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isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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Sold my Vile Ward for 45 million buyout. I had it up for most of today for 35 million starting big, 65 buyout, but no bites, so I lowered it. Oh well, still quite a bit of money.

You've been getting some monster finds lately!!
 

waterjug

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Jan 21, 2012
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Some of us can't even survive in A3. So basically, if I do A1 or A2, I get maybe 300K/hour. Currently to upgrade any one of my items so I can survive better in A3 I'd need to save about 30M. So in 100 hours or so of farming I could upgrade one item. Assuming nothing in those 100 hours is worthy of the AH, and honestly I've only found 5 or 6 items that have sold on there. I can't remember the last time anything dropped that had IAS, Crit %, Crit D, etc.

Tried playing the other night for the first time in about 3 weeks; bored to death of farming. Tried the third quest on A3 I think it was....spawned, got instagibbed by some elite, respawned, kited & killed one of the minions, get one hit again, all gear goes red. Go to repair, realize I'm out of gold. So I have no gear and no gold. Fuck you Blizzard. Fuck you eat shit.
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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Some of us can't even survive in A3. So basically, if I do A1 or A2, I get maybe 300K/hour. Currently to upgrade any one of my items so I can survive better in A3 I'd need to save about 30M. So in 100 hours or so of farming I could upgrade one item. Assuming nothing in those 100 hours is worthy of the AH, and honestly I've only found 5 or 6 items that have sold on there. I can't remember the last time anything dropped that had IAS, Crit %, Crit D, etc.

Tried playing the other night for the first time in about 3 weeks; bored to death of farming. Tried the third quest on A3 I think it was....spawned, got instagibbed by some elite, respawned, kited & killed one of the minions, get one hit again, all gear goes red. Go to repair, realize I'm out of gold. So I have no gear and no gold. Fuck you Blizzard. Fuck you eat shit.

Post your profile. You don't need to save up 30m to run a3. You couldn't probably do it in less than 2-3 m in gear.
 

fustercluck

Diamond Member
Dec 29, 2002
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waterjug you might have to come to the realization that you really don't like this game and stop playing it at some point - Rather than posting everything you don't like about it every single day.

Very much hoping the patch is tomorrow, no word about it yet though
 
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How do you guys deal with getting high MF% and still doing good dps and having survivability?

I can't solo A3 inferno yet, so I run with PUGs. At my best, my dps is 50k. I know that having a high MF% doesn't give you a better chance at legendaries, but rather MF % gives you higher chance of rolling more/better affixes (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

A few days ago, I tried putting on as much MF% gear and to see if my drops would improve. I'm definitely getting more rares to drop, but my dps and survivability just completely suck now. I'm almost useless in the group.

So how does one have high MF% and still do high dps and live?

With MF% gear and 5 stacks (at PL15) I am at 299% MF.

With my best gear and 5 stacks (at PL15) I'm only at 170% MF.
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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How do you guys deal with getting high MF% and still doing good dps and having survivability?

I can't solo A3 inferno yet, so I run with PUGs. At my best, my dps is 50k. I know that having a high MF% doesn't give you a better chance at legendaries, but rather MF % gives you higher chance of rolling more/better affixes (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

A few days ago, I tried putting on as much MF% gear and to see if my drops would improve. I'm definitely getting more rares to drop, but my dps and survivability just completely suck now. I'm almost useless in the group.

So how does one have high MF% and still do high dps and live?

With MF% gear and 5 stacks (at PL15) I am at 299% MF.

With my best gear and 5 stacks (at PL15) I'm only at 170% MF.

I ran about 45k @ 32x mf with follower with 5 stack.

With Paragon i'm at like 63k-7xk in DPS gear and am at 300+ with follower since paragon.

I think it's really a matter of balance. Most of your gold making is going to come from legendaries/set items. So killing more quickly and efficiently = more drops = more chances at legendary/sets.

I'd put more emphasis into killing stuff faster rather than MF. You'll eventually get up there with the paragon. I'm at 51 will hit 52 tonight (less than 1/2 bar left).

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hujaz-1759/hero/13575

I can definitely upgrade several slots and hit upto like 2600dex, but the cost to value right now doesn't seem to be worth it so i'm waiting til patch, or trying to find items to basically upgrade.
I found more stuff by killing more stuff rather than upping the MF.
 
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fustercluck

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Dec 29, 2002
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I run with max (375% MF) as a monk and do have some trouble with survivability, but, still worth it - I never do good DPS so that's not much of an issue anyways, I make up for poor DPS with +dmg buffs for the party. You can't solo with a lot of MF unless you have some really elite MF gear. You'll want to play in parties, preferably of 2 or 3 with people you are familiar with (public games can be UGHHHHH). Warcry will help a lot so I really like having a Barb in the party.

