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Yreka

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So, are the drops in the cartoon land secret level worth farming to use in Hell difficulty or Inferno?

Better yet, should I farm it in hell difficulty or something else? Is there a boss like the Cow King in D2?

Drops you can get in any difficulty, as mentioned. The initial "Plans" to train the blacksmith drop of izual, boss before Diablo (If I remember correctly, you have to get them as a drop the first time)

Black Mushroom – Found in Level 1 of the Cathedral in Act I

Start a new game at Act I, Quest 3: A Shattered Crown.
Take the waypoint to the Cathedral Garden, then enter Leoric’s Passage.
Head up the stairs to Level 1 of the Cathedral and search every room until you find Black Mushrooms.


Leoric’s Shinbone – Found in Leoric’s Manor in Act I

Start a new game at Act I, Quest 9: The Imprisoned Angel – Part 2: The Cursed Hold.
Take the waypoint to Leoric’s Manor.
Enter Leoric’s Manor – go up the stairs, down the stairs, then enter the first room on the left and look for Burnt Logs in the fireplace at the far wall.
If there are no burnt logs, then exit and retry. If the burnt logs are there, then click on them and loot Leoric’s Shinbone.


Wirt’s Bell – Sold by a vendor in Act II
Little girl in the Bazaar

Liquid Rainbow – Found in the Mysterious Cave in Act II

Start a new game at Act II, Quest 6: Betrayer of the Horadrim – Part 2: The Forgotten Ruins
Take the waypoint to Path to the Oasis.
Head east – keeping to the south – and look for the first path that leads to a small hut where Zaven the Alchemist is being attacked by some Deathly Haunts. If Zaven is not there – exit out and retry.
If the event is happening…kill the phantoms and then Zaven will talk to you. He then opens an entrance to the Mysterious Cave.
Enter the Mysterious Cave and look for the Mysterious Chest. Open the chest and loot the Liquid Rainbow.

Gibbering Gemstone – Found in the Caverns of Frost in Act III

Start a new game at Act III, Quest 6: Siegebreaker.
Take the waypoint to Korsikk Bridge.
Head east into the Fields of Slaughter and look for the Caverns of Frost. If you see Icefall Caves, exit out and retry.
If the Caverns of Frost event is spawned, enter the cave, head down to level 2 and look for Chiltara. If Chiltara is not spawned, then exit out and retry.
If you get lucky and find Chiltara, then kill her and take her gemstone.

Plan: Staff of Herding – is a random drop off of Izual in Act IV
Start a new game at Act IV, Quest 4: Prime Evil.
Take the waypoint to the Crystal Colonnade.
Enter the Gateway to the Silver Spire and make your way to the Great Span.
Kill Izual and loot the plan. If he doesn’t drop it, then exit out and retry as needed.


Rt click the "Plans" at the blacksmith to train.. then do the combine (under weapons/staves). The initial staff is normal mode only, regardless of what diff you got the "parts" from. Once you have the staff created, you can purchase upgrade plans from the quartermaster (merchant near the mercenaries) in the keep (act 4) on each new difficulty.

The new plans, rt click train just like the first one, and the recipie is the last tier staff + Money. Because of this, you have to upgrade them in order,

Initial Combine - parts above + 50k = staff of herding
Nightmare = Normal Staff + 200k + plans from QM in Nightmare mode
Hell = Nightmare Staff + 500k + Plans from QM in Hell Mode
Inferno = Hell staff + 1m + Plans from QM in Inferno.
 

Riverhound777

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I might have to see about the Secret level. I'm getting bored with Act 1 inferno and can't afford better gear yet.
 

fstime

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45k DPS on a DH requires a 800+ DPS bow. that is not hell gear

purchasing nothing from the AH i finished hell with under 20k DPS WITH sharpshooter, and that was with the silly 430 DPS legendary bow i found

An 850 DPS bow costs peanuts in the AH, in fact, so much in fact that it is an instant salvage item when found.
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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An 850 DPS bow costs peanuts in the AH, in fact, so much in fact that it is an instant salvage item when found.

salvage? hmm...I have been selling my trash drops to the merchant. brings up the ongoing debate again...salvage or sell...
 

