on that.

If you're dying more than you are gaining in Inferno, it's probably time to step the difficulty down a notch and farm easier stuff to get money for better gear or wait for the amazing stuff to drop for you.

 

[Magusigne]

Found a Belt I sold for 3 Million...wohoo!

Bought a nice amulet for 2m.

70 dex
240 Vit
+480 LOH
+44 Lightning Resist
+2.4 Chance on hit to blind

Also still haven't sold my nice ring for 50 bucks..may just keep it.

+21-44 DMG
+55 Int
+60 Vit
+203 LOH
+Socket

I am farming nowdays..I was going to progress through inferno but I found that the elites in Act 3 suck ass compared to Act 2.. whats the most efficient way to farm anyways? Act 1 butcher runs? Or is it best to stick with the furthest Act you can most comfortably farm?

 

[diesbudt]

Found a Belt I sold for 3 Million...wohoo!

Bought a nice amulet for 2m.

70 dex
240 Vit
+480 LOH
+44 Lightning Resist
+2.4 Chance on hit to blind

Also still haven't sold my nice ring for 50 bucks..may just keep it.

+21-44 DMG
+55 Int
+60 Vit
+203 LOH
+Socket

I am farming nowdays..I was going to progress through inferno but I found that the elites in Act 3 suck ass compared to Act 2.. whats the most efficient way to farm anyways? Act 1 butcher runs? Or is it best to stick with the furthest Act you can most comfortably farm?

Act 1 butcher runs are fast and with the chance they can drop ilevel 63 now, it isn't a bad way to go.

However until the loot dropping is upped in act3/4 (as it was confirmed it is less than it should be)

The "best" farming is joining the last quest in Act 2, going back to the start and going through each champion and elite packs throughout act 2. As Act 2 has twice the chance as Act 1 for a ilevel 63 item. (and increase chances on 61 and 62 items.) As long as you can do this without much issue.

 

[smackababy]

Found a Belt I sold for 3 Million...wohoo!

Bought a nice amulet for 2m.

70 dex
240 Vit
+480 LOH
+44 Lightning Resist
+2.4 Chance on hit to blind

Also still haven't sold my nice ring for 50 bucks..may just keep it.

+21-44 DMG
+55 Int
+60 Vit
+203 LOH
+Socket

I am farming nowdays..I was going to progress through inferno but I found that the elites in Act 3 suck ass compared to Act 2.. whats the most efficient way to farm anyways? Act 1 butcher runs? Or is it best to stick with the furthest Act you can most comfortably farm?

I'm farming Treasure Goblins in Act 2. It is really easy and fast. Plus, doing it in magic find is cake because of the location.

 

[Magusigne]

The "best" farming is joining the last quest in Act 2, going back to the start and going through each champion and elite packs throughout act 2. As Act 2 has twice the chance as Act 1 for a ilevel 63 item. (and increase chances on 61 and 62 items.) As long as you can do this without much issue.

Good information. Is this the same ratio to farm in act 3 (Although I can't handle all the runners) So act 3 has twice the chance as Act 2 (and four times the chance as act 1?)

Also the stupid treasure runners tend to get away from me more often then naut. My DPS is about 14k and I usually can't corner them and they run into like 2 elite packs and teleport off...wtf.

Also do you think that ring will sell on RMAH? I forgot about the +% life on it.

+21-44 DMG
+55 Int
+60 Vit
+203 LOH
+7% Life
+Socket

 

[bonkers325]

Except gold had no value beyond gambling and repairing in D2. I don't know how many games of D2 over the last decade (In which I restarted) I would be maxxed out on gold storage so quickly, because it was useless.

gold was extremely useful during the first year of d2. gambling for SoJ's was all it was good for, though.

 

[Adrenaline]

I'm not finding the repair cost that bad. I tried to finish Act2 Inferno over the weekend and probably spent 200k on repairs. (Just could not get Belial down before enrage) Even with that massive failure I only did 1 or 2 butcher runs and recouped most of my losses. Came out ahead after running Act 3 NM on an alt. No AH sales at all.

I plan on killing Belial today, just need to rework my build a little to optimize dps.

You should not have to run back to previous acts or difficulty levels to recoup losses. Sorry, that is a cop out.

White items are useless and should sell for more gold OR get them out of the game.

 

[Adrenaline]

gold was extremely useful during the first year of d2. gambling for SoJ's was all it was good for, though.

It was good for gambling dual leech rings as well.

