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Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Found a perfect rare amulet today for a wizard, can't wait to bank on that. Ton of Int, nice chunk of Vit, dmg to monsters that hit, and a socket. Oh yes, I will make bank with this

Why would +damage to attackers be good for an int-based item? I would assume that Witch Doctors and Wizards would want to avoid being hit. Unless the +damage applies to the Witch Doctor's summons, which might make it okay.

Even as a melee character, I don't care about +damage to attackers much. Most mobs that hit me fast tend to have such low HP that I take them out with incidental (AoE) damage. The larger mobs tend to hit me for much more damage in less attacks. Not to mention that the most damage that I take is from elemental ranged or AoE attacks.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Inferno should be for the few who metagame enough to beat it. Nerfing that would destroy the spirit completely.
 

Gheris

Senior member
Oct 24, 2005
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Wow so many people so far into the game and I still cannot stick with one class. Anyone else having the same problem?
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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776
126
Haven't bought diablo 3 yet. Do these big games still go on sale for like $35 at brick and mortar retailers after the first 2 or 3 weeks of release? Or is this wishful thinking?
 

Yreka

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2005
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Finished on Normal Last night - 3-something DH. I really enjoyed the game/story line. Diablo 1 was my first co-op online experience, so I hold a special regard for this series. I even felt a bit of anxiety
when your merc gets caged & the run up the long hallway to Diablo
. Haven't been immersed in story/lore of a game in awhile.

I haven't even looked at the AH yet, cant wait to check that out when I get home.

If anyone wants to run NM+, hit me up Yreka#1211.

Im not in a terrible hurry when I play.. I don't dawdle around, but like to explore and make sure to clear all the rares/instances in a map. If your play-style is more speed through, boss runs we probably wont be a match
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
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madgenius.com
Wow so many people so far into the game and I still cannot stick with one class. Anyone else having the same problem?

yes, I seem to be leveling my wizard, barb, and demon hunter equally, haha.

Haven't bought diablo 3 yet. Do these big games still go on sale for like $35 at brick and mortar retailers after the first 2 or 3 weeks of release? Or is this wishful thinking?

generally, I would say not in 2-3 weeks after release, no.
 

Super56K

Golden Member
Feb 27, 2004
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Wow so many people so far into the game and I still cannot stick with one class. Anyone else having the same problem?

I'm sticking with one character. The normal play through took a while so I decided to avoid an army of level ~30 characters and focus on leveling my monk through the end of hell before trying another out.
 

tedrodai

Golden Member
Jan 18, 2006
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1
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Haven't bought diablo 3 yet. Do these big games still go on sale for like $35 at brick and mortar retailers after the first 2 or 3 weeks of release? Or is this wishful thinking?

Depends how well it sells initially. If sales are lackluster, they will drop in a few months (or even weeks). But it's wishful thinking for this game. I'm waiting for a big price drop for Skyrim, myself, and it's still $60 everywhere.
 

Keeper

Senior member
Mar 9, 2005
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Wow so many people so far into the game and I still cannot stick with one class. Anyone else having the same problem?


ME... I just resolved to finish NORMAL with my Demon Hunter.
I know chapter one like the back of my hand. My son told me this past weekend.... Umm, Dad, you dont unlock other levels till you beat the one before it.

CRUD................................................
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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13
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Wow so many people so far into the game and I still cannot stick with one class. Anyone else having the same problem?

I'm still in Act 1 with my Wizard after a full week,like exploring every cave and area,starting to feel a bit underpowered due to having to keep my distance from some mobs,I won't change because want to see how Wizard is right through until the end,probably replay second run through with either Monk or DH.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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Having frequented the Blizzard forums and read about all the issues, imbalances, exploits, hacks, etc and no mention in sight about patching them. I'm starting to come to the realization that Blizzard doesn't care about fixing the game. This isn't WoW with a monthly subscription. You've already paid for the game. Frustrating you to the point of quitting only reduces their costs of keeping the game running.

It won't be until the casual gamer and the pissed off players are weeded out... when the population stabilizes is when they'll begin to look at the game and fixing it for those who remain. Then it may be fun again....

Just in time to roll out the expansion to fool the suckers back in. Then we all do the same dance. It's actually a pretty clever business model if you think about it.
 
Nov 3, 2004
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Haven't bought diablo 3 yet. Do these big games still go on sale for like $35 at brick and mortar retailers after the first 2 or 3 weeks of release? Or is this wishful thinking?

