**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[Zenoth]

To be honest I can't wait for the expansion, Diablo III has way too much potential to just sit there and take dust. I think that Reaper of Souls is going in the right direction for pretty much everything new it offers.

My only issue is the waiting, obviously, because there's still about four months to go and in the meantime the Diablo III I [we] have isn't changing much and still gets boring after a session of one hour. So for now and until the expansion comes out I'm just not touching it... but I wish I could. Well, I can of course, but if I do I play one hour and then leave it untouched for two weeks, which isn't "normal" for a Diablo/ARPG style game fan like I am.

 

[pandemonium]

I really don't care how much better the game will be: I'm jaded and disappointed.

I got my money spent out of it and while it was certainly a broken game to begin with and never appropriately addressed. I think it's appalling how Blizzard can expect its players to pay for an expansion for fixes that should've been dealt with.

I've given Activision/Blizzard way too many chances, by going back on my decision to not buy their games again. Hopefully this time I've learned my lesson finally.

 

[Cappuccino]

LOL! It's to late to save Diablo 3 now. How many patches and chances Blizzard given us? All of them failed. All the players left. Yes ofc players will come back when Expansion is released, but even if the game is improved drastically, people will still complain and quit because of the past. Sad but true, IMO.

 

[smackababy]

I uninstalled after they said the were removing the AH. I was probably one of the few people who actually liked the idea of it being in the game. I want (and was able to get) perfectly rolled gear. There is no reason I should be forced to use garbage forums like d2jsp and deal with people who think their gear is worth billions and anyone else selling any is worth a fraction. And with the removal of the AH, gold is going to be pretty worthless outside of gem crafting, so it goes back to trading. PoE already fails at this.

 

[gothamhunter]

I uninstalled after they said the were removing the AH. I was probably one of the few people who actually liked the idea of it being in the game. I want (and was able to get) perfectly rolled gear. There is no reason I should be forced to use garbage forums like d2jsp and deal with people who think their gear is worth billions and anyone else selling any is worth a fraction. And with the removal of the AH, gold is going to be pretty worthless outside of gem crafting, so it goes back to trading. PoE already fails at this.

It fails wonderfully then.

 

[smackababy]

It fails wonderfully then.

If by wonderful, you mean in order to buy an item I have to find a random collection of orbs AND the end game community is pretty much so picky it is hard to trade even mediocre things for cheap. And the only way to do this is to spam in /trade or post on some forum.

No thanks. An AH is such a better way to trade. I did the forum + spam thing in 1997 in Ultima Online. It was a waste of time then, and is a waste of time now.

 

[gothamhunter]

If by wonderful, you mean in order to buy an item I have to find a random collection of orbs AND the end game community is pretty much so picky it is hard to trade even mediocre things for cheap. And the only way to do this is to spam in /trade or post on some forum.

No thanks. An AH is such a better way to trade. I did the forum + spam thing in 1997 in Ultima Online. It was a waste of time then, and is a waste of time now.

Do you even vendor bro?

jk

Most gems can all be convered to others through the vendor. You just need to find a weapon you want and use the gems. Hell, just buy a 6L white item from someone and upgrade it to a rare and reroll properties.

 

[Malladine]

It has an interesting plot line - i'll check RoS out. D3 had major problems as anyone else here agrees - AH, map randomization, 3 relatively shitty acts after ACT 1, etc, but overall it was fine, i can't exactly say otherwise given i spent more time playing it than most $60 games i've bought.

 

[Dumac]

Is anyone else upset about good drops being account bound now?

I feel like its hurting the experience of legitimate players in the name of stopping bots.

 

[gothamhunter]

Is anyone else upset about good drops being account bound now?

I feel like its hurting the experience of legitimate players in the name of stopping bots.

I kind of agree on it, but not so sure yet. I do like this post though:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/10497100079?page=1#16

Also voicing my opinion and how I support BoA for Legendary/Set's and why I prefer it:

- I find playing the game to advance is the most fun
- It makes these items actually feel special and personal, rather than just a commodity.
- Major blow to 3rd party sales, botting, and sense of pay 2 win in the community.
- Currently most people use trading systems to "max out" their characters with exactly what they want much too quickly, then get angry and complain about loot because they can't find upgrades or slightly higher variants of what they want because they cost unrealistically huge amounts of currency. I think the game functions better with the mindset that you acquire the best you possibly can as a player rather than what you think you're entitled to at the end of the game. Especially with ladders.
-Blizzard will be free to change drop rates to something more self found appropriate.
-Keeping the economy stable in the past has constantly been an uphill battle and has lead to major problems because of it. With this system the economy will be far less of a factor or a problem.

 

[smackababy]

I kind of agree on it, but not so sure yet. I do like this post though:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/10497100079?page=1#16

The problem with his post is that with an AH and non BoA legendaries, you get the exact same experience if you chose. The only thing this does is remove the option for other players.

But, Blizzard is always wanting to make changes based on the whiners that post on their forums.

 

[digiram]

Haven't played in a month.. logged on for 10 minutes and a mempo dropped. I id it and it has 180 int+6cc.. wow. Wish it would've dropped a year ago.

 

[Jumpem]

Is anyone else upset about good drops being account bound now?

I feel like its hurting the experience of legitimate players in the name of stopping bots.

It's a non-issue since the AH is going away.

 

[silverpig]

The problem with his post is that with an AH and non BoA legendaries, you get the exact same experience if you chose. The only thing this does is remove the option for other players.

But, Blizzard is always wanting to make changes based on the whiners that post on their forums.

