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darkewaffle

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Relatively speaking of course. Compared to D3, unique and set items dropped at a much higher rate and were traded much more freely. I'd say they're more of a "good rare" drop rate.

But the vast majority of them were also garbage so there wasn't really a downside to letting some of them drop more freely because it just didn't make a difference aside from psychologically assuaging players. The chance of getting a high rune or a good unique / set item was still extremely low. Sure I got a Tancred's Crowbill and Isenhart's Horns all the time, but that doesn't mean they were any good and I still never got a HoZ.
 

PowerYoga

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Nov 6, 2001
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pretty much. Which is why I laugh when people say "d2's drops were soooo much better and I progress soooo much faster" when the good gear is just as hard, or harder to get due to all the decentralization. It's like D2 had a "guarantee" of epic loot when you play for 100 hours or something? Loooooool.
 

Imp

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Feb 8, 2000
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Wtf.... I sold my gold yesterday when the "buy" price was $0.54, but my email confirmation says it sold for $0.39. And that shit sold within minutes of me putting it on there.
 

Chiropteran

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Nov 14, 2003
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The AH is taken into consideration when they (the game devs/Blizzard) set the % chance for items to drop. If they set that % too high, the items will become worth less. Are you guys arguing against that?

I agree with what you said, however it's also mostly irrelevant.

Whatever the chance is, it really is unimportant. The market adjusts, very efficiently, so even if the chances were different the market would end up the exact same as it is now.

For sake of discussion, lets say items fall in power from 1-100. And also for the sake of discussion, lets say you can get a item as good as 90 in a few hours on average, but a 91+ item is much more rare, maybe dropping once every 12 hours. Most players would easily acquire sets of "90" gear, but 90 gear wouldn't really be worth any significant money on the auction house either. The super rare 91+ gear would be expensive and very hard to obtain outside of the auction house.

Now blizzard steps in, and realizes the sad plight of the players, and adjusts drops. Now you can easily get up to a "95" item within a few hours. Soon everyone has sets of 95 gear, and 95 gear is worth nearly nothing on the auction house. The only possible upgrades are now 96+ gear, which again is super expensive and so rare that you only see one piece every few days of farming, and even then it's probably not going to be itemized for your class and build. The situation is unchanged.

It doesn't matter where blizzard sets the "rarity limit", because whatever is easily obtainable will NEVER hold high value on the auction house. The only real "solution" to this would be for blizzard to not have any rare items at all, in which case everyone gets an optimal set in the first days of playing and loses any desire to ever play again- not a solution at all.

This so-called problem that blizzard created is not a problem at all, it's simply the nature of the game, and there is no way around it.
 

Adrenaline

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Jun 12, 2005
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I'm not sure how can you misread his statement so badly. I'm tired of arguing about comprehension, instead I'll simply point out the massively huge flaw in your theory.

All the items on the auction house are there because they dropped for someone.

There is no conspiracy, no magical algorithm preventing you from getting the stuff you want from the auction house as a drop- this is provable because in order for that item to be in the auction house at all, it had to drop for somebody else.

Anyway, I'm done. You seem to be under some delusion which I can't break you out of, but hopefully others won't be poisoned by your posts.

I am not sure how you can misread his statement so bad. Your reading comprehension is that of a three year old.

He said it, deal with it. He put it out there, deal with it.

Regardless of what you think, he put it out there.

Anyway, you aren't getting your way so you start crying and run away.
 
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Adrenaline

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I found two more legendaries and a set piece today.

Edit:

Found another Lacuni today. I gave them to the guy I was with in game.

Close to ten hours played since last night and 6 legendaries and 2 sets so far. Off to work.
 
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darkxshade

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Mar 31, 2001
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I had a few friends who played casually get some set drops since patch and asked me what they were worth. I told them if they are getting these drops, they can't be worth that much for long so sell em quick before it's too late.
 

pandemonium

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Mar 17, 2011
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Don't waste your gold. Roll a Barb. That's what i'm doing at the moment. After you hit MP6, you're hit so hard by the monsters dodge on the monk doesn't do anything. You get oneshot by the huge hammer guys in A1 and the big 4 legged monster that does slow slam.

That's why you cyclone spam. Cyclone Vortex is quite possibly the most useful and perfect skill any light tank class should have in any game. This skill is the ultimate reason why I'm still playing my Monk.
 

pandemonium

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Mar 17, 2011
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I posted yesterday that I saw prices dropping while I was playing. I'm sure there's frequencies where a surplus of a certain item hits the market and to be competative people start pricing lower. In general though, I've noticed most things have dropped in price by about 10-15% so far. (Legendaries and set items have anyways. I've noticed amulets and rings haven't dropped at all...if anything they've increased in price. Very disappointed there!)

It'll probably be a couple of weeks yet.
 

Imp

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Feb 8, 2000
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Found 2 legendaries in 2 hours: one POS Gidbinn and one okay, but not played class, witch doctor item.

RMAH is screwed up when selling gold. The buy/sell default price for gold is $0.54-ish, but the transaction confirmation keeps coming out $0.39/million then 15% + 15% fees.

Edit: Okay, it's an email bug only.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6935293927
 
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fustercluck

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not seeing gear prices coming down at all, anyone else see anything dropping?

Not really much of anything is dropping in price. Still in the patch grace period where people just want to gear up to play higher monster power levels. I think it'll take about another 2-4 weeks till we start seeing an overall change in the prices of items in general. I was hoping they would come down more after the patch but I'm tired of my character stinking up the join so I've been on a shopping spree the past couple days
 
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Just found a Blackthorn's Notched Belt with

+196 strength
+47 physical res
+74 all res
+Life Regen 250~
+Extra gold
+armor

I did not find any other belts with as high of AR as mine. I put it on AH for 15M starting, 30M buyout...too low/high?
 

pandemonium

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Mar 17, 2011
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I can't see current prices for matching stats with yours, but I'm guessing you've set it too low. Doesn't hurt starting high and trying again the next round a little lower. ^^
 

Chiropteran

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I am not sure how you can misread his statement so bad. Your reading comprehension is that of a three year old.

He said it, deal with it. He put it out there, deal with it.

Regardless of what you think, he put it out there.

Anyway, you aren't getting your way so you start crying and run away.

"It"? Yes, he said "it", what he didn't say was what you claimed he said. Your post was false. What Bashiok said was not the same as what you said, and instead of refuting my clear logic explaining why you start calling names instead, real mature. You were wrong, end of story.
 

waterjug

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Not really much of anything is dropping in price. Still in the patch grace period where people just want to gear up to play higher monster power levels. I think it'll take about another 2-4 weeks till we start seeing an overall change in the prices of items in general. I was hoping they would come down more after the patch but I'm tired of my character stinking up the join so I've been on a shopping spree the past couple days

So YOU'RE the one keeping high prices afloat!
 

digiram

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Apr 17, 2004
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Just found a Blackthorn's Notched Belt with

+196 strength
+47 physical res
+74 all res
+Life Regen 250~
+Extra gold
+armor

I did not find any other belts with as high of AR as mine. I put it on AH for 15M starting, 30M buyout...too low/high?

Good price for it, I think. Would be worth more if it had vit.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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Bought a Zuni Marrow last night, and it doesn't show up in my stash.. wtf? Right before I was about to go to sleep though. It better be there when I log in tonight.
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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Bought some radiant star ruby gems today. Glad i waited patiently. Bought at 8M each

Going to buy some later tonight/ possibly tomorrow.

I bought Emeralds yesterday at about 7.8 the dropped to like 6 mil
Hoping Rubies do the same.



Just bought it~ 9 of them to be exact. 68 millish
 
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