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sweenish

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Interesting.

Comments on the video indicate there may not be much to the level outside of novelty, but at least it's something new.
 

pandemonium

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The bell damage alone doesn't really do much. That swk clone + bell is what does the trick. If you play the build with only the torch equiped, you want to max the bell damage so you cube the kyro's blade. The problem is you get max 3 stacks of sw. You're not dependent on SW to do the damage, you need it to proc the clones. Ok, so 3 stacks is fine, but you have to play at range now. Anytime you lose the 3 stacks you gotta spend spirits to re-up your sw. Trust me, your bells do barely any damage at all when SW is gone. With the vw fist on, you have 10 stacks and chances of you running out of SW, is extremely low. You have to put your self in position to out of stacks in order to lose it pretty much. In the other case, if you're using the staff and run into those mobs that leap at you.. you're going to spending lots of time and spirits resetting vw.

Anyhow, swk wol is only really good at fast rift or fast lower gr (60 and under), but it's have to use and have though. It's no where near as good as Inna's EP or generator builds for higher GR pushing.

I'm guessing you haven't played with me. I've played the monk a little bit. I started out the season with SWK. LoN's damage is much higher.

I'm pushing GR74 with my LoN WoL monk. Disclaimer: I know perfectly well it's not as powerful as Inna EP, but I really hate that playstyle and really enjoy ranged WoL. Also, I prefer to play non-meta builds and do what I want.
 
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digiram

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I'm guessing you haven't played with me. I've played the monk a little bit. I started out the season with SWK. LoN's damage is much higher.

I'm pushing GR74 with my LoN WoL monk. Disclaimer: I know perfectly well it's not as powerful as Inna EP, but I really hate that playstyle and really enjoy ranged WoL. Also, I prefer to play non-meta builds and do what I want.

Oh nice..

Monk is actually the last character I made this season. Will check out your profile when I'm out from work.

Inna's is cool, but it plays just like Uilianna.

My best character this season is my LON WD actually. Just got a trifecta ancient tnt last night, and I'm starting to augment a few items. Gonna see if I can do GR 75 with her soon.
 

lupi

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Was doing a little reading to see what sets are given out to chars in case I start another. Seems the free set is a one time deal.

Good for me to know, and a lot of tears i've seen from people that did not realize that until too late.
 

thujone

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Was doing a little reading to see what sets are given out to chars in case I start another. Seems the free set is a one time deal.

Good for me to know, and a lot of tears i've seen from people that did not realize that until too late.

wait... so only your first character of the season gets the free set?
 

pandemonium

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Haedrig's gift is determined by the class that opens it. You could save it for whatever class you want to.
 

PClark99

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Gearing an alt is easy plenty of us are more than willing to power level u and throw some gear your way.
 

lupi

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Went and got an ease to 25 last night then transferred my wizard over to see what things were like. With a 70 one hander and hellfire amulet % ring (amulet rolled evocate so actually useful than just stats), I did a full bounty. After first mission I dropped out of game to craft the xp gem as I didn't before hand.

Pretty much one shot everything until about level 50. I did have 2 short boss kill bounties so not a lot of mobs needed to be killed on average. After first two I was at 28 and finished just over 50 (again, no cache quest XP bonus to add).

Did minimal skill selection and didn't add paragon till I ported back in before starting second one. Used missile until picking skills after second and then used frost for final three. Funny thing was I never used mana, assuming regen on l70 gear at lower levels massively skews the normal math curve for expenditure.

Assuming another full run would probably get me to about 60 and things would slow down after that.

Was quite impressive to see how fast you can level solo when you have a supporting max level char.
 

lupi

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Read about the wizard nerfs incoming. Kinda torn on that. On one hand, it's something limited to groups able to effectively coordinate and the only real gain is it allows a couple extra GR levels than the gear would otherwise (admittedly, at that point it becomes somewhat a self fulfilling event as those higher levels give higher chances for better gear etc...).