Not really. They'll be tuning the drop rates so you can actually find good stuff yourself.

I've got a 300k dps DH. I have found a few good items, but they were non-DH so I sold them and bought DH stuff. If there was no AH, I'd have a 90k dps DH.

With these changes, I won't be able to buy 300k dps DH gear anymore, but I could actually find it myself.

 

[Dumac]

It's a non-issue since the AH is going away.

How does that make it a non-issue?

Did you forget about this little thing called trading? You know, what people used to do before the giant automated machine that is the AH.

 

[Jumpem]

How does that make it a non-issue?

Did you forget about this little thing called trading? You know, what people used to do before the giant automated machine that is the AH.

Spamming a trade channel sure sounds like fun.

 

[Dumac]

Spamming a trade channel sure sounds like fun.

There are other ways to trade than spamming the trade channel.

Plus, at the very least, trading with friends.

 

[silverpig]

How does that make it a non-issue?

Did you forget about this little thing called trading? You know, what people used to do before the giant automated machine that is the AH.

How will you trade account bound items?

Apparently all the top end stuff will be account bound, and right now putting a gem in an item makes it account bound (no word on if removing the gem makes it tradable again).

Sure, some stuff will get traded, but it'll die down.

 

[smackababy]

How will you trade account bound items?

Apparently all the top end stuff will be account bound, and right now putting a gem in an item makes it account bound (no word on if removing the gem makes it tradable again).

Sure, some stuff will get traded, but it'll die down.

Which means either people will have incredibly bad gear and stop playing, the drop rates will be increased to the point of everyone can have amazing gear and stop playing, or they will nerf the game even more so you can beat Inferno in whites like in D2 and everyone will stop playing. >_>

They are trying to remove the value of gear in a game all about grinding to get better (and higher value) gear. What is the point getting 300k DPS if it doesn't make you any better / faster at doing the highest level stuff than 100k DPS?

I haven't really been following much after the AH announcement, but if they don't change anything, gems are dead. Marquise gem? Yeah, good luck picking up 100 million in gold to make ONE, IF you already have all the materials. Good luck picking up the 2400+ flawless squares plus who knows how many tomes of secrets.

 

[gothamhunter]

Which means either people will have incredibly bad gear and stop playing, the drop rates will be increased to the point of everyone can have amazing gear and stop playing, or they will nerf the game even more so you can beat Inferno in whites like in D2 and everyone will stop playing. >_>

They are trying to remove the value of gear in a game all about grinding to get better (and higher value) gear. What is the point getting 300k DPS if it doesn't make you any better / faster at doing the highest level stuff than 100k DPS?

I haven't really been following much after the AH announcement, but if they don't change anything, gems are dead. Marquise gem? Yeah, good luck picking up 100 million in gold to make ONE, IF you already have all the materials. Good luck picking up the 2400+ flawless squares plus who knows how many tomes of secrets.

Didn't read the rest after that. Having an uninformed opinion makes you ignorant.

 

[smackababy]

Didn't read the rest after that. Having an uninformed opinion makes you ignorant.

So, you're saying they HAVE announced they are increasing the gem drops and decreasing the gold required to make gems then? Thanks! I am glad you stopped reading. Not to mention decreased the cost of crafting and increased the material drops and salvages? Otherwise, crafting goes out the door as well.

 

[darkewaffle]

Me no likey new changes. They're really kowtowing to the complainypants crowd - but what about the game that I liked to play lol, I think the "silent majority" may be getting a raw deal here.

Following the proposed changes, I don't see a point in playing. It's essentially gutting all the good things about playing online - and offline "lootgames" really do nothing for me. It works for a game like Borderlands because that at least has the dialogue and humor and voiceacting and story that are compelling, but the only x-factor to Diablo is basically the cutscenes imo.

 

[Dumac]

How will you trade account bound items?

Apparently all the top end stuff will be account bound, and right now putting a gem in an item makes it account bound (no word on if removing the gem makes it tradable again).

Sure, some stuff will get traded, but it'll die down.

...that is my question and the issue of discussion. See blow:

Is anyone else upset about good drops being account bound now?

I feel like its hurting the experience of legitimate players in the name of stopping bots.

It's a non-issue since the AH is going away.

I firmly believe account bound loot has no place in an Diablo game.

 

[smackababy]

Me no likey new changes. They're really kowtowing to the complainypants crowd - but what about the game that I liked to play lol, I think the "silent majority" may be getting a raw deal here.

Following the proposed changes, I don't see a point in playing. It's essentially gutting all the good things about playing online - and offline "lootgames" really do nothing for me. It works for a game like Borderlands because that at least has the dialogue and humor and voiceacting and story that are compelling, but the only x-factor to Diablo is basically the cutscenes imo.

They are trying to appease the whiners who cry other people have it better. They want to find the very best loot so they can be special. Same as the people who cry about other classes being "OP". As if me farming faster on my barb somehow invalidates their crappy DH.

Blizzard has done this a lot and is trying to cater towards casuals more and more, except games like Diablo aren't made for casuals. The entire idea of spend X number of hours to grind out countless mobs for the chance to get Y item is basically for those willing to spend X^X number of hours.

Removing the AH takes away the experience of those who want that instant gratification and to give that back to them, they are making every drop better than the previous. So, essentially, everything is instant gratification, which means the majority of people won't bother for long.

 

[pandemonium]

They are trying to appease the whiners who cry other people have it better.

^ Such is the motto of Blizzard and all of their games. Make it easy enough for everyone to play, so they can has the most revenues! Three cheers for lowering the bar for everyone!