High profile games take awhile to drop in price. I'd just buy it now while it's still early so you can discover the game with everyone else. It's one thing to wait a bit if discounts on the horizon, but if not, 20 bucks or so really isn't that big a deal, right?
 

Kalmah

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2003
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My witch doctor is getting tore up in nightmare. Was doing great and now hit a brick wall. I'm certain that I've tried every possible combination of skills and have pretty much all int+ gear. (with much vit+) Every piece of gear I find is worse than what I have.

The dogs last about 15 seconds, then my gollum gets whittled down. I just cant keep enough mana to use mana-draining skills effectively. Mana leaching spiders don't help enough since they do about zero damage. The cooldown on the higher level summoning skills is too long to be very effective.

My witch doctor is level 41 by the way. I guess I'm going to set this character aside and go back to my demon hunter for a while.
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
36,190
85
91
madgenius.com
Having frequented the Blizzard forums and read about all the issues, imbalances, exploits, hacks, etc and no mention in sight about patching them. I'm starting to come to the realization that Blizzard doesn't care about fixing the game. This isn't WoW with a monthly subscription. You've already paid for the game. Frustrating you to the point of quitting only reduces their costs of keeping the game running.

It won't be until the casual gamer and the pissed off players are weeded out... when the population stabilizes is when they'll begin to look at the game and fixing it for those who remain. Then it may be fun again....

Just in time to roll out the expansion to fool the suckers back in. Then we all do the same dance. It's actually a pretty clever business model if you think about it.

What kind of hacks/exploits/imbalances are there? I try to stay off bnet forums on releases like this ...
 

thespyder

Golden Member
Aug 31, 2006
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Having frequented the Blizzard forums and read about all the issues, imbalances, exploits, hacks, etc and no mention in sight about patching them. I'm starting to come to the realization that Blizzard doesn't care about fixing the game. This isn't WoW with a monthly subscription. You've already paid for the game. Frustrating you to the point of quitting only reduces their costs of keeping the game running.

It won't be until the casual gamer and the pissed off players are weeded out... when the population stabilizes is when they'll begin to look at the game and fixing it for those who remain. Then it may be fun again....

Just in time to roll out the expansion to fool the suckers back in. Then we all do the same dance. It's actually a pretty clever business model if you think about it.

You post this as if it is some revelation and that EVERY single game developer doesn't act exactly this way. Sure, once they get their money, who cares about the consumer? Until it is expansion time and they want your money again. This attitude isn't right by any means, but it is far from unheard of. In fact, it is more the norm than anything else. And not just in the Video Game industry.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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What kind of hacks/exploits/imbalances are there? I try to stay off bnet forums on releases like this ...


Apparently, there's an easy exploit to farm rare/legendary items easily in inferno mode. Some say it's an exploit, others say it's just a clever way to avoid the boring parts of dungeon crawling. In any case, I'm not 60, and I'm not in inferno mode so it doesn't affect me but I get the feeling this will break the game. :\
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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4,446
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Having frequented the Blizzard forums and read about all the issues, imbalances, exploits, hacks, etc and no mention in sight about patching them. I'm starting to come to the realization that Blizzard doesn't care about fixing the game. This isn't WoW with a monthly subscription. You've already paid for the game. Frustrating you to the point of quitting only reduces their costs of keeping the game running.

It won't be until the casual gamer and the pissed off players are weeded out... when the population stabilizes is when they'll begin to look at the game and fixing it for those who remain. Then it may be fun again....

Just in time to roll out the expansion to fool the suckers back in. Then we all do the same dance. It's actually a pretty clever business model if you think about it.

This is not a one time purchase game nor is it a monthly subscription model, it is in essence a micro-transaction model. Blizzard expects to make continuing money of of the RMAH. That means they have to keep people playing, and using that RMAH.
RMAH patch is suppose to hit next week, I imagine there will be bug-fix patches built into that. At some point after that PVP arena will come in, and I would expect more balance and gameplay features to be added with that. They are definitely going to patch, but it will probably be on a every few months schedule.

EDIT: One thing I have to say though, for all the 'we won't release it until it is done' he have heard for the last few years (and on multiple other games throughout the years), it sure feels like D3 was released unfinished.
 
