**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[flexy]

yes this makes sense and i think i also understand this, right now i also tend more towards high "burst" damage eg. using orbs rather than sustained DPS. From that point of view, the DPS number would of course be right (as the name suggests)...but not necessarily meaning that each orb would hit harder. That's clear.

 

[darkxshade]

Any monks here got advice on how they survive A2 inferno?


Also do class specific items offer a bonus? I have a 899dps fist weapon that's 1.4speed... Then I switched to a similar dps spear that 1.2 but according to my stats, my attacks/second went down?

 

[slayer202]

^ I think demon hunters do the most damage anyway. Especially considering quivers always(I think) have increased attack speed while other characters don't have that option on their off hand.

 

[darkewaffle]

Found a pretty great legendary quiver yesterday in A1 inferno. They're out there, but they work more like rares and blues do now, they need a dose of luck.

Actually from what I've seen a lot of the legendary and set pieces of armor are quite good on their own and the randomization makes it so that they can be more widely incorporated into builds and can potentially turn into really amazing pieces. I think people just see legendary weapons with bad properties and figure that's all she wrote.


I don't understand all the "well it's too much like WoW" or "too dumbed down" point of view. Diablo 2, while certainly fun in it's own way, was a shallow, easy, casual, simple game that was all about monotonous lootfarming. D3 has taken the formula, polished it and modernized it and done what they could to add an endgame to it. Farming A1 Inferno is far more enjoyable to me than doing Cow, CS, or Baal runs ever were in spite of the 'gear check' nature of Inferno. Further, the AH has made it far less of a hassle to actually find the gear you want and monetize the good items you find, no longer having to rely on a forum with a small audience or trade rooms filled with spammers and people who want to trade their Ravenfrost for an SoJ.

I hope they come up with some sort of mechanic to encourage party play eventually while farming/MFing. I understand why they average out MF and I like that solution better than the alternative (super high MF 'mules' getting 'carried') but it sucks that it serves as such a dis-incentive to actually be in the same game with my friends.

 

[CraKaJaX]

Speaking of Legendary items.... one thing I -really- miss about D2 is the fact that you would see unique "Mesh Belt" and not the simplest form of the item "Belt" when it dropped. Personally I've found one legendary item and it was just "Sword" ... okay... well what the hell is it? Even when you identify it it doesn't give you the rank of the sword. Nothing big, but I always catch myself looking for that description. It's the same when you find a rare set of Epaulers (or whatever). When you identify them it only shows the unique name of them and where you can wear them (pants, wrists, etc.).

On the opposite side... one thing I don't miss is stamina...

 

[EDUSAN]

in hell mode its still a nice ride through the park? or i will already have to care about the super perfect build to be able to advance as it is in inferno mode?

im a lvl 51 Wizard with 3,3k dps (with magic weapon on) and just finished nightmare

Should i care to get resistance? i monk friend already in hell mode told me to try to get that but will it make any difference?

 

[DrunkenSano]

I like the vagueness when you find rares or legendary items, adds to the surprise. As for rank, I think they are adding item level to the description in the next patch.

 

[darkewaffle]

Speaking of Legendary items.... one thing I -really- miss about D2 is the fact that you would see unique "Mesh Belt" and not the simplest form of the item "Belt" when it dropped. Personally I've found one legendary item and it was just "Sword" ... okay... well what the hell is it? Even when you identify it it doesn't give you the rank of the sword. Nothing big, but I always catch myself looking for that description. It's the same when you find a rare set of Epaulers (or whatever). When you identify them it only shows the unique name of them and where you can wear them (pants, wrists, etc.).

On the opposite side... one thing I don't miss is stamina...

lol my friends and I wish the same thing about rares. We have no idea how to pronounce some of them and it's made them quite amusing to us, we're quite fond of Qiangs (kwangs) and Zischagges (zee-shaggys).

 

[JoPh]

well after finding out i was weak in hell diff i hit the AH up..

my monk right now has ~3900 dps i think 12-14k HP

what does everyone else look like in hell diff? i still think i am on the weaker side.

 

[vshah]

Any monks here got advice on how they survive A2 inferno?