Don't know what character you are. Being a monk helps a lot with survivability. Main thing you want on your MF gear is resistances and decent vitality. Life on hit is the biggest key to survivability. If you want to buy some more MF gear and/or replace some of the stuff you're using now, should wait until about a week after the patch, since everything should be much more affordable.
 
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isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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I run with max (375% MF) as a monk and do have some trouble with survivability, but, still worth it - I never do good DPS so that's not much of an issue anyways, I make up for poor DPS with +dmg buffs for the party. You can't solo with a lot of MF unless you have some really elite MF gear. You'll want to play in parties, preferably of 2 or 3 with people you are familiar with (public games can be UGHHHHH). Warcry will help a lot so I really like having a Barb in the party.

Don't know what character you are. Being a monk helps a lot with survivability. Main thing you want on your MF gear is resistances and decent vitality. Life on hit is the biggest key to survivability. If you want to buy some more MF gear and/or replace some of the stuff you're using now, should wait until about a week after the patch, since everything should be much more affordable.

To run A3 comfortably,

35-40k dps
5k+ armor (important) you'd most likely take more physical hits than elemental.
750 Res All
32-35k life
1.8aps+
1200 loh or life steal 2.7% + lifesteal works great if you're a Cyclone build. Works better than LOH imo. Since lifesteal procs off cyclone lightnings.

As your DPS increases you can drop Res all some and probably get rid of LOH all together in lieu of Life Steal.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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Ahh.. finally understand the WW Barb build, and it's like seeing the light.... lol. Of course, it's about to get nerfed though.

It's all about run like the wind tornado + crits from rage to regen fury and the WW + nado procs ls and loh, and you just fly across the map. Pretty awesome. Had a blast using it last night and my gear is pretty much junk.. except for my shoulder and bracers. I can see the need for drop legendary drop notifications for this build. You gotta just keep going, especially if you do the berzerker WW which is beast.

What sux is, I had found a good off hand, 600+ dps, socket, and 800 loh, but sold it for 50k, b/c my last attempt at WW did not go so well. After learning, I had to go buy an off hand and paid 100k for something similar. Worth it though.
 

Imp

Lifer
Feb 8, 2000
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You've been getting some monster finds lately!!

It's Act 3: I finally started focusing on playing that. I've been leveling faster, and when legendaries drop, they're actually ilevel 61 and up. Before then, I kept to Act 1 and 2 because I was focusing on gold farming, and hated the fact that I died so much in Act 3. Looking at gold alone, I net 400k/hour in Act 1 and 100-200k/hour in Act 3, but add in a single good unique drop in Act 3 and I've made more than I made in a few months. If I remember right, I found 4 or 5 uniques in Act 1 and 2 runs in the past few weeks, and they all sold for less than 100k gold cause they sucked. Most were ilvl 61 or less.

How do you guys deal with getting high MF% and still doing good dps and having survivability?

I can't solo A3 inferno yet, so I run with PUGs. At my best, my dps is 50k. I know that having a high MF% doesn't give you a better chance at legendaries, but rather MF % gives you higher chance of rolling more/better affixes (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

A few days ago, I tried putting on as much MF% gear and to see if my drops would improve. I'm definitely getting more rares to drop, but my dps and survivability just completely suck now. I'm almost useless in the group.

So how does one have high MF% and still do high dps and live?

With MF% gear and 5 stacks (at PL15) I am at 299% MF.

With my best gear and 5 stacks (at PL15) I'm only at 170% MF.

I ignore MF and go all DPS since I run as a DH. Luckily, I'm paragon 30-something so my base MF plus NH puts me around 200 MF. There's no "real" survivability stat-wise as a wizard, DH , or witch doctor because I've seen that barbs/monks take 30% less damage as a class attribute. It's all about skills like shield and smoke screen to absorb damage. I'd like resists, but that would mess with my 95k dps.

I like to think that my high dps offsets the MF as I would kill things faster, and be able to kill more things in the same period of time. If I'm GF running in Act 1, I go with about 370 GF and 250 MF with only 40 dps, which works since monsters are so weak.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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Some of us can't even survive in A3. So basically, if I do A1 or A2, I get maybe 300K/hour. Currently to upgrade any one of my items so I can survive better in A3 I'd need to save about 30M. So in 100 hours or so of farming I could upgrade one item. Assuming nothing in those 100 hours is worthy of the AH, and honestly I've only found 5 or 6 items that have sold on there. I can't remember the last time anything dropped that had IAS, Crit %, Crit D, etc.

Tried playing the other night for the first time in about 3 weeks; bored to death of farming. Tried the third quest on A3 I think it was....spawned, got instagibbed by some elite, respawned, kited & killed one of the minions, get one hit again, all gear goes red. Go to repair, realize I'm out of gold. So I have no gear and no gold. Fuck you Blizzard. Fuck you eat shit.

