did all 3 ubers on mp5 with a friend... got 1/3 parts... fml
fight was tough but it was fun as heck
fight was tough but it was fun as heck
He never said that, although his words were misrepresented by many and used as "evidence" of that.
Blizzard clarifies it nicely:
"The auction house has absolutely no effect on drop rates. There are conspiracy theories and misunderstandings, but I do want to re-iterate: there is NO interaction whatsoever. Bashiok mentioned earlier that we took the AH into account, so let me expand a little bit on that.
The drop rates were tuned for a player who would never use the Auction House. For the majority of internal development, we didn't have an Auction House, and we all played using our own drops only. I've personally leveled multiple characters from 1 to 60 internally before the game came out using only drops that I found -- we all did."
Bashiok's original statement:
"The auction house obviously provides an incredible service to allow for very easy trades between characters, and essentially blows out the wide range of items you could have available to you at any one time. So, in fact, the AH has to be a factor in how we drop items. On one hand you have a huge benefit because you can buy and sell items very easily, as opposed to having to post up WTS threads in the old USEast trading forums, but on the other end it does impact the item pool economy with the inherent ease at which you can trade items. If the AH existed but wasn't a factor at all into how items dropped/rolled, the economy would be completely tanked within a matter of weeks."
Clear as day he is talking about the design of the game. The rarity of legendary items, for example, was set to be rare enough that they would hold some value even with the existence of an auction house. Players who interpreted his words to mean blizzard actively manipulates drop rates in some ongoing way were reading words into it that he never wrote.
Furthermore, many players have logged item drops extensively to determine just how the drop rates and magic find work together, any direct manipulation by blizzard would have been detected long ago.
And finally, the idea that blizzard would spend money hiring people to observe and control rare items and disable or enable drops to keep the auction house values high is completely laughable to me, they have better things to do with their money.
Silly conspiracy theory is just a silly conspiracy theory.
No, it is pretty much what he said is how I put it. Any other way of reading that is a fail at reading comprehension.
You have Bashiok saying one thing then retracting his comment. He said it. It will not change the fact he put it out there.
It is not a conspiracy theory when the moron stated it.
Silly ignorance is just silly ignorance.
Getting ready to spend a shit ton of gold on my Monk... Getting a vile ward, inna's radiance, inna's temperance, natalya's ring (mark?) natalya's bloody footprints, witching hour, need a new ammy, need a new weapon. Pretty much every god damn piece of equipment. Will probably very much regret buying it all 48 hours from now - Oh well. I've been eagerly awaiting this patch so legendaries would come down in price. Weapons haven't come down in price at all yet it seems, so will probably have to wait another week or so to get a nice weapon.
Bashiok said the drop rates were (were is past tense, this is important) influenced by the existence of the auction house. You said the drop rates are (present tense) influenced by the auction house. It's a huge difference, as what you say implies that the drop rates are currently and constantly tweaked, while bashiok's post implied that they were tweaked before release but not touched after the fact.
This is what you said:
Bashiok (Blizzard Rep) comes on the forums and actually says the AH does influence droprates or the economy would crash. (No I will not link this, google it)
This is what Bashiok said:
If the AH existed but wasn't a factor at all into how items dropped/rolled, the economy would be completely tanked within a matter of weeks.
You still think they are the same, so obviously you are confused. Lets break it down for you and try to help you understand.
If the AH existed but wasn't a factor at all into how items dropped/rolled, the economy would be completely tanked within a matter of weeks.
Rephrasing this: If the AH wasn't taken into consideration in how items dropped or rolled, the economy would have been flooded with the best items in the game and tanked within weeks.
It does NOT mean what you think it means, which is that the AH influences drop rates. It doesn't. He didn't say it did. I'm curious, is English a second language for you? I could see how you might interpret his words incorrectly if you aren't super familiar with american English grammar.
Your rephrase is hilarious as it means the exact same thing that I am saying. So I will break it down for you:
The AH is taken into consideration when they (the game devs/Blizzard) set the % chance for items to drop. If they set that % too high, the items will become worth less. Are you guys arguing against that?
basically they mean drop rates are lower because the ah is there, not that it influences how items are rolled. Not sure how anybody can misinterpret it. If the drop rates were as high as D2 the auction house would be completely tanked.
Calling D2 droprates high isn't particularly accurate lol.
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