**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[pandemonium]

So funny how many "I Played D3 For 100+ Hours And Conclude That It Sucks" reviews/rants are out there (like the #1 1* review on Amazon). Do you realize how insane that sounds? If you think the game sucked, maybe you should've stopped playing after the first hour like a normal person would have. I've got a new game for you to review. It's called Stick A Fork In An Electrical Socket. Make sure you play it for 100+ hours to REALLY make sure you dislike it.

I think a person that plays longer has more credence than one who plays for a few hours...

I understand what you're saying, but if I were to listen to someone about something, they'd better actually know what they're talking about; the complete in and out, not the simple "it's good" review by joe schmoe that played the game for 20 minutes and said it sucked. Someone who's been into something longer, obviously, has more idea of what they're talking about. It's as simple as that.

If you think it's silly to use said logic to gauge who knows what they're talking about, that's your prerogative and not their problem.

Can you find any review that says they played for hundreds of hours and didn't have fun? I doubt it. You play for hundreds of hours because it's still fun. Just because your opinion is more well defined than someone who has only played a few hours doesn't mean they deserve less credit.

I had plenty of fun playing D3, and I still think there's a ton wrong with it. It's a Blizzard game...that goes without saying, lol. I guess I don't deserve to be heard, either, eh?

 

[Maverickbcp]

Eh I get what he's saying. If it sucked so bad then what kept you around for 100+ hours? A better way to put it(if this of course is what the Amazon type reviewer meant) "The game started out with a ton of issues but I stuck around in hopes they would get addressed. They never did and in fact the game has only gotten worse to the point that it's not playable anymore so don't waste your time". Just saying it sucks while also stating you played for 100+ hours is contradictory at best and causes one to question his sanity/need for self punishment lol. I too would scratch my head a bit after reading something like that. Of course as you mentioned though the flip side is you're usually left with someone who has no true experience in the game saying it sucked after essentially watching the previews. That's not much better to go on either.

 

[pandemonium]

Yeah.

We'll make this easy by defining "passionate".

Passionate isn't positive or negative. It's passionate. That's what people fail to understand when they see people that are passionate about certain things. It can go either way, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Just because they have a higher grasp on the situation with all of those hours spent passionately involved with it, doesn't mean they're less credible.

 

[Maverickbcp]

I agree. All I'm saying is I agree that at first glance the statement comes off quite contradictory and doesn't make sense. Of course it doesn't take long to figure out a couple possible explanations/better ways he could've described his feelings in his review for why he's feeling the way he is.

Anyways it's quite pointless to spend more time dissecting some random Amazon review so back to house hunting while I await someone to hopefully give me some advice regarding my post on the last page.

 

[alcoholbob]

I think a lot of the early motive for playing D3 was RMAH and cashing out, that's why over 95% of the players quit after the 1.0.3 patch. The pure vitriol about the game and the most game hours played by far was when the game was most punishing and the most pay to win. The only conclusion is: people hate D3 but played it because they wanted to profit from the pyramid scheme Blizzard had set up.

 

[Tweak155]

Hey guys I picked up D3 on it's release and only played for a little bit before life caused me to put it down temporarily. I only got my barb up to 44 but plan to return a little after the release of ROS. I don't usually spend a lot of real money on items/gold but wanted to grab some things while I still could to make my life is little easier upon my return.

So what are your suggestions? I was thinking buying 50mil but should I be looking at more? There won't be anymore AH so there prob won't be a need for much more. What items? I have a few stacks of various flawless square I think gems but figure gems and other such items that are useful regardless of your level/class may be wise to pick up.

Anyways any items/gear/crafting pieces you guys can recommend me for my barb and other classes as well as I will eventually be playing them all. Not looking for twink level gear but just some decent items I'll be glad I took the time to stock up on before they close the AH. Thanks.

I wouldn't buy anything. The RoS expansion could change things up in ways we don't anticipate. My assumption is if it is overly difficult for casuals, Blizzard will make those parts a little easier.

Given that you can't even TRADE gold, they'd really be screwing over those people just now buying the game + expansion if it was a huge need in the game.