 

[diesbudt]

Good information. Is this the same ratio to farm in act 3 (Although I can't handle all the runners) So act 3 has twice the chance as Act 2 (and four times the chance as act 1?)

Also the stupid treasure runners tend to get away from me more often then naut. My DPS is about 14k and I usually can't corner them and they run into like 2 elite packs and teleport off...wtf.

Also do you think that ring will sell on RMAH? I forgot about the +% life on it.

+21-44 DMG
+55 Int
+60 Vit
+203 LOH
+7% Life
+Socket

That ring? probably $20ish, give or take $10 would be what I would put it up for. I don't see items selling for massive amounts anymore. I normally just grab w/e good items I have and plop them on the RMAH for $3-5 with the random high ones of $10.

Act 3/4 have a higher chance than act 2 for lv 63 items, though I am uncertain if it doubles again. But right now act 3 and 4 are not dropping as much loot as it should, and it is confirmed they will work on a fix with it.

If I remember right it is 2% > 4% > 8% for lv 63 items to drop in act 1 > act 2 > act 3/4.

What I hate is that when an item drops it has to roll so many random factors.

1. What ilevel is it
2. Is it common, uncommon, rare, legendary, or other
- Example: (kinda like a x = 100, 0.64x, 0.25x, 0.059x, 0.01x)
2a. Champs and elites and end game bosses have a "shifted" loot table that always drops at least 1 rare at X magic find (with chance of more) and rarly drops commons.
2b. Magic find affects this part of the equation
3. How many properties does the item have
4. What properties the item has. (a property can be 2 seperate stats also.)
- Example: Item has 3 properties:
property 1 = 50 STR
property 2 = 25 VIT, 15 Resist all
property 3 = 10 STR, 20% Migic find

So the item will have: 60 STR, 25 VIT, 15 Resist all, 20% magic find.

 

[diesbudt]

gold was extremely useful during the first year of d2. gambling for SoJ's was all it was good for, though.

Did you read what you quoted of me? I did say gambling was a use of it. Though you are right basically just for SoJs. But once duping happened some people I know had so many SoJs game went stupid in the economy.

 

[diesbudt]

You should not have to run back to previous acts or difficulty levels to recoup losses. Sorry, that is a cop out.

White items are useless and should sell for more gold OR get them out of the game.

Why not? in most RPGS that use lateral advancement (gear) you farm difficulty/act X until you are strong enough to complete difficulty/act Y. If you cannot, then you moved on too early. (Which is what it sounds like a lot of the complaining is coming from on repair costs)

I don't know anyone that entered Hell mode in D2 with just stuff they found in act 1 normal (because loot dropping just sucked during their whole playthrough)

Solution? Farm normal act 2/3 so you can farm nightmare 1/2 and so on.

Any MMO you farm previous tier content or difficulties until you have the gear enough to move on. Any RPG once you hit level cap is the same also.

And he wasn't just recouping losses, butcher runs are easy gold/item dropping with little chance of dying. He could have farmed Act 2 (up to the boss if he wanted, but sounds like he had some diffulty in act 2, so wanted an easier act 1 time)

 

[Adrenaline]

The situation where it was actually easier in Inferno when you could die 45 times per map. This can't be done anymore without being massively expensive. The people who could do harder content than they should be (dying 45 times) can't do it anymore without spending all their gold. They whine about it enough, maybe Blizzard will make repairs free.

Gold is less than $3 per million now. Spend $30 on gold, get 10 million, and you don't have to worry about repairs for a long time.

For the amount, $30, this will provide you with several hours of play time not worrying about gold and you can enjoy the game.

 

[bonkers325]

Found a Belt I sold for 3 Million...wohoo!

Bought a nice amulet for 2m.

70 dex
240 Vit
+480 LOH
+44 Lightning Resist
+2.4 Chance on hit to blind

Also still haven't sold my nice ring for 50 bucks..may just keep it.

+21-44 DMG
+55 Int
+60 Vit
+203 LOH
+Socket

I am farming nowdays..I was going to progress through inferno but I found that the elites in Act 3 suck ass compared to Act 2.. whats the most efficient way to farm anyways? Act 1 butcher runs? Or is it best to stick with the furthest Act you can most comfortably farm?

wow great find on that amulet. i just bought a 320 LoH w/ 59 res all and 50 physical nad 48% crit dmg, replacing my old amulet with 439 LoH 89 dex and 9% life. i need the resist to swap out other pieces, but i'm seriously low on HP (only have 26k now..)

that ring is not worth 50 bucks, it does not have crit hit/dmg or ias or resist all or MF%.

