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JoPh

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whats the quickest way to power level? I just want to power level to 30.

to me the fun with the characters start around level 30/. ive put like 35 hours into a monk and only level 54.. i want to start a WD.
 

AMDZen

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whats the quickest way to power level? I just want to power level to 30.

to me the fun with the characters start around level 30/. ive put like 35 hours into a monk and only level 54.. i want to start a WD.

Pay a Korean kid $0.15 an hour to do it for you?
 

Fallengod

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The hacking has nothing to do with getting passwords anyways. Theres some exploit people are using. Its funny people keep saying its from keyloggers and banner ads etc even though many people hacked havnt visited any websites and even if they had, what are the chances the hacker cares about diablo 3 or that it passes anti-virus protection.. Authenticator wont help, seen plenty with them get hacked too lately(and yes I mean the real authenticators).

You can tell its an exploit because the people hacked only lose the stuff from the last character played, they arnt touching the other characters nor are they changing the account passwords. If they had the account password, wouldnt you think they would hijack it, change the password and steal it all?

Jeez, just the sheer amount of hacking going on is mind boggling. I'm actually thinking of getting the iOS authenticator on my iPad since it's usually near the computer (don't want to bother with the keychain or my horribly buggy Android phone).

As the previous user said, download bluestacks, its a fairly well known program and legit android emulator. It allows you to basically test/run android apps from the PC. Thats what I use for my authenticator. It works great. Good free way to have a legit auth.
 
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PimpJuice

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From what I understand gold gain grows exponentially once you A) hit lvl 60 and B) do Inferno. The Naelphim's Blessing or whatever it is gives you 75% more gold find/magic find when stacked.

Thats correct, Nephalum Valor stacks are very rewarding. I've never had more rare and gold drops. I even got my first legendary after 60.
 

DrunkenSano

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Who are getting hacked with real authenticators? The ones claiming they had authenticators, Blizzard called them out and showed they had no authenticators, just fear mongering and trying to add to the mob chaos.

And as for hijacking it, why would they? It's a waste of time for them, they are probably running a bot script that logs in, sells, trades gold, log out. To add in character change and whatnot, it probably complicates the script. There is nothing gained from stealing an account since the account would just be banned until returned to the owner.
 

EDUSAN

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is it worth it playing hardcore as how the game it is right now?

i feel like the difference between the difficulty of the game vs the difficulty of a random boss around the level makes the possibility of dying just too high to be worth it.

Like i can be +5 levels from the part im playing, i could have the BEST items money can buy for my level and i would still have nothing to do against some of the elite/blue enemies and i would just die no matter what...
 

Kabob

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whats the quickest way to power level? I just want to power level to 30.

to me the fun with the characters start around level 30/. ive put like 35 hours into a monk and only level 54.. i want to start a WD.

My Demon Hunter is lvl 33 now and the levels have gone very fast. No power leveling, just playing through normal and nightmare (only on A2 NM right now). Once you hit lvl 40+ is when things start slowing down.
 

darkewaffle

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whats the quickest way to power level? I just want to power level to 30.

to me the fun with the characters start around level 30/. ive put like 35 hours into a monk and only level 54.. i want to start a WD.

Just playing normally if you stick a fairly high end Ruby in your hat and grab some +monster experience gear, it makes a pretty big difference imo. I started a lowbie and it feels like the levels come extremely quickly powering through Normal. Or you can do the same thing and find a spot with lots of mobs to grind I think A3 is regarded as pretty good for that sort of thing.
 

DrunkenSano

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I've only been playing hardcore and it's fun, I feel it is more challenging since you have to be much more careful and you have to take the game at a much slower pace instead of just rushing through it.

Plus, hardcore builds and equipment are probably a lot different than regular.
 

Fallengod

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Who are getting hacked with real authenticators? The ones claiming they had authenticators, Blizzard called them out and showed they had no authenticators, just fear mongering and trying to add to the mob chaos.

And as for hijacking it, why would they? It's a waste of time for them, they are probably running a bot script that logs in, sells, trades gold, log out. To add in character change and whatnot, it probably complicates the script. There is nothing gained from stealing an account since the account would just be banned until returned to the owner.

Its not like Blizzard would admit theres an issue, think about it.

And yes, go visit the bnet forums. Multiple people lately with real authenticators getting hacked. We can always go back and forth speculating about it, since we dont know, but you dont really believe all these hundreds of people a day are getting hacked from the same exact websites and same methods all without virus protection? All undetected. Nobody ever lists fishy websites they visited. Ever notice that? Dont you think people all over the web would be posting websites they recently visited speculating on which got them hacked? You see zero threads like that.
 

Patt

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"Reduced level requirement" is quite an amusing property. I found a 600DPS level 60 two hander, pretty average, but it had reduced level requirement by 10 so my friend's barbarian has been enjoying that in Hell lol.