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Kalmah

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2003
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You post this as if it is some revelation and that EVERY single game developer doesn't act exactly this way. Sure, once they get their money, who cares about the consumer? Until it is expansion time and they want your money again. This attitude isn't right by any means, but it is far from unheard of. In fact, it is more the norm than anything else. And not just in the Video Game industry.


Well, Blizzard did update D2 for like 7 years or so didn't they? Major overhauls several times. They are trying to make money from the auction house so I'm sure they will do what they can to keep the replayability up... which at this point I'm concerned about since you can equip yourself at the auction house then have no reason to play the game.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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You post this as if it is some revelation and that EVERY single game developer doesn't act exactly this way. Sure, once they get their money, who cares about the consumer? Until it is expansion time and they want your money again. This attitude isn't right by any means, but it is far from unheard of. In fact, it is more the norm than anything else. And not just in the Video Game industry.


It is sort of is a revelation for me. In the realm of Blizzard games, WoW is the most reputable and for a moment, I forgot this game does not carry a subscription. So this whole time, I was thinking and expecting Blizzard to allocate the amount of resources to this game to keep it humming along like they did in WoW then it smacks me. Why would they do that, it costs money and we're not paying for it.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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This is not a one time purchase game nor is it a monthly subscription model, it is in essence a micro-transaction model. Blizzard expects to make continuing money of of the RMAH. That means they have to keep people playing, and using that RMAH. RMAH patch is suppose to hit next week, I imagine there will be bug-fix patches built into that. At some point after that PVP arena will come in, and I would expect more balance and gameplay features to be added with that. They are definitely going to patch, but it will probably be on a every few months schedule.

The RMAH and micro-transactions will work fine. Why are they pushing it out so far? Maybe to force out the weaker players, the same people who would have otherwise not utilized the RMAH anyway. Those who pay for in game items are hardcore players who will be the last to quit regardless of how bad it gets. They're invested. People like me, we're not. Once I've done all there is to do, I'll be gone. They're just trying to get me to leave sooner.

Like I said, once the population stabilizes, they'll fix it. Because they do want you to come back for the expansion but for now, the message seems to be GTFO if you don't intend to buy goods at the RMAH.
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
7,312
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Finished on Normal Last night - 3-something DH. I really enjoyed the game/story line. Diablo 1 was my first co-op online experience, so I hold a special regard for this series. I even felt a bit of anxiety
when your merc gets caged & the run up the long hallway to Diablo
. Haven't been immersed in story/lore of a game in awhile.

I haven't even looked at the AH yet, cant wait to check that out when I get home.

If anyone wants to run NM+, hit me up Yreka#1211.

Im not in a terrible hurry when I play.. I don't dawdle around, but like to explore and make sure to clear all the rares/instances in a map. If your play-style is more speed through, boss runs we probably wont be a match

just started nm as well.. pretty much my play style. uncover the map. goto next section.

ill have to hit you up.
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
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You dont have nearly enough health, and probably not enough damage resist. Just sayin

Health isn't an issue at all in inferno for Wizards. Force Armor is required, since even a lowly skeleton will deal 10-20k damage per hit. That means you generally have 3-4 hits before you die. Without Force Armor, 2 hits at most.

I suppose if I had 100k health it would make a difference, but that ain't happening right now. My resists are pretty high with 1200ish int.
 

gothamhunter

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2010
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6
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This is not a one time purchase game nor is it a monthly subscription model, it is in essence a micro-transaction model. Blizzard expects to make continuing money of of the RMAH. That means they have to keep people playing, and using that RMAH.
RMAH patch is suppose to hit next week, I imagine there will be bug-fix patches built into that. At some point after that PVP arena will come in, and I would expect more balance and gameplay features to be added with that. They are definitely going to patch, but it will probably be on a every few months schedule.

EDIT: One thing I have to say though, for all the 'we won't release it until it is done' he have heard for the last few years (and on multiple other games throughout the years), it sure feels like D3 was released unfinished.

Because....?
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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I don't think Blizzard could have been prepared for any of this. The sheer amount of fans they have meant the game was going to release borked no matter what just because there are so many players. They can't possibly track with the small base of employees they have dedicated to D3 everything that's going on in game. If they did that, it would eat up a lot of the profits.

I read an article a while back that for every dollar they made in WoW subsciption only something like 15 cent came out as profit.


Edit: I forgot to mention that the game probably killed a good deal of the actual subscriber paying base in WoW... So anything they can do to get them back to WoW from D3 is a win in their books.
 
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