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Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Is there a market for a shoulder drop I got?

+70 all resists
+30 Poison resist
+68 VIT~
And some +life regen.

Seems pretty good for a monk with high poison resist stacking.
No dex, missing a primary stat is pretty much a deal breaker. Starter monk gear would look like

70 dex
50 vit
25 random resist
25 all resist
 

nanobreath

Senior member
May 14, 2008
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0
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No dex, missing a primary stat is pretty much a deal breaker. Starter monk gear would look like

70 dex
50 vit
25 random resist
25 all resist


Agree with this. Generally missing the primary stat kills a piece of gear. Though if you have space, try auctioning it. Won't hurt. Just price it right.
 

waterjug

Senior member
Jan 21, 2012
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So Ghom the larder....wtf.

Belial..on inferno..seriously..No problem.

Ghom? Face stomps me..I think after kiting him around for awhile I had him at "maybe" 45% hp.

18k dps at moment..I'm thinking I need to dual wield and burst him down more than have a shield.


how are you people with such low dps doing well on inferno? My barb was in the mid twenties, with 30k life, 400+ resists all, and ANY creature on Act II one hits me. Literally any of them. That first part where you're in the canyon, I died 5 times trying to get out of it.

I keep taking several days off from this game and thinking "it can't be as bad as I thought it was" and then going back and rage quitting first time I play. Last night I was trying to do my ~115th butcher run, I got 5 neph, and I start lag skipping around the screen. Again, with 110ms lag. I'm trying to kite, instead it lags, and when it clears I'm surrounded by creatures picking apart my corpse. Happens 3 more times, I have to repair my gear twice, and end up losing 30k on the butcher run. What a crock of shit. What was the logic these retards had when designing this game:

A) Force people to farm act I inferno over and over and over until it sucks the joy out of the game
B) Punish them by having them have to pay awful repair fees on their gear when they get lag killed, or murdered by one-hit enemies, despite having 400+ resists
C) Player gets frustrated and either A) Quits, or B) Goes to RMAH since they can't save up any gold for AH on account of repair costs.


So the game basically was created to funnel money through RMAH and capitalize on their fee they take out?
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
28,578
3
81
For all the Monk users that want gear faster (don't know if that has been posted here or not, and I don't think it is patched):

Get a group of elites and dps them down evenly, when all three are below 30%, kill one with Exploding Palm and the Impending Doom rune.

You get 3 times as many rares. Enjoy. This works best with melee ones.

You also get faster NV stacks, up to as many uniques you kill with the final blow. This can work with other classes that can finish off more than one elite at a time that is the LAST to die in the set, it is just a little harder.

going to test this out
 

Magusigne

Golden Member
Nov 21, 2007
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how are you people with such low dps doing well on inferno? My barb was in the mid twenties, with 30k life, 400+ resists all, and ANY creature on Act II one hits me. Literally any of them. That first part where you're in the canyon, I died 5 times trying to get out of it.

Because I have 36% Block, 40k Life 7k Armor, 52% Dodge, and 840 Resist all. And +700 LOH. Oh and a Serenity Panic Button.

Honestly, Up until Grom I really didn't die. The only way I "Could" die is if I was in an enclosed area with a Fire Chain/descrator/Arcane/ Waller.
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
28,578
3
81
how are you people with such low dps doing well on inferno? My barb was in the mid twenties, with 30k life, 400+ resists all, and ANY creature on Act II one hits me. Literally any of them. That first part where you're in the canyon, I died 5 times trying to get out of it.

I keep taking several days off from this game and thinking "it can't be as bad as I thought it was" and then going back and rage quitting first time I play. Last night I was trying to do my ~115th butcher run, I got 5 neph, and I start lag skipping around the screen. Again, with 110ms lag. I'm trying to kite, instead it lags, and when it clears I'm surrounded by creatures picking apart my corpse. Happens 3 more times, I have to repair my gear twice, and end up losing 30k on the butcher run. What a crock of shit. What was the logic these retards had when designing this game:

A) Force people to farm act I inferno over and over and over until it sucks the joy out of the game
B) Punish them by having them have to pay awful repair fees on their gear when they get lag killed, or murdered by one-hit enemies, despite having 400+ resists
C) Player gets frustrated and either A) Quits, or B) Goes to RMAH since they can't save up any gold for AH on account of repair costs.