Imp

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So I was reading through Flipboard and apparently there are a couple of videos of some chinaman duping items already, LOL. Blizzard shut down the Asia servers just so they can roll out a hotfix. Sorry for not posting direct link to story, but I'm sure it'll pop up if you google.

Edit: here is direct link: http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Di...-Surface-Always-DRM-Proven-Useless-43428.html

"chinaman" - nice.


Heard about the secret level... Don't know how to get to it yet. Interesting. Got some googling to do.

As for Inferno and resists: damn. I love my ~+200 vitality equipment and 60k health. Hard to part with it to bump up my resists. On the otherhand, if my resists weren't so low, I wouldn't need so much health... I still don't have resists (any) on my Barb's shield, armor, and 1 ring. Only a few other items are +all resists, so long way to go for me.
 

darkewaffle

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I might have to see about the Secret level. I'm getting bored with Act 1 inferno and can't afford better gear yet.

Before you drop 2m on the staff I'd get a friend to open it first as a test run, in my case as a barb the enemies in there just hit me too hard still lol, even if they don't have any particularly special abilities. It would probably be a good place for a duo though and I'm sure ranged characters would probably have an easier time.

And yea, I've been salvaging every drop I've gotten for the last week or two now. Inferno grade materials are worth a fair bit in large quantities and I think with the right pattern and enough liquid cash you could even make some good stuff with the Hell mats, though the only one that comes to mind are the craftable Warlord Boots (item level 60) that get 5 properties and use hell mats and 15k. My friend and I have done about 15 each with nothing great yet, but I think it's quite possible.
 
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Anubis

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the only reason i have gold is because i found and sold 2 low lvl legendarys before people figured out they were worthless
 

EDUSAN

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yesterday i got to 1mill finally

50k is a lot for me... it would be an upgrade in any of my equipment
 

Yreka

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Before you drop 2m on the staff I'd get a friend to open it first as a test run, in my case as a barb the enemies in there just hit me too hard still lol, even if they don't have any particularly special abilities. It would probably be a good place for a duo though and I'm sure ranged characters would probably have an easier time.

I can zone anyone in that wants to check it out, just let me know..

Inferno is pretty tough for me to "break in", I have a hard time getting it started so I have enough room to kite.
 

bonkers325

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I can zone anyone in that wants to check it out, just let me know..

Inferno is pretty tough for me to "break in", I have a hard time getting it started so I have enough room to kite.

i would like to check it out before i drop the 2m on the staff!
 

TheKub

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I keep reading how people think that the RMAH is going to make AH prices rise and Im just not following that. Ok I get that there are gold farmers out there sitting on trillions of gold waiting for it to open and when it does all that gold will go into the game thus devaluating gold and AH prices go up.

I get that part but the part I don’t get is currently the cheapest I have seen the spammers selling 1mil has been $12 and lets say the RMAH makes the gold price crash 66% so its $4 1mill. Where I am at clawing my way through A2 Inferno solo when I am looking for equipment that is truly a decent upgrade and not a trivial bump up (Ex. no stats 1000DPS blue to a 1200DPS with primary, ias, crit) the current prices are like 10-40+ mil. So in a perfect world lets say auction prices stay the same despite a fall in gold value and I want to pick up a 10mill weapon. Currently I make a million every 4-6 hours unless the RNG feels really generous so I can grind 40 hours to pay for it or spend $40 for the gold. Now from a time efficiency stand point I can see the benefit as my time is worth more than $1/hr, but when I get down to it you got to be absolutely bat sh@#! crazy to spend $40 on one of 15 equipment slots for a fake world that you only spent $60 to obtain.

Perhaps I am failing to believe that people won’t think like me but I can’t imagine most people forking over more than a trivial amount (ex <$5) of real money for a good looking database entry. This is compounded on the fact that there are still loot patches/expansions coming so that really awesome perfect stat XXXXX that you bought for $20 is now down to twink\scrap gear because the new expansion came out and raised the level cap by 10. I really just don’t see me using the RMAH at all, my mind cant seem to jump the hurdle of $$$ for 101010011100100100100101. I hope AH prices don’t rise too much its already a bi#@! to grind enough money for upgrades.
 

