**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[BadgerYou]

i just did the latter.
Bought a lvl 60 bow with a - req and dominated the monsters.

Only two things you have to keep up to date while leveling, your weapon with + dmg and your Helm w/ a socket so you can put a + exp gem in there. then you ./prosper

 

[isekii]

Only two things you have to keep up to date while leveling, your weapon with + dmg and your Helm w/ a socket so you can put a + exp gem in there. then you ./prosper

so true.
lvling~ just get anything with stat that's decent and exp + and add that with a high dmg weap and you'll lvl and clear through mobs quick.

 

[SS Trooper]

My statement may have been a bit harsh. I have stated, and honestly believe, that Diablo 3 is a decent enough game. I bought it and played it. I got my money worth out of the experience. But it is through that experience that I felt the game could have been significantly better. it could have gone from merely good to awesome. Except for all of the little things that gently try and push you towards the auction house.

Maybe I just have no tolerance for crude and obvious plays to try and gouge the consumer base. And maybe I am being naive in believing that the game could have been made simply to extend the franchise and still have been massively profitable for Blizzard. But they had to go for the kill instead of merely the wound. It's the difference between charging a 10% mark up so that you can make a profit and charging a 50% markup plus a recurring fee, and unreasonable limitations because you know people will take it. One is good business. the other is being greedy.

Diablo 3 could have gone done in the annals of history as one of the best games (right beside Diablo 2) if they hadn't tried to slam the always online thing and so thoroughly invested in the Auction house. The basic game play concepts are solid. I may not like the 'You get every skill' thing, but it isn't as bad as how pervasive the Auction house methodology is ingrained.

And I do feel a (unreasonable) need to open the eyes of those who simply swallow the Kool aid. I need to work on that.

I see, the old could've - would've mentality. I agree 100% that blizzard did not deliver on D3 to their normal standard. I think the AH should be there, and I do not disagree with it's implentation.

I find flaws in the uniqueness of any given play session. Random events and encounters are a great concept, but I feel they have way to few of them in the game. Not even one per zone in my findings. I've played my Barb for over 100 hours and finally found one in Act1 that had yet to see, not because I didn't look for it, rather because I feel they were implemented poorly.

This is a popular arguement with gaming, but you could clearly see that Blizzard has held back content for the sake of an expansion. The fact there is no "horde" mode is just lazy imo. I'd want it, I dont even care if there's loot in it, just give me something else to do besides a pitiful 4 acts and a easter egg board that makes me cry inside.

Still, I like killing things for loot, and have not found a better game to do it in.

 

[EDUSAN]

the events suck so bad...

the loot is bad, and the gold reward is soooooooooo bad... 810 gold an event in which i had to killed at least 1 elite? normal mobs drop more gold than the whole event

i hope they fix that... maybe doing decreased gold everytime you do the same event per day (so as not to abuse them by farming them) but 800g is a joke

 

[isekii]

the events suck so bad...

the loot is bad, and the gold reward is soooooooooo bad... 810 gold an event in which i had to killed at least 1 elite? normal mobs drop more gold than the whole event

i hope they fix that... maybe doing decreased gold everytime you do the same event per day (so as not to abuse them by farming them) but 800g is a joke

Event usually drops you rare items too no ?

 

[Batmeat]

If you're that short on gold, why not just stay in Hell and farm gold there. I'm sure you will get nice rare drops from time to time that you can AH for more gold too. You'll die less, kill faster.

That's my plan. Going back to A3.

 

[thespyder]

I see, the old could've - would've mentality. I agree 100% that blizzard did not deliver on D3 to their normal standard. I think the AH should be there, and I do not disagree with it's implentation.

I don't disagree that the auction house should be there. I think it fills a need that existed in Diablo 2. I just hate the truly invasive thrust they put on it's implementation.

I find flaws in the uniqueness of any given play session. Random events and encounters are a great concept, but I feel they have way to few of them in the game. Not even one per zone in my findings. I've played my Barb for over 100 hours and finally found one in Act1 that had yet to see, not because I didn't look for it, rather because I feel they were implemented poorly.

