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Lifer
Sep 21, 2000
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Yeah I'm bored too. I played a bit yesterday as there were a few people online I used to run with. We did some farming, then some ubers. That was alright.

I blew 100M gold on a witching hour. It upped my dmg by ~12k I think.

How are you so well geared at PL 41?
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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How are you so well geared at PL 41?

I found some IK gloves with IAS that I sold for 250M a while back. The witching hour was 100M, but other than that, I've bought everything for maybe 20M a piece max. Most less. Some of them I've found myself.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
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Pretty sad.. I found a 2 socket dex manti with 1090 dps and only got 40 m for it. Then another 2 socket manti 980 /w dex that likely won't sell, so guess my alt. DH will use it. Now I have to sell her Danetta's set that I really liked to. Also, all of my characters now have a scoundrel with a manticore now. I have found 7, sad that the decent rolls didn't come till now.

Also got played by a compass rose. Those things look just like zuni rings.. grrrr
 

skillyho

Golden Member
Nov 6, 2005
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It blows my mind that some of you guys spend 250m+ on a character...I have one of each class and most of my builds are between 5-10m, with my WD/Wiz having about 20m each in them...I guess I just need to get a really good drop to finally take me up to baller status.

:\

Anyway, super ready for 1.07 to give me a reason to play again.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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It blows my mind that some of you guys spend 250m+ on a character...I have one of each class and most of my builds are between 5-10m, with my WD/Wiz having about 20m each in them...I guess I just need to get a really good drop to finally take me up to baller status.

:\

Anyway, super ready for 1.07 to give me a reason to play again.

I just have one character, so put all your resources into one and where do you land?
 

Wyndru

Diamond Member
Apr 9, 2009
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What's this about items becoming soulbound?

I haven't heard that, do you have a link to this?

Unless you mean some of the account bound crafted items they are introducing (similar to Hellfire ring)...
 

waterjug

Senior member
Jan 21, 2012
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wow...1.07 still not out? It's going to be 1 year before ANY PvP actually comes around isn't it? I logged in the other day, thought about playing some, then realized no one I knew had logged on in at least a week then logged off again
 

fstime

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2004
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This game is trash, I finally quit about a week ago.

Boring itemization (just stack AS/CC/CD and primary attribute), complete shit drops, auction house, no socialization, discouragement of group play, no character customization or build diversity, AH bots and gold farming bots, and finally, shitty communication by Blizzard with the community.

Move to Path of Exile, it is amazing a game that is FREE is so much better than D3. I can only imagine what they could have done with the game if they had Blizzard's resources.

No AH gold based economy but a item based trading economy, an actual customization skill tree, great itemization with huge diversity potential, and the list goes on.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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This game is trash, I finally quit about a week ago.

Boring itemization (just stack AS/CC/CD and primary attribute), complete shit drops, auction house, no socialization, discouragement of group play, no character customization or build diversity, AH bots and gold farming bots, and finally, shitty communication by Blizzard with the community.

Move to Path of Exile, it is amazing a game that is FREE is so much better than D3. I can only imagine what they could have done with the game if they had Blizzard's resources.

No AH gold based economy but a item based trading economy, an actual customization skill tree, great itemization with huge diversity potential, and the list goes on.

By customization, you mean picking a bunch of main stat nodes, or choosing what weapon you will use at level 10 for the rest of the game without knowing what you'll actually end up getting later on? Oh and the economy is awful. "Hey want this item, well instead of farming some amount of gold, go farm some amount of [random item I want]" Yeah, that is a lot of fun. Let us not forget how unpolished the game itself is. The sounds are terrible, the animations look like what I'd expect from D2 (you know, 10+ years ago). Why don't you go post in the PoE thread instead of trying to troll in here.
 

fstime

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2004
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By customization, you mean picking a bunch of main stat nodes, or choosing what weapon you will use at level 10 for the rest of the game without knowing what you'll actually end up getting later on? Oh and the economy is awful. "Hey want this item, well instead of farming some amount of gold, go farm some amount of [random item I want]" Yeah, that is a lot of fun. Let us not forget how unpolished the game itself is. The sounds are terrible, the animations look like what I'd expect from D2 (you know, 10+ years ago). Why don't you go post in the PoE thread instead of trying to troll in here.