IeraseU

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I keep reading how people think that the RMAH is going to make AH prices rise and Im just not following that. Ok I get that there are gold farmers out there sitting on trillions of gold waiting for it to open and when it does all that gold will go into the game thus devaluating gold and AH prices go up.

Basically the train of thought is that since there will be a lot more gold flooding into the economy, the cost of items must also go up. At the same time people are predicting the real world cost of gold to be about $1 for a million, or even $0.50 for a million.

What that would effectively do is make it extremely inefficient for a person to farm items themselves because their time will never be as efficiently spent as a 'farmer' with tons of accounts and gold bots. So basically we're going to have to pay for items with real currency since the cost is going to 'many millions' for a decent item, and farming for gold is going to be very, very slow.

That's why people are recommending off-loading gold before the RMAH goes live.
 

TheKub

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It would almost seem that for selling gold Blizzard should limit the amount of gold you can sell in a month say 10mil. That would seem to discourage farmers, prevent rapid inflation, and not completely end the game for non RMAH users.
 

PhatoseAlpha

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It's more then just the gold flood though. There's also the supply decrease of quality items on the GAH. Items that are actually useful can be listed on the RMAH for actual money, thus diverting the already limited supply away from the GAH. Even if there was no gold inflation at all, that would drive up prices by itself.

Combine the two - a huge influx of gold combined with a significant drop in supply of things worth buying - and prices will skyrocket.
 

Udgnim

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the possible interesting twist is if Blizzard does a ban wave before RMAH is released

it shouldn't be hard to filter for accounts that are on 24/7, have huge sums of gold, and repeatedly did an area

I'm still going to hold off on auctioning some items and waiting for RMAH to be released to get an idea of how much the value of gold changes and whether to try to RMAH very good items for a more stable currency source
 
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darkxshade

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RMAH going live is going to an fun spectacle to watch.


PSA: Do not play a HC character on that day unless you wanna risk lag death.
 

Riverhound777

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RMAH going live is going to an fun spectacle to watch.


PSA: Do not play a HC character on that day unless you wanna risk lag death.

I wonder if they took any notes from the Nasdaq fail on FB IPO day. i'm guessing it will crash within minutes and be down for a couple days.
 

JoPh

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so what you are saying is that once RMAH goes live I am never going to be able to afford a good weapon..

Lets hope the change is ?drop rates? will help me farm one..
 

watek

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I had some respect for unicorns but after playing inferno pony land I hate ponies unicorns whatever the crap it is. Same with cuddling bears and fast devouring flowers, ah!
 

Kalmah

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So, I'm assuming the RMAH is going to boil everything down to this:

If it's good, it will either sell for real $ or for VERY high gold amount.

For those who don't want to use the RMAH, if you happen to get your grubby hands on something good because of a good drop, you could become gold rich by selling it... but then in turn, after this occurs over and over again over time, gold is going to be everywhere, further increasing the costs for items on the GAH. Newcomers, who buy the game after it has been out a year are going to be SOL when it comes to equipment purchases then because of starting with no gold?(unless using real $)

I'm sure there are more pieces to this puzzle that I'm not seeing. You have gold farmers and bots involved as well.(which I'm guessing are either going to destroy it all or have to close up shop because they fucked up their own market with over-saturation somehow) It's going to come full circle several times with prices being mucked up.

And then the interests of players to even keep playing the game will come into play. If people stop playing in mass things will stop being bought. And you also have to consider that nothing in the game is actually consumable, it can all be recycled into the auction house. I have a feeling that this game will only play out for as long as Blizzard keeps putting out expansions; as long as they keep a step ahead of the mess we'll continuously have something new to grasp for.

I have no idea. lol.

 

Batmeat

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An 850 DPS bow costs peanuts in the AH, in fact, so much in fact that it is an instant salvage item when found.

850dps bow = peanuts? the current bow I have now stated dps is 276. I've never seen a bow above 350 when looking through the ah. What exactly are you reading or how are you coming up with 850? I've got about half a million to spend, Making gold is super easy so...
 
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