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stag3

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from what i've read for shoulders at least, you want to roll vitality plans since max roll you can get is 300str/330 vital = 630
max roll on strength plans is 330str/200 vital = 530

for intel/dex you want the actual mainstat
 

digiram

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from what i've read for shoulders at least, you want to roll vitality plans since max roll you can get is 300str/330 vital = 630
max roll on strength plans is 330str/200 vital = 530

for intel/dex you want the actual mainstat

holy crap, thanks for info. Time to waste more gold and mats, lol
 

stag3

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that was ONLY for strength for a barb, don't want you guys crafting and blaming me
for all other classes you want to craft XXX of dex/intel
 

Wyndru

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I think they've upped the max on the main stat category for crafted archon items. I've rolled silly 300+ stats on many items. Just getting cc, cd on gloves or just cc on bracers and such is difficult. Shoulders are pretty easy to roll good stats on though.

At least crafting is back in the game though. I'm enjoying it. Been buying up tons of exquisite essences and tears lately. Prices on those are gonna start going up soon, I bet.

Yeah, I've been salvaging a lot of yellows lately. The only ingredient I've been purchasing is the fiery brimstone, because my MF is still low so I don't get many legendaries.

My gear was pretty bad though, so the crafting has already boosted my DPS. I have a trifecta amulet that I haven't been able to beat with crafting yet though. That might take a while. At least it gives me something to aim for now, it was getting a little boring before this patch.
 

smackababy

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Crafting seems like such a long shot for me. Only shoulders seem in reach for an upgrade. I have str trifecta gloves with AR and STR trifecta ammy with average damage. =(

I think thinking about upgrading my echoing fury though. 1100 dps with str vit and a socket just isn't cutting it. I want better stats. Sadly, I won't take anything with less than 0.24 APS increase and those are few and far between.
 

digiram

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that was ONLY for strength for a barb, don't want you guys crafting and blaming me
for all other classes you want to craft XXX of dex/intel

doh, I tried it last night for my wd. Got below 100 int each time, but didn't see any really high str either. I tried 5 though.
 

pcmatt1024

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I've found that upgrading flawless gems up just one level usually yields better prices for the "crappier" gems. For example, 3 topazes at 500 gold plus 30k gold to make one upgrade. That's a cost of 31,500 gold and they sell for about 40,000 minus 15% commission to net 2.5k gold (40 x 0.85 = 34 - 31.5 = 2.5). You should have the lower level recipes by now considering how cheap they are and how often they fall.

keep in mind it takes 3 tomes to do that upgrade too though, which should be worth 2.5k.

The prices of gems (especially emeralds) and tomes fluctuates A LOT. Just seconds apart, I've seen the "autosell" price on tomes go from 1700 to 600 to 1400. I'm thinking the market is being manipulated by people selling small quantities at a very low price to drive down the average price. Then when unsuspecting individuals put up their stacks of 100+ at whatever price is autoset, they get quickly snatched up. Best to check the average price over the last day vs the last 10 trades.
 

Dumac

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Nope, it wasen't

It was obvious going into D3. Console version has been known about for a long time. Design changes were made to fit both platforms.

I didn't even think people would say "called it" because I thought everybody knew...
 

smackababy

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It was obvious going into D3. Console version has been known about for a long time. Design changes were made to fit both platforms.

I didn't even think people would say "called it" because I thought everybody knew...

I am confused what was obvious about it. The passive skills? Yeah because COD invented that...

The fact that you get 4 skill buttons and two mouse buttons? Like a ton of other games and consoles didn't invent that.

Simple skills? I am confused on what is simple about them and how this has anything to do with console games.

Naming a game? Oh man that is what I want! I list of games with stupid names... And how does this have anything to do with console games? I can name my own party in Phantasy Star Online and that was on consoles.

Stat point assignment? That has nothing to do with consoles and you still number crunch to find the best specs. You don't get to assign those in WoW either, I guess that was made for consoles as well.

I guess this whole "omg the game was designed around consoles" garbage is a little more fresh than the "omg the game was designed around the AH" trash people keep spitting out.
 