Other than my previous discussed season changes i'd rather have them look at adjusting damage power of characters. They've now got toughness adjusted for most classes to a much better place than during the early years of the good, but it isn't quite exhilarating went you can stand and take the incoming damage but feel like you're swinging a wet noodle between skill cooldowns. Maybe something for them to looks at on the legendary gem review.
 

digiram

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Read about the wizard nerfs incoming. Kinda torn on that. On one hand, it's something limited to groups able to effectively coordinate and the only real gain is it allows a couple extra GR levels than the gear would otherwise (admittedly, at that point it becomes somewhat a self fulfilling event as those higher levels give higher chances for better gear etc...).


Other than my previous discussed season changes i'd rather have them look at adjusting damage power of characters. They've now got toughness adjusted for most classes to a much better place than during the early years of the good, but it isn't quite exhilarating went you can stand and take the incoming damage but feel like you're swinging a wet noodle between skill cooldowns. Maybe something for them to looks at on the legendary gem review.

What are they nerfing? ET? That would suck
 

sweenish

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ET is the new SC, it was going to happen.

But the power creep is up to where I don't feel like I need to follow the meta as closely anymore.

60+ solo is good enough for me.
 

*kjm

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If anyone feels like helping in seasons I have lvl 35,36 and 40 gems I need to get to 45 tonight
 

*kjm

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If anyone feels like helping in seasons I have lvl 35,36 and 40 gems I need to get to 45 tonight

Thanks for the run tonight guys have all done but
"6.Easy: Complete one season Conquest this season"
 

sweenish

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4 of 6 sets completed a 55 solo.

If I get some key extra items, I could try Nat's and Shadow and just finish that conquest. I have 6 pieces of Nat's, and 5 of Shadow. Was able to complete GR 55 with 5 UE pieces, a lvl. 59 bracer, and a couple of my sader's level 61 gems.

I really don't like the Nat's playstyle though. If I get one more piece of Marauders, I'd much rather do that. I have the Manticore and rucksack, but I only have 4 set pieces.

If I actually finish a third conquest, I will not have any reason to not just finish the journey. Hardest part will be leveling gems, but that's not even so bad. 2 are at 61, and my sader can consistently clear ~68.
 

sweenish

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5 of 6 sets.

I think if I push, I can run the Shadow set at 55. I just need to run a few regular rifts and upgrade me a dagger. All I'm really missing is a weapon. I don't think I have the Chain of Shadows belt, but I haven't had the right belt for any of the other DH sets. Also, my Wraps of Clarity aren't even lvl. 70. They're not even 60+.

Power creep is insane on this patch, and if it helps me finish the journey that much sooner, I'm personally for it.

Then it's just a matter of upgrading gems and leveling a HC toon. Both easy enough.

EDIT: Shadow set suuuuuuuuucks. I'll probably have to deal with Nat's playstyle, just for one grift.
 
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Dice144

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I am currently pushing lvl 62 greater rifts on my DH. Trying to upgrade my weapon, currently using a so-so rolled bow.
 

Dice144

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5 of 6 sets.


EDIT: Shadow set suuuuuuuuucks. I'll probably have to deal with Nat's playstyle, just for one grift.

I actually prefered the Shadow set over Nat's for GR pushing. The 40,000 just melts bosses. Warp to next with tumble, spank, and warp again.
Y. Bow and Unhallowed set is my favorite.
 

sweenish

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I don't need to push, I need to finish a 55.

UE and M6 were both able to do it with ease while missing one set piece (forcing RoRG in cube), without the appropriate belts, with a lvl 59 wraps of clarity. I at least had the right weapon and quiver for each of those. Maybe Shadow is better if I'm properly geared, but I wasn't going to finish that 55, and it wasn't even a terrible grift.

I actually have the belt for nat's, and 6 pieces. I'll just get the channeling shoulders re-rolled, and be done with that conquest.

EDIT: I should add that this conquest would be done right now if Roland's wasn't garbage. Probably do-able if I had a Denial, but it seems like it'd still be a struggle.
 
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lupi

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For reference got my char to 70 after 2 bounty cache cycles and then tagging along in two T6 rifts.

Not getting the free set though has me not feeling the desire to continue marching on.
 
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