No one is trolling, I have leveled three level 60 characters (two of which have surpassed 200K DPS) in D3 and have hundreds of millions of gold sitting on my now unused account.

Sorry to say, but that's just the truth. Go to the Blizzard forums and see for yourself how upset the community is. I GUARANTEE Blizzard will not fool the community twice and you can expect any sort of D3 expansion to be a major sales disappointment in comparison to D3. Look at all the fails from Blizzard: still no PvP, still shitty crafting, still boring itemization, still a horrible economy.........and so on.

Once again, POE is free, D3 is made by a large corporation with endless resources. Obviously one is more polished, but one sticks to the communities roots and isn't some dumbed down game that is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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No one is trolling, I have leveled three level 60 characters (two of which have surpassed 200K DPS) in D3 and have hundreds of millions of gold sitting on my now unused account.

Sorry to say, but that's just the truth. Go to the Blizzard forums and see for yourself how upset the community is. I GUARANTEE Blizzard will not fool the community twice and you can expect any sort of D3 expansion to be a major sales disappointment in comparison to D3. Look at all the fails from Blizzard: still no PvP, still shitty crafting, still boring itemization, still a horrible economy.........and so on.

Once again, POE is free, D3 is made by a large corporation with endless resources. Obviously one is more polished, but one sticks to the communities roots and isn't some dumbed down game that is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

And PoE has a lot of terrible things with it. The itemization is even worse. Main stat and a couple affixes are all you worry about in D3. In PoE, you've also got to worry about number of sockets, color of sockets, and if they are linked or not.

You want to quote the Blizzard forums! Ha. The same forums that have people who have bitched about WoW for 8 years and still put in thousands of hours. People will bitch on the internet all day. Most of those people on Blizzard's forums, continue to play. But, Blizzard doesn't bother locking or removing threads that criticize them and don't have GM's who mute / ban people for discussing the positives of other games.

But PoE is free right? I am suppose to ignore all those things, and the fact their are 3 combat sounds in the entire game because I didn't pay for it!

You are trolling. Go post in the PoE thread because nobody that comes to a D3 thread gives a shit about your opinion on PoE.
 

darkewaffle

Diamond Member
Oct 7, 2005
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Go to the Blizzard forums and see for yourself how upset the community is. I GUARANTEE Blizzard will not fool the community twice and you can expect any sort of D3 expansion to be a major sales disappointment in comparison to D3. Look at all the fails from Blizzard: still no PvP, still shitty crafting, still boring itemization, still a horrible economy.........and so on.

Once again, POE is free, D3 is made by a large corporation with endless resources. Obviously one is more polished, but one sticks to the communities roots and isn't some dumbed down game that is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

I don't think you could find a single 'official' game forum that isn't full of a bunch of people with sandy panties.

There's practically no such thing as a not dumbed down loot game. The defining features of the loot game is simple gameplay, simple decisions, and, in essence, lack of involvement from the player: you can basically play by holding down M1 or M2 and pointing your cursor in the general direction of enemies. That's all the game asks of you. The backbone of the entire genre is people doing the exact same mindless things over and over and over in an endless, carrot on a stick quest for bigger numbers. There's no depth to it, there's no greater theme or idea or purpose. It's that simple. They're all "dumb". That doesn't mean people can't have fun or play for a long time by any means, but call a spade a spade.
 

fstime

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2004
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And PoE has a lot of terrible things with it. The itemization is even worse. Main stat and a couple affixes are all you worry about in D3. In PoE, you've also got to worry about number of sockets, color of sockets, and if they are linked or not.

You want to quote the Blizzard forums! Ha. The same forums that have people who have bitched about WoW for 8 years and still put in thousands of hours. People will bitch on the internet all day. Most of those people on Blizzard's forums, continue to play. But, Blizzard doesn't bother locking or removing threads that criticize them and don't have GM's who mute / ban people for discussing the positives of other games.