Wow Jug, if you would need 30 mil to upgrade 1 piece of gear, you must have some decent gear on currently. Post your profile for us. There's gotta be something else wrong, if you can't solo act 3, currently.
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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Wow Jug, if you would need 30 mil to upgrade 1 piece of gear, you must have some decent gear on currently. Post your profile for us. There's gotta be something else wrong, if you can't solo act 3, currently.

Yea i'm wondering what sort of upgrade he needs.

I'm trying to do a 5 mil upgrade on one of my slots. ( it may end up being a 15mil upgrade )
my profile
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hujaz-1759/hero/13575
 
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silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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It's Act 3: I finally started focusing on playing that. I've been leveling faster, and when legendaries drop, they're actually ilevel 61 and up. Before then, I kept to Act 1 and 2 because I was focusing on gold farming, and hated the fact that I died so much in Act 3. Looking at gold alone, I net 400k/hour in Act 1 and 100-200k/hour in Act 3, but add in a single good unique drop in Act 3 and I've made more than I made in a few months. If I remember right, I found 4 or 5 uniques in Act 1 and 2 runs in the past few weeks, and they all sold for less than 100k gold cause they sucked. Most were ilvl 61 or less.



I ignore MF and go all DPS since I run as a DH. Luckily, I'm paragon 30-something so my base MF plus NH puts me around 200 MF. There's no "real" survivability stat-wise as a wizard, DH , or witch doctor because I've seen that barbs/monks take 30% less damage as a class attribute. It's all about skills like shield and smoke screen to absorb damage. I'd like resists, but that would mess with my 95k dps.

I like to think that my high dps offsets the MF as I would kill things faster, and be able to kill more things in the same period of time. If I'm GF running in Act 1, I go with about 370 GF and 250 MF with only 40 dps, which works since monsters are so weak.

I've sort of got a survivability build with my DH. I think base dps is about ~50k, with ~320% crit dmg, makes me crit for 160k or so, and I run with sharpshooter. I do have a lot of allres gear, so end up at about 750-800 all res. When I am with a barb who uses war cry, I'm in the 1100-1200 all res range, add shadow power - gloom and preparation, and I can tank most things in the game.
 

waterjug

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Jan 21, 2012
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Wow Jug, if you would need 30 mil to upgrade 1 piece of gear, you must have some decent gear on currently. Post your profile for us. There's gotta be something else wrong, if you can't solo act 3, currently.

I'll post a link after, I'm about to head out. I don't see any decent gear on the AH for less than several million. Again, I never have more than about 200k at any one time on account of getting ass raped in A3.
 

fustercluck

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Dec 29, 2002
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Godammit, the patch is never coming They must be having some fairly big issues with the 1.05 patch on PTR. Was hoping they would be patching tonight, after hoping they'd patch it 7 days ago, and 7 days before that.
 

j3poy

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Apr 27, 2012
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I'm almost at plvl 82 and still no news about patch 1.05. I was hoping to take advantage of the easier grind in paragon.. but oh well.

And today's loot.. nothing.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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I'm on a cold streak, haven't gotten a legendary drop in over 12 full A3 clears over 3 days. 1.05 still not in sight. Have id'd thousands of rare drops since paragon 1 and have not found anything worth over 10m.

Starting to wonder if I should just pick up blues and vendor those instead since I don't have to id them.

I get on average about 1-3 items that I sell in the AH for 100k(85 after fees) per A3 clear. That's about it
 
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isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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I'm on a cold streak, haven't gotten a legendary drop in over 12 full A3 clears over 3 days. 1.05 still not in sight. Have id'd thousands of rare drops since paragon 1 and have not found anything worth over 10m.

Starting to wonder if I should just pick up blues and vendor those instead since I don't have to id them.

I get on average about 1-3 items that I sell in the AH for 100k(85 after fees) per A3 clear. That's about it

We can run some more tonight Hopeful for a jackpot
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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Anybody have a puzzle ring?

Thinking about getting one. Is it worth it? Has any of the spawned gobs ever dropped a legendary?
 

stag3

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i'm kinda getting bored now to the point i'm considering botting as i don't care if i get banned haha
my friends have been botting and they're geared up the wazoo with IK sets and shit in just over ~2 weeks of botting. they level from 1-60 in 20 hours and then just start botting for drops... it's tempting as i struggle to get anything nice, i cant even upgrade 1 piece at a time since i never have more than 1-2 mil saved up playing legit ugh.

i'm waiting for them to tell me they got banned as they leave it running 24/7
i'd think blizzard would be like wtf nobody can play 24/7 by now and catch them....
 
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