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desura

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So why did Blizz remove the auction house?

While I definitely think it was a horrible idea to have it ready at launch, having a real money auction house isn't the worst thing in the world. Though they should have saved it for a later patch or expansion.

What are they going to do in its absence? Nothing?
 

Aristotelian

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So why did Blizz remove the auction house?

While I definitely think it was a horrible idea to have it ready at launch, having a real money auction house isn't the worst thing in the world. Though they should have saved it for a later patch or expansion.

What are they going to do in its absence? Nothing?

They have already done something to replace the auction house - they fixed drop rates. Speaking as a semi-casual player (I play less than 10 hours a week), I already have one of the wizard set items (the pants from the set that has the +500 int two piece bonus), a thundergod belt, a stormcrow helm etc. People don't need to buy items using real money any more.

Perhaps one exception is gold, because with all of the gem combining/replacing I am doing my gold seems to be running out rather quickly, but that should calm down after my gear becomes more permanent.
 

lupi

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They made legendary and set items BOP/BOA, so couldn't exist on the AH anyway.


Went for my first T1 bounty clear. Dd act 1 and was fairly non-eventful till the end when I had to kill the butcher. Got just a wee bit difficult when the entire floor was on fire at the same time.
 

CU

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How does the Add x% to elemental damage like on a Triumvirate work in ROS? Does it still only count black damage on a weapon? Does it show the correct dps in game?
 

Super56K

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Just about fell out of my chair last night. I had a little over 300 blood shards and decided to spend them before closing out for the night. I gambled three helms and one was a nice Leoric’s. Then I gambled three sources and TWO of them were Triumvirates. So that was six gambles (just 30 shards) for three legendaries. Both Triumvirates were downgrades, but that’s two more forgotten souls to use at the Mystic.

I’m really liking the rifts overall and at T1 in a four person group you net around 50-60 shards sometimes. The one issue with rifts though is occasionally you end up in one with barely any elite packs and low mob density. One example last night was a three level rift that took fifteen minutes because we reached the end and then had to backtrack up a level and fan out searching to complete the last 2% to spawn the guardian. There was only one elite pack in that entire run. The rift immediately after had the guardian spawned in five minutes because there were elites and dense mobs one after another.
 
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darkewaffle

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I definitely wouldn't say the drop rates replace the AH lol, finding the "right" items is still going to be a pretty significant timesink. The mystic helps immensely but can only do so much and re-rolling legendaries (and especially jewelry) gets cost/material prohibitive pretty quickly. I'm enjoying playing, but at the same time I'm definitely not holding my breath for the items I actually want to find.
 

Stuka87

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Good god, I despise Bind on Pickup. It is the worst thing in RPG games...the worst.

Well, its not truly bind on pickup. If you are playing in a game with friends, and you find an item, you have several hours (game play time, not real time) to give it to them if you want. After this time, it will bind.

And the reason for this is a very good one. In Diablo II 3rd party item sellers were a major issue. People would farm, and then sell things through sometimes sketchy sites. Having the items bind locks out these people and makes the game more about playing than buying. Which is the same reason they got rid of the auction house.
 

darkewaffle

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How does the Add x% to elemental damage like on a Triumvirate work in ROS? Does it still only count black damage on a weapon? Does it show the correct dps in game?

It's increases damage of skills with that elemental affinity. I've only seen "X skills deal Y% more damage" as a property so far, I'm not sure if "Adds Y% to X damage" still exists or how legacy items with it would work now.
 

Anubis

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How does the Add x% to elemental damage like on a Triumvirate work in ROS? Does it still only count black damage on a weapon? Does it show the correct dps in game?

no idea but im still using a lvl60 5% one on my wiz as everything else ive gotten has been a downgrade

Im running Frozen Orb + Blizz spec, i think im running close to +45% on arcane ob damage and over +30% to blizzard with +25 to general cold spells not counting cold blodded
 

CU

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It's increases damage of skills with that elemental affinity. I've only seen "X skills deal Y% more damage" as a property so far, I'm not sure if "Adds Y% to X damage" still exists or how legacy items with it would work now.

Yeah my Triumvirate is a legacy item. It didn't realize they removed the "Adds Y% to X damage" and replaced it with something else.
 

CU

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no idea but im still using a lvl60 5% one on my wiz as everything else ive gotten has been a downgrade

Im running Frozen Orb + Blizz spec, i think im running close to +45% on arcane ob damage and over +30% to blizzard with +25 to general cold spells not counting cold blodded

Yeah, everything I have found has been a down grade also. I was running Frozen Orb + Blizz, but recently switched to Ray of Frost (black ice rune) + Black Hole (cold rune) after finding some items with + ray of frost and black hole damage. I use black hole then hit with ray of frost to hit them all at once and black ice rune causes pretty good damage after I kill one. Not sure if mult. black ice stacks in the same place, but once one mob pops they all go pretty fast.
 

smackababy

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Any wizzy found a thunderfury yet? I want one so bad -_-

I know a few monks that have them. One is running like 800k dps with 65% or so increased lightning damage. He just dominates everything. =(



I found 3 or 4 legendary cloaks last night. Ugh... Why can't I just find a Kindershot? That would complete my life.
 

trmiv

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Rng hated me last night. Played for 3 hours doing random stuff, cleared bounties in 3 acts, opened 3 caches and bought multiple mystery items with shards. All that and not a single legendary drop.
 

Majes

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They have already done something to replace the auction house - they fixed drop rates. Speaking as a semi-casual player (I play less than 10 hours a week), I already have one of the wizard set items (the pants from the set that has the +500 int two piece bonus), a thundergod belt, a stormcrow helm etc. People don't need to buy items using real money any more.