 

[bonkers325]

Did you read what you quoted of me? I did say gambling was a use of it. Though you are right basically just for SoJs. But once duping happened some people I know had so many SoJs game went stupid in the economy.

missed the part about gambling

it was pretty sweet before duping hit bnet, i started selling SoJ's at $100 a pop. went down to $50 pretty fast, then to $10. iirc, there was a hack that let you ID SoJ's in the gamble window before buying, so all u had to do was re-load act1 until u get a gambling vendor near the entrance, and just walk in/out to refresh the gamble window until u got an SoJ. after that... it was like $2 per SoJ lol

 

[Adrenaline]

Why not? in most RPGS that use lateral advancement (gear) you farm difficulty/act X until you are strong enough to complete difficulty/act Y. If you cannot, then you moved on too early. (Which is what it sounds like a lot of the complaining is coming from on repair costs)

I don't know anyone that entered Hell mode in D2 with just stuff they found in act 1 normal (because loot dropping just sucked during their whole playthrough)

Solution? Farm normal act 2/3 so you can farm nightmare 1/2 and so on.

Any MMO you farm previous tier content or difficulties until you have the gear enough to move on. Any RPG once you hit level cap is the same also.

I die much more in groups than playing solo and the gear I need for upgrades only drops in the acts I want to play in. Sorry, but I am not playing an earlier act to farm gold. This is a farm item game, not a farm gold for repairs game. Yet, another WoW feature that made it into Diablo. Also, a bunch of my deaths are lag related, which is pathetic for the repair costs.

My DH does 86k dmg and does fine. I need an Inna's Blessing (belt) but the one I want is 27.5 million BID on the AH, not even the buyout. Farming gold sucks.

I need shoulders, gloves and bracers as well.

My upgrade for a weapon is totally LOL at AH prices. I will give a breakdown:

To upgrade from the AH:
Weapon 100 million+ (1306 with 148 dex me 25 million)
Helm I am fine with (Andariel's with 163 Dex, 14 Vit and 6% ASI)
Shoulders 10 million
Amulet 50 million+
Belt 27 million+
Quiver I am fine with (Black Bone Arrows)
Rings I am fine with (one cost me 25 million)
Boots I am fine with (Zuni that cost me 5 million, total steal with 130 Dex, 88 Vit, 6% Poison, 6% ASI and 12% Movement)
Pants I am fine with (Inna's with 82 Vit, 6% ASI, 7% Movement and 2 sockets)
Bracers 6 million+
Gloves 6 million+

I have done a TON of farming and the AH has been nice to me as of late.

 

[smackababy]

I die much more in groups than playing solo and the gear I need for upgrades only drops in the acts I want to play in. Sorry, but I am not playing an earlier act to farm gold. This is a farm item game, not a farm gold for repairs game. Yet, another WoW feature that made it into Diablo. Also, a bunch of my deaths are lag related, which is pathetic for the repair costs.

My DH does 86k dmg and does fine. I need an Inna's Blessing (belt) but the one I want is 27.5 million BID on the AH, not even the buyout. Farming gold sucks.

I need shoulders, gloves and bracers as well.

My upgrade for a weapon is totally LOL at AH prices. I will give a breakdown:

To upgrade from the AH:
Weapon 100 million+ (1306 with 148 dex me 25 million)
Helm I am fine with (Andariel's with 163 Dex, 14 Vit and 6% ASI)
Shoulders 10 million
Amulet 50 million+
Belt 27 million+
Quiver I am fine with (Black Bone Arrows)
Rings I am fine with (one cost me 25 million)
Boots I am fine with (Zuni that cost me 5 million, total steal with 130 Dex, 88 Vit, 6% Poison, 6% ASI and 12% Movement)
Pants I am fine with (Inna's with 82 Vit, 6% ASI, 7% Movement and 2 sockets)
Bracers 6 million+
Gloves 6 million+

I have done a TON of farming and the AH has been nice to me as of late.

And with that if you're having a hard time, no items will help you. Though, 100mil for the weapon seems high. If those are the only stats it isn't that good.

 

[Adrenaline]

Who else does this:

I find an auction with no buy out or a high one and place a bid so it is in my auction list then I set my phone alarm to go off 5 minutes before hand and out my bid in when it hits below 1 minute. I put a serious bid in and have won the last 5 items I have wanted.

