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smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Thanks. I actually have a 2H that I crafted but I think i'll move to DW on the Monk...and probably my 60 Barb.

For the Monk, any types of weapons work right? But are the fist weapons roll better stats for the Monk? And is there some weapon type that are tailored for the Monk class? Daibo?

What you want is your main hand to be as slow of a weapon as possible (spear is the best) because your sweeping wind damage is based of that, thus you want it to be higher per hit. And you then want a faster off hand. I believe fists can roll better 'monk' stats, but on a weapon, you're better off going for the best damage. Unless you find a Won Kim Lao and a Thunderfury. Those both increase lightning damage, which ends up being your main damage type at 60.

Monks, IMO, are a lot of fun. I have 2 60s and a lot of hours on them.
 

Rhezuss

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2006
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Thanks smack! Yeah they seem really fun and different enough from a Barb to be ejoyable. I'm only level 12 though but i'm having a lot of fun.

I also started a WD, which is now to 19, and having fun with this class too.

Now i'm starting to suffer from the Alt desease and want to start a DH too...

Tonight I think i'm gonna try to finish the game on my Barb (I'm almost done with Act 3) so that will be done at least.
 

tedrodai

Golden Member
Jan 18, 2006
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I think most of the AH hate stems directly from so many other poorly thought-out aspects of the game that was originally launched. It highlighted a lot of those problems, since it was the facilitator of trade...and so people shot the messenger, so to speak. The AH interface was poor IMO, but that was just a small piece of the puzzle.

But trading in gold or items, AH or not, I don't care as long as it works. I'd prefer an AH. Blizzard did try to kill he cockroach with a nuke.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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The problem is that the original drop rates were in line with what D2 had. You weren't supposed to find a WF every other day. It didn't help that Inferno (at launch) was a giant gear check 99% of people failed instantly. But, people couldn't stand they couldn't do it. It is like WoW where people want to hit level cap and jump into end game raiding. And Blizzard caters toward them (not that it is a bad business move to do that).

People think they want the dupe days of D2, when everything is available and cheap. But, that cheapens the entire spirit of the game. What is the point having difficulties if you can get to the highest in a day or two?

I don't really care how it was in D2. I find Legendaries / Set items semi often now and they're not all upgrades... not to mention the plans. I had no idea there were such a variety of drops that could be found because... they'd rarely ever drop!

And now that they drop somewhat frequently, I still need to find ones that improve the areas I'm looking for, it's not like they're instant solutions to the problem, but at least I have a shot at it.

Not to mention all those sub level 60 legendaries were completely useless unless you were extremely extremely lucky to not only find one while leveling, but also that it had any relevant stats. Now those sub level 60 legendaries can actually be useful for some period of time. That was pretty much non existent before outside of finding a level 60 with - level req.

Even though legendaries drop more frequently, there are still quite a few I simply haven't found and that I continue to search for. I keep doing that search because legendaries actually drop now at more reasonable intervals.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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I think most of the AH hate stems directly from so many other poorly thought-out aspects of the game that was originally launched. It highlighted a lot of those problems, since it was the facilitator of trade...and so people shot the messenger, so to speak. The AH interface was poor IMO, but that was just a small piece of the puzzle.

But trading in gold or items, AH or not, I don't care as long as it works. I'd prefer an AH. Blizzard did try to kill he cockroach with a nuke.

Yeah I don't know why they removed the AH. They could have had both.
 

DeathReborn

Platinum Member
Oct 11, 2005
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Is it me or has Azmodan been toned down quite a bit?

He gained more spawns but now his laser attack is useless and the pools only appear around the edges. I think all the bosses are actually easier now than before, Belials "fireballs" don't hurt nearly as much now and they are easier to avoid, still one hits my DH on T6 though.
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Thanks smack! Yeah they seem really fun and different enough from a Barb to be ejoyable. I'm only level 12 though but i'm having a lot of fun.

I also started a WD, which is now to 19, and having fun with this class too.

Now i'm starting to suffer from the Alt desease and want to start a DH too...

Tonight I think i'm gonna try to finish the game on my Barb (I'm almost done with Act 3) so that will be done at least.

Me too with the alt disease. I did get my Wizard through the game to 60 and now Paragon 16, but I've also taken a WD to 13 through skeleton king, a monk to level 9 and a Demon Hunter to level 8. This is all with the past week.

Trying to decide if I want to level one of those alts to 60 before the bonus experience runs out, or just concentrate on Paragon levels with the Wizard since all of the alts benefit from that as well. I think if I do level on of the alts, it would be the Demon Hunter. She seemed pretty fun.
 

ChairShot

Senior member
May 6, 2003
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Just preordered RoS via battle.net. Do I have to reinstall everything or will eveything unlock by itself on the 25th?
 

pandemonium

Golden Member
Mar 17, 2011
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What you want is your main hand to be as slow of a weapon as possible (spear is the best) because your sweeping wind damage is based of that, thus you want it to be higher per hit. And you then want a faster off hand. I believe fists can roll better 'monk' stats, but on a weapon, you're better off going for the best damage. Unless you find a Won Kim Lao and a Thunderfury. Those both increase lightning damage, which ends up being your main damage type at 60.