So the game basically was created to funnel money through RMAH and capitalize on their fee they take out?

why are you even kiting the butcher ? you should be able to just tank and spank.
You may need to boost your Resist up if you can't stand in the fire and just tank and spank away. That and change up some skill talents too.
 

Imp

Lifer
Feb 8, 2000
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184
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What a crock of shit. What was the logic these retards had when designing this game:

A) Force people to farm act I inferno over and over and over until it sucks the joy out of the game
B) Punish them by having them have to pay awful repair fees on their gear when they get lag killed, or murdered by one-hit enemies, despite having 400+ resists
C) Player gets frustrated and either A) Quits, or B) Goes to RMAH since they can't save up any gold for AH on account of repair costs.


So the game basically was created to funnel money through RMAH and capitalize on their fee they take out?

Gotta agree that the difficulty jump is pretty assinine and retarded. My barb's damage sucks, but he can almost rape anything and everything in Act I with low risk of dying. He steps out the gate in Act II and gets one hit. What the f*ck? WOuld have made more sense if they at least let you out of the gate and further along in the act before progressively making it harder.


So I finally bothered to upgrade my artisan to level 10. Damn... good gems, just expensive.
 

railven

Diamond Member
Mar 25, 2010
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why are you even kiting the butcher ? you should be able to just tank and spank.
You may need to boost your Resist up if you can't stand in the fire and just tank and spank away. That and change up some skill talents too.

Gotta agree with this. I got the under 2 minute kill achievement in Inferno on my first Butcher kill.

EDIT: I guess I should add, these weren't my stats on my first kill, but are about my stats now. My DPS was a little lower due to not able to find good weapons, HP was probably 23-25K.

~550 Resist, 15K DPS, 35K HP, and I could essentially stand in fire due to choice skills as a monk.

Boon of life to absorb a hit and regen life, or Serenity to flat out stand in it, with them coming back up after each other I just pretty much sat in fire for 1/2 the fight. Just dash behind him to get the Dodge buff for free mitigation.
 
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diesbudt

Diamond Member
Jun 1, 2012
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how are you people with such low dps doing well on inferno? My barb was in the mid twenties, with 30k life, 400+ resists all, and ANY creature on Act II one hits me. Literally any of them. That first part where you're in the canyon, I died 5 times trying to get out of it.

I keep taking several days off from this game and thinking "it can't be as bad as I thought it was" and then going back and rage quitting first time I play. Last night I was trying to do my ~115th butcher run, I got 5 neph, and I start lag skipping around the screen. Again, with 110ms lag. I'm trying to kite, instead it lags, and when it clears I'm surrounded by creatures picking apart my corpse. Happens 3 more times, I have to repair my gear twice, and end up losing 30k on the butcher run. What a crock of shit. What was the logic these retards had when designing this game:

A) Force people to farm act I inferno over and over and over until it sucks the joy out of the game
B) Punish them by having them have to pay awful repair fees on their gear when they get lag killed, or murdered by one-hit enemies, despite having 400+ resists
C) Player gets frustrated and either A) Quits, or B) Goes to RMAH since they can't save up any gold for AH on account of repair costs.


So the game basically was created to funnel money through RMAH and capitalize on their fee they take out?


Well considering the endgame D3 has IS all about farming, you cant complain about (A). That is what the diablo series is mroe or less based on.

Also I went through act 2 inferno just fine and my stats are just average. Could possibly be your play style or gear not balanced right, whether you admit it or not.