This is a popular arguement with gaming, but you could clearly see that Blizzard has held back content for the sake of an expansion. The fact there is no "horde" mode is just lazy imo. I'd want it, I dont even care if there's loot in it, just give me something else to do besides a pitiful 4 acts and a easter egg board that makes me cry inside.

Still, I like killing things for loot, and have not found a better game to do it in.

I also enjoy killing things for loot. And while Diablo 3 delivers on a better graphics engine, I find the actual killing to be not as much fun and the loot to be less rewarding than Diablo 2. I am not going to insult by trying to quantify those feelings. But I will say that I stopped playing Diablo 3 after about 60 hours. And I went back and created a new Barbi for Diablo 2. I can feel the difference in rewards.

Diablo 3 is a good game.
Diablo 2 is a GREAT game.

that is all I have ever wanted to convey.

 

[EDUSAN]

Event usually drops you rare items too no ?

the events no... maybe the elite you kill for the event... but the reward normally is 800 gold... and maybe the guy transforms into a merchant that might be selling a over priced shitty rare item

but not much more than that

 

[StrangerGuy]

My statement may have been a bit harsh. I have stated, and honestly believe, that Diablo 3 is a decent enough game. I bought it and played it. I got my money worth out of the experience. But it is through that experience that I felt the game could have been significantly better. it could have gone from merely good to awesome. Except for all of the little things that gently try and push you towards the auction house.

Maybe I just have no tolerance for crude and obvious plays to try and gouge the consumer base. And maybe I am being naive in believing that the game could have been made simply to extend the franchise and still have been massively profitable for Blizzard. But they had to go for the kill instead of merely the wound. It's the difference between charging a 10% mark up so that you can make a profit and charging a 50% markup plus a recurring fee, and unreasonable limitations because you know people will take it. One is good business. the other is being greedy.

Diablo 3 could have gone done in the annals of history as one of the best games (right beside Diablo 2) if they hadn't tried to slam the always online thing and so thoroughly invested in the Auction house. The basic game play concepts are solid. I may not like the 'You get every skill' thing, but it isn't as bad as how pervasive the Auction house methodology is ingrained.

And I do feel a (unreasonable) need to open the eyes of those who simply swallow the Kool aid. I need to work on that.

Trust me there is no shortage of shills saying the usual "D2 also had real money trading by third parties!" without mentioning the obvious conflict of interest in D3 of making the game fun vs "encouraging" AH use by heavy-handed unfair game mechanics that cuts player skill involved to the bare minimum as possible. (Try ranged classes in Inferno with an Arcane/Vortex mob to see what I mean.) It's like a gaming Stockholm Syndrome or something.

 

[isekii]

the events no... maybe the elite you kill for the event... but the reward normally is 800 gold... and maybe the guy transforms into a merchant that might be selling a over priced shitty rare item

but not much more than that

most events I ran always had something that was poppable for items.

 

[darkxshade]

the events suck so bad...

the loot is bad, and the gold reward is soooooooooo bad... 810 gold an event in which i had to killed at least 1 elite? normal mobs drop more gold than the whole event

i hope they fix that... maybe doing decreased gold everytime you do the same event per day (so as not to abuse them by farming them) but 800g is a joke

I don't even go into cellars anymore... I'd waltz in, see some guy in distress, clear the mobs, they say thanks and drop me a blue that barely pay for repairs. Or better yet, they give me the priveledge of buying their dyes for saving them.

 

[KIAman]

I have 19% crit, 78% extra damage on crit.

I run Magic Weapon. (other skills are:
Venom Hydra,
Diamond skin + extra absorption,
energy armor + prismatic armor (increase resistances),
arcane orb (reduce to 20 AP cost),
teleport + Fracture)

So no familiar.

and my talents are: Galv. Ward, The increase AP one, and slow on arcane damage.

I run a 1 hand (937 damage, no stats blue weapon) and a shield (50 int, -8% damage from elites, -12% time slowed/snared, +7% crit chance)

And I do agree I want to lose some armor but I can't find an improvement that will allow me to, but resistances need to increase still to move on, as I am trying to gear up for act 2, not just farming act 1.

Your DPS is just too low. Inferno damage has been scaled down but not the health.