PowerYoga

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Its just a failure in innovation and over simplifying things that didn't need it, not so much designed around consoles. The whole console idea is probably activision's push, not blizzard's.
 

stag3

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perfect word yoga, over simplified game.

man skorn's with LS are still way out of my price range
 

smackababy

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I don't see how it is over simplified. I see it as not overly complicated just for the sake of being complicated. The point of these types of games are to farm as much as possible to get better gear. The fun, to me, is being able to kill as many monsters are possible, while getting what could be that next great item. Look at PoE's leveling system. Sure the grid looks impressive, but really it is just 12 unique passives, stats, weapon modifiers and a few utility nodes. It looks as if the developers wanted something "new" and different and just went overboard with it. They could remove all the stat nodes completely and it wouldn't change the complexity of the grid at all. You would "punish" the people who want to just pick INT and DEX on STR based melee characters, but those people are stupid anyway.

On a lighter note, I've resorted to putting my main hand up for sale on the AH every time I stop playing with the hopes that someone will buy it so I can have a bit more gold to upgrade. If I do end up selling it, I should have around 350mil for a new one. Sadly, I won't get what I really want with that. =( I need close to 2bil for a STR Echoing Fury with a socket, CD, and at least .24 APS.
 

waggy

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Its just a failure in innovation and over simplifying things that didn't need it, not so much designed around consoles. The whole console idea is probably activision's push, not blizzard's.

sure i think activision pushed that. from what i read they pretty much dictated the game from the start. so it being on PS4 is not a surprise to me at all.

It is rather over simple. one of the great things about D2 was being able to change your charector to fit what you want. you could have many many different styles on just one type


I mainly blame activision for releasing the game while it still sucked and was not finished.
 

Wyndru

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Ugh, I'm having bad luck on the ammys. Every one I make rolls 1 of each main stat (other than vitality of course). So almost every one I have made I has xxx to strength, intelligence and dexterity and the last 2 modifiers are usually useless too. I haven't even seen any ias, cc or cd yet after about 10 ammys.

I wish it was only able to roll at max 2 main stats at a time, instead of all 4.
 

smackababy

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Ugh, I'm having bad luck on the ammys. Every one I make rolls 1 of each main stat (other than vitality of course). So almost every one I have made I has xxx to strength, intelligence and dexterity and the last 2 modifiers are usually useless too. I haven't even seen any ias, cc or cd yet after about 10 ammys.

I wish it was only able to roll at max 2 main stats at a time, instead of all 4.

The same should be said about gear. How many items have you found with STR, INT, and DEX? There should be a single main stat modifier and the rest for other things.


Whoever said the shoulders were the best rolling vit, I question that. I've made close to 50 and haven't seen a single with higher than like 90 STR.
 

stag3

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The same should be said about gear. How many items have you found with STR, INT, and DEX? There should be a single main stat modifier and the rest for other things.


Whoever said the shoulders were the best rolling vit, I question that. I've made close to 50 and haven't seen a single with higher than like 90 STR.

rng is rng

here's the article about the shoulders, as well as other pieces

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-crafting-strategy-the-new-archon-items

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7923032560?page=2#31
 

Grooveriding

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Yes, it was. I thought it was common knowledge by now

Is it bad that I am planning on getting D3 on PS4 just for couch co-op?

We all knew it was a trashy console game right from the start. After the first week when I realized the game was pure garbage I immediately correlated much of its fail to the planned release on console. It's why it's not designed as, nor is, an rpg - it's an action spammy game where you hold down a single button and don't have to think about any sort of customization elements. Just pump your main stat and a few modifiers.

Diablo is not the current Blizzard's game anyways. They got rights to the IP after the real creators left the company and then took the market power of the name and released this bastardized pile of crap to cash in on it. The game has nothing of what is an actual Diablo game in it apart from stealing character names from the actual Diablo games; D1, D2 & LOD.

This is going to be standard fare from Blizzard going forward. Homogenized shitty content developed for mass profit rather than quality.
 

Alex C

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Got my second ever set piece within days of the first one and it's the same thing. Seems really odd. Also got an Azurewrath and don't really get how that can be a lvl 63 legendary, the max rolls are all awful.
 
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