Monks, IMO, are a lot of fun. I have 2 60s and a lot of hours on them.

Sweeping Wind damage being based on your main hand was a myth, because it was based on whichever hand your SW first rolled on (pre v2.0, your attacks rotated between your main-hand and offhand), so it didn't matter where you had which weapon (yes, I tested this).

Now, however, your swings are based on which mouse button you're pressing. I haven't tested it, but I'm pretty sure the damage is calculated based on your overall damage (meaning, it doesn't matter where/what weapons are equipped).

Either way, the damage difference was so neglible you'd never notice it unless you were on your way to the next difficulty trying to survive or doing timed runs for experience.

Lightning was the primary damage to focus on pre 2.0, but now, fire, holy, and physical are very viable as well with the chances for those stat bonuses to roll on several armor pieces, and options for different punches and abilities to focus on certain damage types.

Try different things and see what you like. Your build will likely need to compliment your gear. I've tried everything, and I always come back to focusing on having APS as high as it can possibly go, and spending a lot of spirit quickly. It's just more fun to me when you can spam abilities rather than sitting there waiting for spirit to hit your next ability and rely on your basic punches more.

I agree though. I've played every class and the Monk is the only class I really, really enjoy. ^^
 
Oct 20, 2005
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Just preordered RoS via battle.net. Do I have to reinstall everything or will eveything unlock by itself on the 25th?

If it's anything like WoW, you should already have the content installed on your HDD. And then once the 25th rolls around, Blizzard will "open" the new areas for anyone who has a valid RoS purchase.

I could be wrong though.
 

ChairShot

Senior member
May 6, 2003
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I'll write the blizzard team and see what they have to say.

Their email gives me a link to download the install app but obvioulsy, the game is already installed and up to date...
 

darkewaffle

Diamond Member
Oct 7, 2005
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Provided you actually have D3 installed then the RoS content will be automatically downloaded (or it may have already done so) and enabled whenever the official "live" date is. Probably midnight on the 25th or something.
 

Rhezuss

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2006
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I'm on key farming mode right now to craft the 2 other Infernal Machine. I crafted one yesterday and wanted to use it but many said to wait until I have the 3 machines to use them all back to back.

I'm up to 2 Keys of Destruction and 1 Key of Terror. Need 3 more keys and i'm set.

After that, i'll do Act V and then probably reset the quests on my Barb and start over.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Only have the wiz at 60, been getting the other classes leveled up over the last couple of days. Way back when I first played him, found the barbarian about the easiest. Can't say how many times I died last night, but with only my monk to play post patch barby now the most difficult to play. Guessing it's way more gear dependent than the others.
 

Rhezuss

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2006
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Gotta read how to get the portal... with no NV required... has it changed much?

There's one Keywarden in each act:

Act I - Field of Misery
Act II - Dahlgur Oasis
Act III - Stonefort
Avt IV - Silver Spire Level 1

I got the plans from the Act IV warden which also dropped a Key of Terror

At Torment 1 each warden have 25% chance to drop a key. You need 3 keys and the Plans to craft the machine and you need 3 machines in order to get the 3 components for the Hellfire Ring. No more need for NV, nothing is required except for some farming and time.

When you have your machines, by the end of Act I just bash the door behind the Healer in New Tristram, it'll open the room where you can open your portals.
 

Cappuccino

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2013
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so I think i'll stick with this on my barb

Strength > Vitality > Critical Damage > Critical Chance > Attack Speed - Always gem emerald in weapon and ruby for everything else


I wish they'd bring back the gold AH, gold is so useless now.
Gold is not useless at all! You will need it in RoS.
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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I'm on key farming mode right now to craft the 2 other Infernal Machine. I crafted one yesterday and wanted to use it but many said to wait until I have the 3 machines to use them all back to back.

I'm up to 2 Keys of Destruction and 1 Key of Terror. Need 3 more keys and i'm set.

After that, i'll do Act V and then probably reset the quests on my Barb and start over.

You're better off finding others with machines. If 3 people have 3x machines then you can do 9 runs total, increasing your odds for parts. I have a few machines still but my toons are pretty squishy after I sold all my good items.
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Here is what I found on the forums about the keys

) You don't need to do anything special just kill the KWs
2) Keys only drop on Torment 1 and higher
3) Key drop rates from the Beta / PTR were as follows (presumably the same now on live)

Torment I: 25%
Torment II: 28%
Torment III: 33%
Torment IV: 38%
Torment V: 43%
Torment VI: 50%

4) Legacy keys can only be used to make the lvl 60 version of the hellfire ring....different keys drop at level 70 and they can't be crossed
 
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