Partway through Act 3, and I have only sold items on RMAH (did not buy, even with funds earned via RMAH) and half the items I am wearing I actually found in Act 1 farming.
 

tedrodai

Golden Member
Jan 18, 2006
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why are you even kiting the butcher ? you should be able to just tank and spank.
You may need to boost your Resist up if you can't stand in the fire and just tank and spank away. That and change up some skill talents too.

Well he wasn't kiting the butcher. He was kiting mobs along the run.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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912
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As I've been playing Diablo III, one thing that I noticed is that the music isn't very good. I'm not really going to go into some long, inane rant over it, but given that game music usually helps me enjoy a game more, I wouldn't mind some better music. Although, I think the problem is more or less with the lack of different music. For example, I think the boss theme is interesting (has a lot of good percussion), but it's rarely played (for obvious reasons). The rest of the themes are pretty much forgettable.

Ahh if only I could mod in FF6 music; fanfare when you kill a boss would be fun. I guess I need to wait for Torchlight II to be able to do that (since it allows modding).
 

diesbudt

Diamond Member
Jun 1, 2012
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As I've been playing Diablo III, one thing that I noticed is that the music isn't very good. I'm not really going to go into some long, inane rant over it, but given that game music usually helps me enjoy a game more, I wouldn't mind some better music. Although, I think the problem is more or less with the lack of different music. For example, I think the boss theme is interesting (has a lot of good percussion), but it's rarely played (for obvious reasons). The rest of the themes are pretty much forgettable.

Ahh if only I could mod in FF6 music; fanfare when you kill a boss would be fun. I guess I need to wait for Torchlight II to be able to do that (since it allows modding).

I do miss D2 Act 1 music.
 

railven

Diamond Member
Mar 25, 2010
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A) Force people to farm act I inferno over and over and over until it sucks the joy out of the game
B) Punish them by having them have to pay awful repair fees on their gear when they get lag killed, or murdered by one-hit enemies, despite having 400+ resists
C) Player gets frustrated and either A) Quits, or B) Goes to RMAH since they can't save up any gold for AH on account of repair costs.

You can try other alternatives:

A) you can now farm Act III/IV in Hell for money and some upper ilvl gear which if the rolls are right, are exceptionally good for Inferno runs. And it also breaks up the monotenous of just farming Inferno Act I.
B) I agree with the repair issue, they really made a mistake with that. Aside the lag spikes, if you are being one-shot very often, you might want to decrease the difficulty of the zone. That should at least decrease your losses and thus help get you better gear through more funds.
C) I don't see why RMAH should ever be a go to, unless the player is that desperate for some progression. I ran into a friend who's been spending a good amount of money in the RMAH. I had to run him through Act II in Hell, when I inspected him he had 5 pieces of some named gear (5 of 5, the one with set bonuses), some legendaries, and of courses rares. And he still couldn't get out of Hell? Just more proof that Skill > gear.

He refused to answer me how much he had already spent. So some of you guys making bank of RMAH, I'll tell him you all said hi haha
 

fustercluck

Diamond Member
Dec 29, 2002
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As I've been playing Diablo III, one thing that I noticed is that the music isn't very good. I'm not really going to go into some long, inane rant over it, but given that game music usually helps me enjoy a game more, I wouldn't mind some better music. Although, I think the problem is more or less with the lack of different music. For example, I think the boss theme is interesting (has a lot of good percussion), but it's rarely played (for obvious reasons). The rest of the themes are pretty much forgettable.

Ahh if only I could mod in FF6 music; fanfare when you kill a boss would be fun. I guess I need to wait for Torchlight II to be able to do that (since it allows modding).

Hrm I think you might be right. The music that is in D3 is high quality symphony type stuff, but there's just not much variety.
 

BadgerYou

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Jun 4, 2012
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My opinion based on no research or validity behind it. Drops rates seem to be higher than intended. I hope they don't nerf it again -_- (this is after playing for 3-4 hours last night)
 

railven

Diamond Member
Mar 25, 2010
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This gap narrows in Inferno.

Really? Because I found skill helps far more in Inferno than gear. You need a base gear level, but that is a given for any game.