 

[smackababy]

I think a lot of the early motive for playing D3 was RMAH and cashing out, that's why over 95% of the players quit after the 1.0.3 patch. The pure vitriol about the game and the most game hours played by far was when the game was most punishing and the most pay to win. The only conclusion is: people hate D3 but played it because they wanted to profit from the pyramid scheme Blizzard had set up.

Really now? 95%? Even after 1.0.7, there were over a million unique IPs logged into the game. That is more than 5%.



And I got trolled so hard last night. Playing on my DH after a reset in Act 2. Killed an elite pack. Legendary bow drops! Could it be? Have I reached the pinnacle of success? Nope... Some Raven garbage. =( Thanks Obama!

 

[darkewaffle]

New echoing fury < old echoing fury lol, attacks per second too good.

Also levelling a new character in torment is pretty amusing, outrageous XP but you get hella one shot. Going to give wizard a try and see how it pans out with (likely) just self-found gear and ending up with a mountain of Int and Vit and little else.

 

[smackababy]

New echoing fury < old echoing fury lol, attacks per second too good.

Also levelling a new character in torment is pretty amusing, outrageous XP but you get hella one shot. Going to give wizard a try and see how it pans out with (likely) just self-found gear and ending up with a mountain of Int and Vit and little else.

I did T1 up until about Maghda on a WD. Hit 50 in 2 hours. Granted, I was rolling Cain's set and getting one shot early on. Eventually, I hit 41 and scooped up my Barber or whatever 1300 DPS dagger with -19 level req on it was and easily dominated the last few levels.

I think Wizard will be a bit better, as they aren't awful early game like WD.

 

[Aikouka]

Eh I get what he's saying. If it sucked so bad then what kept you around for 100+ hours?

Because the type of gameplay hinges upon those that get addicted to it. I gave up the first time because I got tired of playing the same game over again and again and again only to "play the AH" to find loot that was even worth equipping. It doesn't help that I played Borderlands 2, which also pushes players to play the game over and over and over to play at "real difficulties".

I tried the game out again after the major patch, and as I said earlier, I find the game to be dull in comparison to other ARPGs. I find myself using so few active abilities and having to pay attention to so little that I just get bored. Yeah, the loot is better, but I'm over it.

In what is probably a surprise to most people that I know, I cancelled my pre-order for Reaper of Souls because I know I won't play it.

 

[sweenish]

New echoing fury < old echoing fury lol, attacks per second too good.

Also levelling a new character in torment is pretty amusing, outrageous XP but you get hella one shot. Going to give wizard a try and see how it pans out with (likely) just self-found gear and ending up with a mountain of Int and Vit and little else.

I had to drop down to master because of that. I'm still gaining at a decent clip, so I probably belong there until I get a few more paragon levels.

 

[CU]

I just thought of something and was wondering if it had been answered somewhere. I have several items in the auction house that didn't sale from way back when. Mostly just junk. But, what happens when the AH shuts down. Will it go to my stash what if I don't have room?

 

[darkewaffle]

AH has a notice up that items can be retrieved up until... June 4th or something? I forget the exact date but they aren't going to disappear on the 18th or anything like that.

 

[Cappuccino]

I just thought of something and was wondering if it had been answered somewhere. I have several items in the auction house that didn't sale from way back when. Mostly just junk. But, what happens when the AH shuts down. Will it go to my stash what if I don't have room?

Do you mean if someone bids on one of your item on the 24th and you still have 2 days left till the auction ends, and what will happen? All I can think of is that you will lose your item or get refunded and ofc the bidder will receive his/her gold back too. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh and only a idiot would put something on the AH on the 24th lol.

Edit - not 24th I mean the date that the auction house closes. (can't remember the exact date)

 

[artemicion]

I think a person that plays longer has more credence than one who plays for a few hours...

I understand what you're saying, but if I were to listen to someone about something, they'd better actually know what they're talking about; the complete in and out, not the simple "it's good" review by joe schmoe that played the game for 20 minutes and said it sucked. Someone who's been into something longer, obviously, has more idea of what they're talking about. It's as simple as that.

If you think it's silly to use said logic to gauge who knows what they're talking about, that's your prerogative and not their problem.