If you are going to be online, may as well use the system.

 

[smackababy]

Who else does this:

I find an auction with no buy out or a high one and place a bid so it is in my auction list then I set my phone alarm to go off 5 minutes before hand and out my bid in when it hits below 1 minute. I put a serious bid in and have won the last 5 items I have wanted.

If you are going to be online, may as well use the system.

That is what I do. I bid at the last minute. But anyone who doesn't do that is a moron.

 

[Adrenaline]

And with that if you're having a hard time, no items will help you. Though, 100mil for the weapon seems high. If those are the only stats it isn't that good.

Those are the only stats, and yes it is that good. Do you play a DH? It is a fun class to play but VERY VERY VERY dependent upon the weapon dmg for EVERYTHING.

I have a level 60 Barb, WD and Monk as well, they do NOT depend on their weapon dmg as much as the DH. It is an odd statement, but it is true.

I could probably get around 50 million for it. I saw someone sell theirs on the AH the other day because someone told them it wasn't that good, for 30 million in 10 minutes. Someone else replied to the thread and said they would have gladly paid 50 million.

 

[Adrenaline]

That is what I do. I bid at the last minute. But anyone who doesn't do that is a moron.

The main thing I am doing is asking if others set alarms on their cell phones or something else. I am in game and when the alarm goes off I hit the next checkpoint and leave.

 

[diesbudt]

I die much more in groups than playing solo and the gear I need for upgrades only drops in the acts I want to play in. Sorry, but I am not playing an earlier act to farm gold. This is a farm item game, not a farm gold for repairs game. Yet, another WoW feature that made it into Diablo. Also, a bunch of my deaths are lag related, which is pathetic for the repair costs.

Um... Act 1 inferno can drop all the same items act 3 and 4 inferno can drop.

And bad comment about WoW. Repairs in WoW vs gold obtained is basically just like Diablo 3 before the change. Repairing in WoW is negligible at best. I don't know the last time I actually took time to see the cost of a repair when I was playing

My DH does 86k dmg and does fine. I need an Inna's Blessing (belt) but the one I want is 27.5 million BID on the AH, not even the buyout. Farming gold sucks.

Farming gold is no different then farming items. One is consistant and you can get over 1k per drop once you have 5 stack NV, while the other is roulette and sometimes can make big gold/money from them. Both sucks, but that is what drives a players character. Whether it is farming for xp to level, materials to craft gear, gold to buy gear, the gear itself or whatever. All RPGS have farming involved.


And yes AH prices can suck, but I have found better items for MUCH MUCH cheaper than that by just taking the time and looking / narrowing down my search.

 

[diesbudt]

That is what I do. I bid at the last minute. But anyone who doesn't do that is a moron.

Same, but if the buyout is reasonable, I use that instead.

 

[darkewaffle]

That's life once you get to the 'high end'. The longer you play, the harder upgrades are to obtain as you reach the theoretical power ceiling in any game like this. My barb is not quite so far along, but it's a similar situation as any useful gear upgrade for me is going to cost me at least the better part of or well over 10 million. D2 was the same way, except you were chasing runewords and uniques instead of rares and legendaries.

I have yet to have any problem with repair costs. Since the patch it costs more but I do die far less as well. Even when I don't find anything useful on a long A3 run, it costs me like 50k max (assuming I end up yellow at the end, which is about normal) and I imagine I make most of that back off liquid gold drops and easily more than that if I ever sold my salvaged essences.

 

[darkxshade]

Who else does this:

I find an auction with no buy out or a high one and place a bid so it is in my auction list then I set my phone alarm to go off 5 minutes before hand and out my bid in when it hits below 1 minute. I put a serious bid in and have won the last 5 items I have wanted.

If you are going to be online, may as well use the system.

That's pretty much the only way I can get upgrades... It's gotten to a point where if I see soemthing I like and notice that I won't be able to be online around the time that auction ends, I don't even bother to place a bid anymore.

Sun & Monday is absolutely the best nights to shop for me. I'd look for items I want without buyouts that end during Tuesday. I'd place a small bid just to items into my watchlist and Tue morning before I head out to work, I'd place my max bids right before Bliz maintenance and I'd come home from work with a big smile on my face to my newly acquired loot. It's harder to get item sniped when you can't see the invisible maintenance timer running down. <3 Tue mornings.