Also do class specific items offer a bonus? I have a 899dps fist weapon that's 1.4speed... Then I switched to a similar dps spear that 1.2 but according to my stats, my attacks/second went down?

that makes sense, 1.4 attacks per second > 1.2 attacks per second.
fist weapon = 1/1.4 = 1 attack every 0.714 seconds
spear = 1/1.2 = 1 attack every 0.833 seconds

 

[Anubis]

well after finding out i was weak in hell diff i hit the AH up..

my monk right now has ~3900 dps i think 12-14k HP

what does everyone else look like in hell diff? i still think i am on the weaker side.

im lvl 56 in act 2 hell on my monk, 4.6k DPS with like 30k HP

my wiz is lvl 48 and would be in hell if it was lvl 50 has 13k HP and 3.9k DPS with magic wep

 

[PowerYoga]

in hell mode its still a nice ride through the park? or i will already have to care about the super perfect build to be able to advance as it is in inferno mode?

im a lvl 51 Wizard with 3,3k dps (with magic weapon on) and just finished nightmare

Should i care to get resistance? i monk friend already in hell mode told me to try to get that but will it make any difference?

In the same boat as you, but I have around 5k DPS and 13k hp. Lvl 53 and trudging through act 1 in hell and I've already died dozens of times to fire chains mortar molten elite something or others. Otherwise I'm killing bosses and champions fine though, wading through the level like its nothing.

One thing I DID do is switch from a frost build to an arcane build. Sustained dps just isn't working, need bursty dps. Venom hydras are a godsend though.

Monks are different from wizards, I'm not worrying about resistances just yet. At least not in act 1.

 

[onza]

WD lvl 59 - Hell Act 3/4(just starting 4) and my HP is 31k, 8k in DPS mode and 7k in survival mode.

 

[EDUSAN]

In the same boat as you, but I have around 5k DPS and 13k hp. Lvl 53 and trudging through act 1 in hell and I've already died dozens of times to fire chains mortar molten elite something or others. Otherwise I'm killing bosses and champions fine though, wading through the level like its nothing.

One thing I DID do is switch from a frost build to an arcane build. Sustained dps just isn't working, need bursty dps. Venom hydras are a godsend though.

Monks are different from wizards, I'm not worrying about resistances just yet. At least not in act 1.

Im using desintegrate but im thinking about switching to arcane orbs since i can cast 2 orbs and run and i dont need to stand still casting the lazeeeer.
and im using a 187 dps (100 intelligence) 1hand weapon with a source that i hope to change soon. 1,4 AS. My arcane power drains too fast spamming orbs though :S
is it worth it to wear shields? what about teleport/mirror images?
until now i had been using:

1: frost nova
2: energy shield with increase arcane power
3: archon
4: magic weapon
click1: desintegrate
click2: venom hydra
passives: (cant remember the names) increased arcane power, life regeneration bonus when a shield is active and glass cannon

 

[KidNiki1]

i saw a friend post this and thought it was appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEyk63UaBI4

 

[Riverhound777]

Lvl 59 Wiz just starting Act 4 Hell with around 5200 DPS and 42k HP. Looking for better weapon but going to wait till I hit lvl 60. I was getting my ass handed to me in Act 2 till I switched from 2H to 1h and shield. Dropped my DPS some, but made a world of difference. Probably will lose effectiveness in Inferno, but for now i'm doing fine in Hell. Also hoping the energy armor with the rune that caps hits at 35% life will help there.

Oh and loving spectral blade with the thrown blade rune at lvl 57 that increases its range to 20yrds. Going from electrocute with chain lightning, it's a huge difference in damage. Was using meteor with star pact for a while, but switched back to blizzard to use with Spectral blade, working well. With cold blooded passive of course.

 

[yllus]

I started out thinking that the Auction House interface was terrible (and it still leaves a lot to be desired) but if you know what you're looking for, it works remarkably well. I've been looking for monk gear that adds Dexterity, Vitality and Lightning Resistance (to be used with the monk's One With Everything passive skill. Put my buyout limit at 10,000 (I've only ever had 50,000 gold at one time) and I'm slowly building towards a non-random set of equipment.

Didn't actually play yesterday, though - but the girlfriend did. Her second character is level 33 now (her first, a Wizard, is level 45) so I'll just let her catch up and join up with her at that point.