Perhaps one exception is gold, because with all of the gem combining/replacing I am doing my gold seems to be running out rather quickly, but that should calm down after my gear becomes more permanent.

That's funny... I have pretty much exactly the same drop rate as I did before loot 2.0 on my MF character...
So for people who were MFing they removed the AH with no increased drop rate...
Just so wrong...
 

Super56K

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That's funny... I have pretty much exactly the same drop rate as I did before loot 2.0 on my MF character...
So for people who were MFing they removed the AH with no increased drop rate...
Just so wrong...

If you're not exaggerating by a mile then you're the unluckiest player in D3. Smart rolls and significantly increased legendary drops upgraded about every slot on my level 60 monk (after 2.0 released) within a couple hours. Even when the auction house was still up I didn't need to scour it for anything as upgrades were consistently dropping. It changed everything because for the first time since D3's release I felt like I was rewarded for actually killing monsters beyond reaching max level.
 
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Majes

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If you're not exaggerating by a mile then you're the unluckiest player in D3. Smart rolls and significantly increased legendary drops upgraded about every slot on my level 60 monk (after 2.0 released) within a couple hours. Even when the auction house was still up I didn't need to scour it for anything as upgrades were consistently dropping. It changed everything because for the first time since D3's release I felt like I was rewarded for actually killing monsters beyond reaching max level.

Im currently dropping a legendary every 1-2 hours in RoS.
I was dropping a legendary every 1-2 hours right before 2.0 released.
Smart rolls have nothing to do with the legendary drop rate, and of course you upgraded your gear. They raised the numbers.
What they didn't do is change the legendary drop rate. I've even had a 6 hour stretch with no leg drop.
 

digiram

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They need to increase drops on elites/champs, and lower chest a little or leave it alone. I can run through t6 chest runs, and end up with more legs per hour than killing a ton of elites in T1 in the same length. That's dumb. Also, need more forgotten soul drops from champs and elites. Maybe 20% rate, I wanna craft more but that's limiting me.
 

Super56K

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Im currently dropping a legendary every 1-2 hours in RoS.
I was dropping a legendary every 1-2 hours right before 2.0 released.
Smart rolls have nothing to do with the legendary drop rate, and of course you upgraded your gear. They raised the numbers.
What they didn't do is change the legendary drop rate. I've even had a 6 hour stretch with no leg drop.

I never said smart rolls increased legendary drop rates. I'm saying that smart rolls made drops significantly better. On my level 60 monk, for all the hours put into that on vanilla D3 long before the 2.0 loot patch, I don't recall ever finding a legendary. Maybe 1 or 2 that were garbage while leveling. Worse, I only ever found a couple rare items that had great rolls for my class. It was terrible and sucked all the fun out of the game. Anyone who wanted decent gear for their class was funneled straight into the auction house. It didn't make much sense to play the game itself so I stopped entirely.

edit - You might be mixed up playing D3 post 2.0, but thinking that RoS was when 2.0 loot started?
 
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smackababy

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If you're not exaggerating by a mile then you're the unluckiest player in D3. Smart rolls and significantly increased legendary drops upgraded about every slot on my level 60 monk (after 2.0 released) within a couple hours. Even when the auction house was still up I didn't need to scour it for anything as upgrades were consistently dropping. It changed everything because for the first time since D3's release I felt like I was rewarded for actually killing monsters beyond reaching max level.

Pre 2.0, I was getting far more legendary drops than I am now. I was getting 2-3 legeendaries per run before on the Barb, granted I was running MP10 with high Paragon levels. A run took like 20 minutes.

Now, I am lucky to get 3-4 a night in 4 hours.

And smart loot isn't so smart. I had great gear pre 2.0 and have found upgrades only for things that are eHP slots or need a single "random" roll. Shoulders, bracers, and boot basically. I did get lucky and found a quadfecta ring, but it doesn't have main stat (because it can't...).
 

Rhezuss

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I'll probably hit 70 tonight and surely will finish Act V. Adventure Mode is calling me so bad...I can't wait to give this a try. Looks like lots of you are having fun with this mode.

I'm still shitty stat and gear wise on my Barb but he's starting to feel more powerful with every session. Here's my profile:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/GomJabbar-1899/hero/29836285

Anything you think I should replace/modify except farming and getting to 70?
 

Stuka87

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Im currently dropping a legendary every 1-2 hours in RoS.
I was dropping a legendary every 1-2 hours right before 2.0 released.
Smart rolls have nothing to do with the legendary drop rate, and of course you upgraded your gear. They raised the numbers.
What they didn't do is change the legendary drop rate. I've even had a 6 hour stretch with no leg drop.

They DID change the legendary drop rate. I was lucky if I found 1-2 legendary items a week (Playing 2 hours a day typically). I find one every 1-2 hours now, sometimes two in a single hour.

Sure if you had a ton of MF gear it would have helped you a lot. but MF was also changed in 2.0.1, and if you notice, you don't find gear with MF on it anymore.

The point is you no longer need MF gear in order to find good gear. You can just play with the gear that gives the best DPS/Toughness for however you play. This is overall a very good thing for the vast majority of players.
 

Stuka87

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I'll probably hit 70 tonight and surely will finish Act V. Adventure Mode is calling me so bad...I can't wait to give this a try. Looks like lots of you are having fun with this mode.

I'm still shitty stat and gear wise on my Barb but he's starting to feel more powerful with every session. Here's my profile:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/GomJabbar-1899/hero/29836285

Anything you think I should replace/modify except farming and getting to 70?

Why are you using a 1H weapon with no shield? A shield can greatly increase your toughness and DPS. Otherwise a lot of your gear just needs to be upgraded, weapon is decent. Just play and upgrade as you find things.
 
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