Also got my barb through more of A2 Inferno last night; it's doable, but definitely slower and whereas I can take anything A1 can throw at me, there are finally enemies that are simply impossible for me. My gear is pretty solid but there's definitely room for a few hundred more resists and armor and a better shield, but it does have me wondering if it'll 'ever' be enough lol. And even if I get to a point of realistic survivability, I think it'll be a serious damage compromise without some absolutely ridiculous gear.

Can you provide some information on your barb build? I'm in Act I hell right now, but interested in how you're playing, and what items (or stats) you're preferring.
 

AMDZen

Lifer
Apr 15, 2004
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Who are getting hacked with real authenticators? The ones claiming they had authenticators, Blizzard called them out and showed they had no authenticators, just fear mongering and trying to add to the mob chaos.

And as for hijacking it, why would they? It's a waste of time for them, they are probably running a bot script that logs in, sells, trades gold, log out. To add in character change and whatnot, it probably complicates the script. There is nothing gained from stealing an account since the account would just be banned until returned to the owner.

You and others still don't get it.

You can see a chain of events play out. One guy gets hacked, and then a friend from his recently played list is next, then on to a guy from that persons list, and so on and so forth. Are you claiming that they magically happen to have exploited the passwords of people that just happen to be connected to the previous person they hacked?

No, because its a session hack as many have already theorized as its the only thing that makes sense.
 

Kabob

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Just playing normally if you stick a fairly high end Ruby in your hat and grab some +monster experience gear, it makes a pretty big difference imo. I started a lowbie and it feels like the levels come extremely quickly powering through Normal. Or you can do the same thing and find a spot with lots of mobs to grind I think A3 is regarded as pretty good for that sort of thing.

This too makes a big difference. I've had at least a Square ruby in the helm for my Wiz and Barb, 17%+ exp per kill adds up quickly.
 

AMDZen

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Its not like Blizzard would admit theres an issue, think about it.

And yes, go visit the bnet forums. Multiple people lately with real authenticators getting hacked. We can always go back and forth speculating about it, since we dont know, but you dont really believe all these hundreds of people a day are getting hacked from the same exact websites and same methods all without virus protection? All undetected. Nobody ever lists fishy websites they visited. Ever notice that? Dont you think people all over the web would be posting websites they recently visited speculating on which got them hacked? You see zero threads like that.

Actually there are posts like that

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5596251435

Which actually just lend more credence to the session hack theory. The adware that this person had and then other research done on the only two sites this guy visited don't lend themselves to the hack.

People are just naive and going to take the road that it is the victims fault in every case. Which is stupid really, its wishful thinking. Until it happens to them of course.
 

DrunkenSano

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Its not like Blizzard would admit theres an issue, think about it.

And yes, go visit the bnet forums. Multiple people lately with real authenticators getting hacked. We can always go back and forth speculating about it, since we dont know, but you dont really believe all these hundreds of people a day are getting hacked from the same exact websites and same methods all without virus protection? All undetected. Nobody ever lists fishy websites they visited. Ever notice that? Dont you think people all over the web would be posting websites they recently visited speculating on which got them hacked? You see zero threads like that.

The reason I am very skeptical because this also happened back in WoW when I use to play, this is new to new Blizzard customers, not to many of the old Wow players. My past guild had some members with their accounts compromised and they were tech savvy as well. Their virus scanners picked up nothing, nor malware, etc. There were many people being hacked in WoW.

So until there is more proof of it being a session hack, not just coincidental factors and whatnot, like an actual youtube vid of someone doing it that isn't edited, then I will remain skeptical.


Actually there are posts like that

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5596251435

Which actually just lend more credence to the session hack theory. The adware that this person had and then other research done on the only two sites this guy visited don't lend themselves to the hack.

People are just naive and going to take the road that it is the victims fault in every case. Which is stupid really, its wishful thinking. Until it happens to them of course.

It is as naive as people thinking they are 100% safe because they run a virus protection software, adware, and don't visit blatantly malicious sites.
 

AMDZen

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The reason I am very skeptical because this also happened back in WoW when I use to play, this is new to new Blizzard customers, not to many of the old Wow players. My past guild had some members with their accounts compromised and they were tech savvy as well. Their virus scanners picked up nothing, nor malware, etc. There were many people being hacked in WoW.

So until there is more proof of it being a session hack, not just coincidental factors and whatnot, like an actual youtube vid of someone doing it that isn't edited, then I will remain skeptical.

Exactly, which makes it even more funny that you claim to be naive. What you just said lends itself more to an exploit being Blizzards fault. Just like in WoW, people were getting hacked without any malicious software getting their passwords. Until it was eventually fixed (without them even acknowledging there was ever an issue in the first place, much less a fix). Now they need to do the same with D3
 

AMDZen

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It is as naive as people thinking they are 100% safe because they run a virus protection software, adware, and don't visit blatantly malicious sites.

We'll just agree to disagree, clearly Blizz can do no wrong in your eyes and you can just go on living in your infinite ignorance.

People who have done analysis on this and think logically, and also have a background in network security and the like already know and understand what's going on here.
 

PowerYoga

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I don't get why people keep denying the possibility of this happening. What do you lose if blizzard really did fuck up besides a few notches off your high horse?
 