1. You need to run glass cannon instead of Ward (+15% dmg)
2. Get rid of the shield and get a source (75-300 dmg, 75+ int, 6%+ crit chance should cost you less than 1m).
3. Change energy armor rune to pinpoint barrier (nothing hits hard enough to 1 shot you anymore except the ones that take 2 seconds to wind up and you should be able to easily avoid those)
4. Get a 850+ dps 1 handed weapon with 50% crit hit damage or above (should cost less than 500k)

Once you do all that, you will be closer to 30k+ dps and roll through act 2.

 

[jbones70]

Players of higher level who found it and are selling it to lower level characters because the lower level characters can't find it at their level.

And the level 60 stuff from people who farm for dozens (and perhaps more) hours going over the same ground over and over and over AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER the same ground until they find that one single item to sell or use.

This is an assumption. Perhaps these super items NEVER drop in game; I suspect Blizzard puts up super items themselves in the RMAH for revenue. There is no visibility to the seller in AH or RMAH to say this isn't true. The gold AH never has the same super items for sale as the RMAH either. Hum...

 

[BadgerYou]

This is an assumption. Perhaps these super items NEVER drop in game; I suspect Blizzard puts up super items themselves in the RMAH for revenue. There is no visibility to the seller in AH or RMAH to say this isn't true. The gold AH never has the same super items for sale as the RMAH either. Hum...

My sarcasm meter is going off the charts. Cannot compute, limit does not exist.

 

[thespyder]

This is an assumption. Perhaps these super items NEVER drop in game; I suspect Blizzard puts up super items themselves in the RMAH for revenue. There is no visibility to the seller in AH or RMAH to say this isn't true. The gold AH never has the same super items for sale as the RMAH either. Hum...

I am not sure what you are assuming is an assumption. I was merely postulating where items could reasonably come from in the Auction House. I suppose it is possible that Blizzard might be intending to introduce 'Super' items into the RMAH. I had never considered that. Nor do I subscribe to that conspiracy theory. Although it does tickle my funny bone. They may be evil. But just not 'Dr Evil', evil... Or are they? LOL

 

[EDUSAN]

i see completely possible that maybe Blizzard could be manipulating the prices in the RMAH placing items themselves...

for instance... you get a 1,5k weapon... you are like "i will place this item at 50 bucks" , you check the RMHA and you see a 1,5k weapon for 250 bucks (placed by blizzard) so...what are you gonna do? place it at 230 maybe...

 

[darkewaffle]

Feeling "nudged" to use the AH is little more than psychological.

When you look at it, you're going to be able to find the best possible gear for your level because there are so many people playing that it's inevitably going to drop for someone (many people, even), but those drops are atypical because they're going to be part of one of the deviations far right on the loot bell curve; so while it may make you feel as though your gear is inadequate, that's only true in a relative sense and it's actually quite adequate for the content.

Just because better gear for your level exists is in no way proof that you need it or that you're being gipped by not finding it; if everyone found everything that was the best for them at every level, nobody would ever have any reason to buy/sell/trade anything or even to keep playing. While you may want it and it may not drop, that's perfectly normal, just like you may have wanted full Sigons or an Eye of Etlich or a Tarnhelm or a pair of Tearhaunch while levelling in D2 but never got them.

Once you hit inferno I think you can make a case for the AH becoming a necessity, but like I said before, I think that merely re-inforces the fact that Inferno is not for everyone. Much like Ubers and DClone weren't for everyone, they were an accessory challenge. And they probably would not be doable without either an absolutely exorbitant amount of time played or simply accepting that you'd need to do some wheeling and dealing.

 

[Magusigne]

i see completely possible that maybe Blizzard could be manipulating the prices in the RMAH placing items themselves...

for instance... you get a 1,5k weapon... you are like "i will place this item at 50 bucks" , you check the RMHA and you see a 1,5k weapon for 250 bucks (placed by blizzard) so...what are you gonna do? place it at 230 maybe...

I think if you insert the word Gold Farmer where blizzard was in your comments you'd be right.

But in all seriousness..Blizzard doesn't have to do this. We are all greedy son's of bitches. So if we think we can make more money from an item..were going to do it.

Blizzard is already making a killing without exposing themselves to potential fraud charges.