But PoE is free right? I am suppose to ignore all those things, and the fact their are 3 combat sounds in the entire game because I didn't pay for it!

You are trolling. Go post in the PoE thread because nobody that comes to a D3 thread gives a shit about your opinion on PoE.

You sound like a butt-hurt fanboy. If the PoE system is too complicated for your brain, than I can understand your love for D3's simple system where there is one set of BiS gear for each class and no theory-crafting.

Enjoy the dying game and Diablo 3 community. If you think this game was not an overall disappointment coming from D2 fans, you are blind and cannot be helped. I can assure you, most will not be coming back next time around.
 

Wyndru

Diamond Member
Apr 9, 2009
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No one is trolling, I have leveled three level 60 characters (two of which have surpassed 200K DPS) in D3 and have hundreds of millions of gold sitting on my now unused account.

If you hated the game so bad, why did you insist on playing it for so long? I really don't understand why everyone is so pissed at this game, and yet they have hundreds of hours logged.

It sounds like you may have just gotten burnt out on it. I'm glad you found something more enjoyable to play, but claiming that the entire D3 community feels the same way as you and your only proof of this is because of all the negative threads on bnet is a little sad.
 

badb0y

Diamond Member
Feb 22, 2010
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If you hated the game so bad, why did you insist on playing it for so long? I really don't understand why everyone is so pissed at this game, and yet they have hundreds of hours logged.

It sounds like you may have just gotten burnt out on it. I'm glad you found something more enjoyable to play, but claiming that the entire D3 community feels the same way as you and your only proof of this is because of all the negative threads on bnet is a little sad.

1.) Unlike most other games, Diablo 3 is a loot-based ARPG. The warning signs of it being a terrible game were there (terrible story, discouraged group play) but there were also signs of greatness because the combat was so fluid and polished. To get a good feel for games like these you need to log a lot of hours before you realize all you did was waste time. The end game for me was just running around in circle pressing sprint.....and people I grouped up with usually did the same. There was also the fact that Blizzard promised PvP (a big component in Diablo 2/LoD) and released occasional patches that would make the game more interesting for a while which kept me playing for a while. The only act worth farming is Act 3 because it has the best monster density and Ubers are a waste of time because surprise the ring sucks donkey balls 90% of the time. This game failed at being a Diablo game and that's just the truth.

2.) Of course not everyone is going to criticize the game, there's the usual Blizzard fanboys, Diablos fanboys, and finally the people who actually like the game. As the game is right now I would wager that 60%+ of the playerbase was unsatisfied and as far as the industry goes they have completely rejected Diablo 3. I think this is the only Blizzard game that won no GOTY awards but it did win plenty of the "Most disappointing game of 2012" awards.
 

Wyndru

Diamond Member
Apr 9, 2009
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1.) Unlike most other games, Diablo 3 is a loot-based ARPG. The warning signs of it being a terrible game were there (terrible story, discouraged group play) but there were also signs of greatness because the combat was so fluid and polished. To get a good feel for games like these you need to log a lot of hours before you realize all you did was waste time. The end game for me was just running around in circle pressing sprint.....and people I grouped up with usually did the same. There was also the fact that Blizzard promised PvP (a big component in Diablo 2/LoD) and released occasional patches that would make the game more interesting for a while which kept me playing for a while. The only act worth farming is Act 3 because it has the best monster density and Ubers are a waste of time because surprise the ring sucks donkey balls 90% of the time. This game failed at being a Diablo game and that's just the truth.

2.) Of course not everyone is going to criticize the game, there's the usual Blizzard fanboys, Diablos fanboys, and finally the people who actually like the game. As the game is right now I would wager that 60%+ of the playerbase was unsatisfied and as far as the industry goes they have completely rejected Diablo 3. I think this is the only Blizzard game that won no GOTY awards but it did win plenty of the "Most disappointing game of 2012" awards.

I don't know, I played D2 for years, 7 years total with that being my primary game, and while D3 is different I see myself playing this for years also. I recently went back and played through D2 and I don't like as much as D3 at this point.