DrunkenSano

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I don't lose or gain anything whether it is a loophole on Blizzard's end or some other factor. It's just boring and annoying when people want to discuss the game itself or gameplay and instead, there is a massive pile-on against Blizzard.

If people want to complain about Blizzard and lament about how shoddy their security system is, fine, do it in another thread. Since the subject isn't Diablo 3, it's Blizzard and battle.net.
 

EDUSAN

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i agree with drunkensano, i dont really care if it is the user faults or blizzard fault...

so can we just stop talking about this and talk about the game and stuff?
 

Fallengod

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Thats fair enough and youre right, speculating over and over again doesnt really change anything.

However you should also realize, with the plethora of people with losing their accounts, wanting to discuss the GAME itself would be difficult for those individuals who cant play the game anymore? Just saying.


On another note, what do good DH's use, crossbows, bows, 2h or 1h? I dont know what to aim for.
 

darkewaffle

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But you dont really believe all these hundreds of people a day are getting hacked from the same exact websites and same methods all without virus protection?

Yes, I absolutely do.

People, in general, don't know a single thing about computers. About how they work, about how to use them, about what they do, about how to secure them, about discerning good windows from bad windows, any of it [yes, even on this forum and this website]. I deal with them every day, people in my department are on the phone with people who can't tell you what version of Windows they have, what browser they use, they don't know what their address bar is, they don't know the difference between a shortcut and a program, and they keep their passwords taped to their monitors. I don't doubt the fact their accounts are being compromised, what I doubt that any of them would be qualified to critically analyze how or why.

Further, you're completely ignoring the human condition. If you get hacked and you decide to post about it, are you going to really own up to all the shady things most people do with their computer? Are you really going to give people any reason to pass the buck back to you, instead of Blizzard? Are you really going to say anything that might place blame on yourself? No, probably not. Because that's not why people post, they post because they want sympathy and they want to feel "right" and they don't want to be at fault because they want someone to be angry with, and it's much easier to be angry at Blizzard than yourself.
 

KidNiki1

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Thats fair enough and youre right, speculating over and over again doesnt really change anything.

However you should also realize, with the plethora of people with losing their accounts, wanting to discuss the GAME itself would be difficult for those individuals who cant play the game anymore? Just saying.


but it's the same group of people coming in here every time posting multiple posts about how blizz is the anti-christ, how blizz fails etc etc.

we get it. the security is not up to everyone's standards. people are getting hacked. it sucks. if i ever get hacked, it will suck. i will be annoyed.

what i won't do is go into this thread, and the other two 'blizz sucks' threads, and any other thread that has anything vaguely to do with blizzard or D3, and bitch and moan about how bad blizz is and how much they suck and wtf i want my money back, i want someone to acknowledge my trauma, i need JUSTICE!!!!!one1one!!! and then continually post the same thing, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

i'll go play other games. /shrug


also, darkwaffle.....:wub::wub:
 

thespyder

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In one of the recent patches, I read that now, by default, everyone is going to sign into the general chat channel. Anyone know how to shut that off?

I have been playing single player up to this point and am happy to continue to do so. I don't want or need someone else 'Chatting' at me, particularly since I don't know them. And last night, the person chatting in my window was fairly immature and not worth reading, although he/she obviously thought what they had to say was worth broadcasting.
 

Fallengod

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Yes, I absolutely do.

People, in general, don't know a single thing about computers. About how they work, about how to use them, about what they do, about how to secure them, about discerning good windows from bad windows, any of it [yes, even on this forum and this website]. I deal with them every day, people in my department are on the phone with people who can't tell you what version of Windows they have, what browser they use, they don't know what their address bar is, they don't know the difference between a shortcut and a program, and they keep their passwords taped to their monitors. I don't doubt the fact their accounts are being compromised, what I doubt that any of them would be qualified to critically analyze how or why.

Further, you're completely ignoring the human condition. If you get hacked and you decide to post about it, are you going to really own up to all the shady things most people do with their computer? Are you really going to give people any reason to pass the buck back to you, instead of Blizzard? Are you really going to say anything that might place blame on yourself? No, probably not. Because that's not why people post, they post because they want sympathy and they want to feel "right" and they don't want to be at fault because they want someone to be angry with, and it's much easier to be angry at Blizzard than yourself.


Please note, I never said I was hacked, nor do I know anyone personally that has been hacked. I can tell you this, I never visit any sites besides the ones ive been visiting for 10 years. I run an authenticator, run kaspersky, firewall, and have a very long password which is not used on any other sites. If I ever do get hacked, this will confirm my suspicions that it has nothing to do with getting peoples passwords.

I understand and thats true for the most part, except, not in this case. Your opinions are just that, opinions. That does not make what youre saying true. You are making many assumptions and speculating as well. You are just generalizing without looking at the issues in this particular case.

Scroll back and look at the facts of how and what is being done to peoples accounts when they are hacked. Evidence supports the idea of this not being by traditional means. Anyways, might as well stop arguing about it, it doesnt fix anything and could go on forever.
 
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