Can you find any review that says they played for hundreds of hours and didn't have fun? I doubt it. You play for hundreds of hours because it's still fun. Just because your opinion is more well defined than someone who has only played a few hours doesn't mean they deserve less credit.

I had plenty of fun playing D3, and I still think there's a ton wrong with it. It's a Blizzard game...that goes without saying, lol. I guess I don't deserve to be heard, either, eh?

I don't think you understood my post. I never said that more time spent in the game means your opinion is less valid. At one point, you say:

Can you find any review that says they played for hundreds of hours and didn't have fun? I doubt it.

That is EXACTLY what I said in my posts. There's all these reviews on Amazon and elsewhere where people say they played 100+ hours or leveled 3+ characters to 60 and they hate they game. Doesn't make sense.

Most likely these people are attention whores who feel the need to post extreme reviews to ensure that it gets read. I f-ing hate that. I read a review on Amazon (not D3, something else) where the guy admitted that his "real" review would be 3 stars, but he rated it 1 star on Amazon because "nobody reads the 3 star reviews." That shit annoys me to no end. Same thing with professional reviews that give extremely poor ratings so that their review stands out on Metacritic (*ahem* Gamespot's 6/10 review for Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze).

If these guys used experience and reasoned logic to reach their conclusions, I'd accept them. But they're not. They're just a bunch of holier-than-thou comic book men types that want to climb on the highest soapbox they can find to shout out what they believe is some super profound opinion.

 

[alcoholbob]

Really now? 95%? Even after 1.0.7, there were over a million unique IPs logged into the game. That is more than 5%.



And I got trolled so hard last night. Playing on my DH after a reset in Act 2. Killed an elite pack. Legendary bow drops! Could it be? Have I reached the pinnacle of success? Nope... Some Raven garbage. =( Thanks Obama!

Ok you got me, how about 94%? Or we can be more precise, like 93.8%?

 

[sweenish]

Ok you got me, how about 94%? Or we can be more precise, like 93.8%?

That's a nice try, but a one-time sample can show you wrong in your over-general assumption, but it still can't show a trend.

Best way to know would be various samples taken across a period of time (maybe a month) to capture regular users.

All you had to say before was "a fraction," and no one would have questioned you.

 

[smackababy]

Ok you got me, how about 94%? Or we can be more precise, like 93.8%?

Much closer to 10% were still playing each month months after 1.0.3. The claim that 95% of people were just trying to cash out on the "pyramid scheme" (and calling it that makes zero sense, but that is another argument). Look at games that sold and then look at how many people continue to play them over a prolonged period of time. Tomb Raider sold how many units? And how many are still playing it? The vast majority of people who bought the game are like the vast majority of people who buy every other game: they hop on the release of the week, play for a bit, and then never return. Claiming that because D3 didn't hold the interest of the majority of customers for a year and a half after release makes it equal (if not better) than 99% of games. How many games that far along in their life cycle keep 1 million unique players each month? If you really tried, you might find 10 or 15.

 

[sweenish]

This thread's obviously busy again, and now there are AT communities and clans. Is it going to get re-stickied?

 

[ChairShot]

Joined the clan last night, had a fun run trying to level up my wizzard. 6 legendaries dropped. 2 books, 3 bracers and a helm. All upgrades. Me happy even if nothing outta this world.

 

[DaTT]

This thread's obviously busy again, and now there are AT communities and clans. Is it going to get re-stickied?

Not a bad idea.

And, if you play on the Americas servers, our clan is Anandtech, send a join request if you haven't already. I also created an Anandtech Community.

 

[DaTT]

Oh look...another week of extended maintenance.....1PM PDT. Just updated.

 

[Tweak155]

Oh look...another week of extended maintenance.....1PM PDT. Just updated.

Dang it. Means I probably wont be able to play when I get home.

 

[DaTT]

Looks like a new patch. Patch notes are small and can found on your Battlenet launcher.

 

[smackababy]

Probably more hot fixes for quests that repeatedly give tons of XP. I don't get why they are 'nerfing' these. Who cares if people run a quest over and over for XP. The point of infinite paragons is to get people to level infinitely right?

I can understand the cursed chest rate nerf (it was literally like every other run).

I'm sure CotA will probably be the best XP / HR now, unless another quest is found repeatable.