It seems like with this game a lot more people are fixated on specific builds though, which I don't really get into. If I just ran a WW barb for hundreds of hours I'd want to gouge my eyes out and chop off my fingers. It reminds me of the hammerdin in D2. Anyhow, I try to modify the builds a little bit from time to time, and I finally have all 5 chars up to 60 so I'm figuring that it will keep me busy for a while.

I guess I'm just surprised at all the hate, but I don't really care as long as I can still log in I'm happy.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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You sound like a butt-hurt fanboy. If the PoE system is too complicated for your brain, than I can understand your love for D3's simple system where there is one set of BiS gear for each class and no theory-crafting.

Enjoy the dying game and Diablo 3 community. If you think this game was not an overall disappointment coming from D2 fans, you are blind and cannot be helped. I can assure you, most will not be coming back next time around.

You caught me! I'm the butt-hurt fanboy that comes into a thread about a game I don't like and try and trash it to all the people who do. Oh wait... that was you.

And theory crafting? Do you understand what that is? How do we end up with these builds we hear so much about? People theory crafting of course.

BiS gear for each class? I doubt you've done PoE end game and have a level 80+ character getting end game gear to compare these, but let's say you do. The uniques that will be BiS will still exist, you just don't know them yet.

Now that "huge, in depth, amazing" skill grid you love to bring up. 1/3 of all the nodes are stats, another 1/3 are weapon specifics. There are what 12 "unique" nodes that do stuff like convert all evasion into armor? Very in depth! Find the most efficient path to the unique I want then spend the rest in whatever weapon / stat I prefer. Such depth! I've solved the riddle of the grid already!

Story in D3 was bad you say? Is there ever a story in PoE? "Hey you're a criminal so you're exiled to this place (whatever that place is I've no idea)". "Okay, so here I am, exiled like a criminal. I will just kill everything until I find some strangely dressed lady then I'll chase her and kill her." Yeah, much better than D3. I bet the devs win a Pulitzer for it!

Economy, or lack there of. D3 has a simple, tried and true, get gold and use it for everything economy. Sure, inflation happens, but gold sinks can be put in place to help that. Don't think so? Put in some neon dye or something similarly cosmetic and make it cost outrageous prices. People love that. Doesn't change anything except how you look and takes gold out of the economy. PoE? Trade random items someone wants for something you want. Don't have [whatever orb] they are want? You're gonna have a grand time farming it.

Now, I don't dislike PoE. I just have no blinders on because it is free or it is in beta. All the fanboys claiming it will be the D3 killer remind me of all those people who said the same thing about TL2. They also sound a lot like all those people who said [insert any Android phone] being the iPhone killer.
 

pandemonium

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Mar 17, 2011
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I've been waiting for 1.0.7 to release to see how much the changes made can accelerate progression to PL100. Otherwise, I'm playing GW2 right now, and enjoying it.
 

skillyho

Golden Member
Nov 6, 2005
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I just have one character, so put all your resources into one and where do you land?

80m tops....which is still less than 1/3rd of what I said. :hmm:

I'm not hating, I'm just jelly....I still stop at the Star gems too. :$
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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80m tops....which is still less than 1/3rd of what I said. :hmm:

I'm not hating, I'm just jelly....I still stop at the Star gems too. :$

I have spent so much on gear. =( I think my gloves cost more than 80 mil lol. Plus the 5 radiant star gems.
 

Dumac

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2005
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Lets keep PoE out of this thread, just like we should keep D3 out of the PoE thread.

That said, is there any info on the current playerbase for D3? How many peak players or unique players they get per day? I was just looking at the stats of r/diablo
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Lets keep PoE out of this thread, just like we should keep D3 out of the PoE thread.

That said, is there any info on the current playerbase for D3? How many peak players or unique players they get per day? I was just looking at the stats of r/diablo

Well, I'd say probably 60% of those people log in every month. And I don't use reddit and I still play quite often. Probably close to 1.75 million uniques a month is a good guess. I highly doubt Blizzard will ever release this information. But, let's be honest. Close to 2 million players per month is a success for any game.
 
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