 

[Daverino]

How to make gold as a wizard:

1. Get to Act I in Inferno and choose the beginning of the quest Fallen Angel
2. Equip as much gold find gear as possible. Don't worry about gear stats
3. Spec out with:
Archon - Improved Archon
Energy Armor - Force Armor
Hydra - Venom Hydra
Familiar - Sparkflint
Magic Weapon - Force Weapon
Teleport - Wormhole
Glass Cannon
4. Take the Templar as your follower and put gold find on him too.
5. When you enter the game, go straight to the waypoint portal. Do not go near Leah at all
6. Take the portal to the Old Ruins and run West until you get to the Checkpoint outside Old Tristam.
7. Teleport four times West and you should be right at the basement where Sarkoth resides
8. If the basement is closed, TP and quit. Resume and you will be at the checkpoint again. Go back to step 7.
9. If the basement is open, head on in.
10. Run to, but not through the door where the Quill Fiends are. Drop your hydra on Sarkoth. Pop Archon and disintegrate him. The splash should kill his minions immediately.
11. Grab loot. TP to town. Resume and restart at step 7.

If you go near Leah, a checkpoint will trigger and you won't spawn right near the basement. So if you need to go to the Blacksmith, make sure you run below the portal before going over. Use the merchant to the west to sell trash. You can access your stash, but make sure you're directly underneath it.

If you're fully dedicated to it, you can run him around 60-80 times an hour. He appears roughly half the time, but don't get discouraged if there are streaks of 5 or 6 times he isn't there. The base gold is around 2,500 per run. So with 200% gold find, expect 7,500 gold or so. You will always get at least one blue, usually more. They are almost always vendor food, but Level 60 items can be salvaged at the Blacksmith and the materials auctioned off for about 2,500 gold per. You usually get 1-2 gems as well.

Buckle down and do this for a few hours and you'll have a few million gold in you pocket.

Oh, and if it wasn't obvious, anything will one-shot you without gear on, so run Force Armor when teleporting to the basement. You may sometimes find yourself on top of a zombie of find one standing in front of the basement door. Just ignore it and run past, taking the hit. Every once in a while you'll get unlucky and land in a pack and get ganked, but what's life without risks? If there's a pack in front of the door and you cannot run through. Just dump the hydra and then archon to blow them away. Archon will last plenty long to float in and blast Sarkoth. It will just take a little longer because you won't have the hydra too.

 

[EDUSAN]

dude... im too lazy to do that...

 

[Aikouka]

everytime i had a trouble like that, feeling i was not doing enough damage, searched for weapons in the AH and that fixed it

Surprisingly, I did recently find an upgrade, but that may also be part of my problem. I gained a modest amount of damage, but I also lost 2% lifestealing (4% to 2%).

I also recently found a shield that I can't even use yet. Finding gear above my level... that never happened in Diablo III!

Although, I was trying to avoid just going to the AH. In some ways, it ruins the fun for me, but I'm really just trying to get to the end faster at this point.

As I recall, the single biggest increase to my survivability in nightmare came from getting a weapon with a socket, buying a perfect square ruby on the AH, and using that. At that point the bonus from the gem is huge, and because late hell/inferno drop those suckers all the time, they're dirt cheap.

Ahh, that might be a good idea. The new weapon I found does have a slot, and I put my own ruby into it, but I doubt it's as powerful as the one you mentioned.

Stack Dex/Vit and buy a high level weapon with a reduced level requirement

Hmm that's a good point on the reduced level requirement... I might have to look for one of those.

 

[Jeffg010]

This is an assumption. Perhaps these super items NEVER drop in game; I suspect Blizzard puts up super items themselves in the RMAH for revenue. There is no visibility to the seller in AH or RMAH to say this isn't true. The gold AH never has the same super items for sale as the RMAH either. Hum...

:awe:

 

[BadgerYou]

If I did that, I would burn myself out in 3 hours and quit the game... maybe I should do it.

 

[GWestphal]

what happens when in 2-3 year Blizzard shuts down the servers? Will they release an offline patch? Because I can play D1 and D2 now, nearly 20 years later.

 

[EDUSAN]

what happens when in 2-3 year Blizzard shuts down the servers? Will they release an offline patch? Because I can play D1 and D2 now, nearly 20 years later.

why would they shut down the servers? the d2 server are still up... battle.net is still up and that is holding everything