 

[JoPh]

im lvl 56 in act 2 hell on my monk, 4.6k DPS with like 30k HP

my wiz is lvl 48 and would be in hell if it was lvl 50 has 13k HP and 3.9k DPS with magic wep

DPS is the ball park.. but my HP is a lot lower.....

 

[IEC]

well after finding out i was weak in hell diff i hit the AH up..

my monk right now has ~3900 dps i think 12-14k HP

what does everyone else look like in hell diff? i still think i am on the weaker side.

I play a DH. At the end of hell I was Lv60 and had 20k hp, 26k dps. I just unlocked inferno last night, but get wrecked due to low resists. So I'm farming hell Act I Part 9 to get enough gold/items. With those stats I wreck hell mobs in mostly 1 hit, which means farming hell is more profitable (for now).

 

[smackababy]

I play a DH. At the end of hell I was Lv60 and had 20k hp, 26k dps. I just unlocked inferno last night, but get wrecked due to low resists. So I'm farming hell Act I Part 9 to get enough gold/items. With those stats I wreck hell mobs in mostly 1 hit, which means farming hell is more profitable (for now).

I've been running Inferno with 7k DPS and like 6k HP on my DH. My magic find gear is awful, except I have 198% without valor stacks. Just kite things, they die easy. Elemental Arrow with either Tentacles or Screaming Skull destroys. Some elite mobs I have a bit of a time dealing with, however, most I can kite well enough to destroy.

You shouldn't be getting hit in Inferno.

 

[PowerYoga]

Im using desintegrate but im thinking about switching to arcane orbs since i can cast 2 orbs and run and i dont need to stand still casting the lazeeeer.
and im using a 187 dps (100 intelligence) 1hand weapon with a source that i hope to change soon. 1,4 AS. My arcane power drains too fast spamming orbs though :S
is it worth it to wear shields? what about teleport/mirror images?
until now i had been using:

1: frost nova
2: energy shield with increase arcane power
3: archon
4: magic weapon
click1: desintegrate
click2: venom hydra
passives: (cant remember the names) increased arcane power, life regeneration bonus when a shield is active and glass cannon

I gave up disintegrate a long time ago. Mobs are way too fast and arcane missile with penetrate work a whole lot better than you'd think. Plus you can shoot missiles when you're out of AP and save orbs for big masses. I do use it for certain scenarios but its very limited in use.

I'm using a 260 dps one hander + a crappy offhand that I can't find a replacement for. Stopped using shields a looong time ago as I lose too much dps with them.

1. arcane missle + penetrate
2. arcane orb + tap the source
3. mirror image + the thing that gives you 5 clones
4. diamond skin + absorption (just can't give it up!!)
5. venom hydra
6. Force weapon

passives:

glass cannon, the arcane snare thing + evocation (-15% cooldown).

edit: Forgo to mention with tap the source you can spam about 5 orbs before you run out, which is usually enough to kill most mobs in act 1.

 

[CraKaJaX]

I play a DH. At the end of hell I was Lv60 and had 20k hp, 26k dps. I just unlocked inferno last night, but get wrecked due to low resists. So I'm farming hell Act I Part 9 to get enough gold/items. With those stats I wreck hell mobs in mostly 1 hit, which means farming hell is more profitable (for now).

Do level 60 items drop in Hell when you're 60 with Valor on? Are you getting anything decent?

 

[IEC]

I've been running Inferno with 7k DPS and like 6k HP on my DH. My magic find gear is awful, except I have 198% without valor stacks. Just kite things, they die easy. Elemental Arrow with either Tentacles or Screaming Skull destroys. Some elite mobs I have a bit of a time dealing with, however, most I can kite well enough to destroy.

You shouldn't be getting hit in Inferno.

What's your skill/rune build? PM if you don't want to post. Perhaps I just got overly discouraged from getting wrecked by Arcane Fast Mortar Teleporters...

 

[exar333]

im lvl 56 in act 2 hell on my monk, 4.6k DPS with like 30k HP

my wiz is lvl 48 and would be in hell if it was lvl 50 has 13k HP and 3.9k DPS with magic wep

2.5k DPS and 25k life, just getting to Act IV today in nightmare, level 49 DH. DPS seems low compared to you guys, but it's been working well for me so far.

 

[Harabec]

I wish Act 2 was a bit more interesting. I like all other Acts (4 could use some...well more content overall).