Just because the gear makes something "easier" doesn't change that skill would make it even easier.

Someone is amazed that someone clears Inferno content with less gear than them - what does that say?
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
28,578
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Really? Because I found skill helps far more in Inferno than gear. You need a base gear level, but that is a given for any game.

Just because the gear makes something "easier" doesn't change that skill would make it even easier.

Someone is amazed that someone clears Inferno content with less gear than them - what does that say?

yea~ you can have the best gear and still get your ass kicked if your lacking some skill.
 

Magusigne

Golden Member
Nov 21, 2007
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Really? Because I found skill helps far more in Inferno than gear. You need a base gear level, but that is a given for any game.

Just because the gear makes something "easier" doesn't change that skill would make it even easier.

Someone is amazed that someone clears Inferno content with less gear than them - what does that say?

If you are in act IV. Ok. I'll believe you. There are road blocks and enrage timers that all the skill in the world will prevent you from beating with your current DPS.

This much is true.

Now, of course you are right. I am simply saying whatever gap there was between skill and gear begins to narrow. Hell IV vs Act 1 Inferno. The narrowing begins.
 

bonkers325

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
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If you are in act IV. Ok. I'll believe you. There are road blocks and enrage timers that all the skill in the world will prevent you from beating with your current DPS.

This much is true.

Now, of course you are right. I am simply saying whatever gap there was between skill and gear begins to narrow. Hell IV vs Act 1 Inferno. The narrowing begins.

Skill plays a lot in beating enrage timers. Positioning of player and enemy, as well as knowing enemy cool down timers will help you both survive and kill. A lot of players clamor on about how they have 20 or 30k dps and can't beat enrage lol. If you aren't actively attacking your dps reduces drastically.
 

Magusigne

Golden Member
Nov 21, 2007
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Skill plays a lot in beating enrage timers. Positioning of player and enemy, as well as knowing enemy cool down timers will help you both survive and kill. A lot of players clamor on about how they have 20 or 30k dps and can't beat enrage lol. If you aren't actively attacking your dps reduces drastically.

True. I can't stand in Grom's gas clouds for long. I will have to rearrange my skills and will likely beat him after a little awhile of trying (which is a good thing. Belial too easy and butcher was LOL. So I'm glad this game presents a challenge (which they are slowly nerfing into the ground).

Also Grom has a 4 minute enrage timer. So I'm ditching my shield going dual wield etc.

Again. I'm not saying that Skill doesn't trump gear. It does. But Blizzard is much smarter than any of us, and inferno is designed to become more gear dependant in certain phases..to encourage the use of the AH.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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If you are in act IV. Ok. I'll believe you. There are road blocks and enrage timers that all the skill in the world will prevent you from beating with your current DPS.

This much is true.

Now, of course you are right. I am simply saying whatever gap there was between skill and gear begins to narrow. Hell IV vs Act 1 Inferno. The narrowing begins.

I've been watching some live streams lately(specifically Kripparian) who's been doinb budget Inferno runs. He cleared Inferno on a monk with <1m, and did a budget barb < 500k which I'm pretty sure he cleared also yesterday. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
 

railven

Diamond Member
Mar 25, 2010
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Skill plays a lot in beating enrage timers. Positioning of player and enemy, as well as knowing enemy cool down timers will help you both survive and kill. A lot of players clamor on about how they have 20 or 30k dps and can't beat enrage lol. If you aren't actively attacking your dps reduces drastically.

This, factor in players who aren't focusing on the mechanics and instead spend more time self-medding, and using CD's or resources to stay alive.

I found a spot on Belial where I can just stand there and PEWPEW, basically only moving when he does the area wide green floor blobs. Because of this, I can continually DPS and put out more damage then someone who's character sheet has a higher number than mine.

While helping my friend through Hell Belial, I watched him running around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to avoid every single little thing. I stood in my spot, ate two attacks (which I could Boon through) and sort of chuckled. I wonder how many people move more than they attack then wonder why enrage timers are kicking in.
 
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