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stag3

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2 legendary drops since patch, played for maybe 3 hours. Too bad they're crap legendaries but so far so good!

I need some upgrade advice... can't seem to break 45k DPS.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LimeYogurt-1615/hero/11962324

No idea what pieces to upgrade next. I've been stacking MF in hopes of finding good items to sell, been making small chump change here and there. Also need some pick up range...

you need way more intel, it would also help if your MH had intel on it.
i was at that point with my barb had to start hunting for chest's with 3 sockets, and pants with 2 sockets, amy + rings with sockets, in order to increase my DPS.

easy way to increase is magic weapon - force weapon
and familiar - sparkflint.

i'm using the ray of frost build now and have no arcane power issues. i only have 1 socket in my chest and pants so have tons of room for dps improvement. i'm at ~56k dps using a 2h
 
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isekii

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Just bought some (9) radiant emeralds for under 8 mil each.
It costs almost double this to craft. If you need some you should pick some up NOW!
 

PowerYoga

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you need way more intel, it would also help if your MH had intel on it.
i was at that point with my barb had to start hunting for chest's with 3 sockets, and pants with 2 sockets, amy + rings with sockets, in order to increase my DPS.

easy way to increase is magic weapon - force weapon
and familiar - sparkflint.

i'm using the ray of frost build now and have no arcane power issues. i only have 1 socket in my chest and pants so have tons of room for dps improvement. i'm at ~56k dps using a 2h

Yup, I was running CM with a friend yesterday but when I run solo I use both force weapon and spark flint.

I know I need more int, but don't have much money for upgrades.... rocking about 15 mil give or take.

I'm trying to get 2 major things right now:

1) more runspeed (looking into a tyreal's BP)
2) Gold pick up range

Further down the list is a MH with int on it, and I'm always on the lookout for stuff that has more int than what I have. It's always a problem buying MH upgrades because I don't know how much DPS I can "lose" while getting int and a socket with a crit gem in it. But Archon doesn't really need +crit... the beam doesn't crit does it?
 

waterjug

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You were probably WWing to much previously. You only really needed to WW to get through something that was blocking you. You wanted the twisters from RLTW to do the damage not WW.




Act 3 was between MP2-3

Act1 and 2 mobs went from lvl 61 and 62 to a flat 63 so there is a big difference there

Ah ok, see I never used many of the twisters, well I did, but I ran out of fury really easily.
 

darkxshade

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Searching through the fields of misery and dalgur oasis for the wardens is such a pain.

I did get about 8 legendarys today so far though, one of which was a IK chest which I sold immediately for 30 bucks.
 
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isekii

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Searching through the fields of misery and dalgur oasis for the wardens is such a pain.

I did get about 8 legendarys today so far though, one of which was a IK chest which I sold immediately for 30 bucks.

what MP are you running ?
 

darkxshade

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what MP are you running ?


1, there's no point imo to go higher than MP1 for farming purposes.. I don't think MF affects legendary drop rates that much if at all. And I don't even bother picking up rares anymore considering the market is about to get saturated with them.

So I pretty much do the alkaizer run only turning back to loot any legendaries that ping off the minimap. Although I do take a quick detour to stonefort for the keywardens.
 

waterjug

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wait.....how does MF on mercs work?? Have I been a retard this whole time? I don't have any MF on mine...
 

stag3

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Yup, I was running CM with a friend yesterday but when I run solo I use both force weapon and spark flint.

I know I need more int, but don't have much money for upgrades.... rocking about 15 mil give or take.

I'm trying to get 2 major things right now:

1) more runspeed (looking into a tyreal's BP)
2) Gold pick up range

Further down the list is a MH with int on it, and I'm always on the lookout for stuff that has more int than what I have. It's always a problem buying MH upgrades because I don't know how much DPS I can "lose" while getting int and a socket with a crit gem in it. But Archon doesn't really need +crit... the beam doesn't crit does it?

i'm not sure on that, i have nowhere near the gold to build an archon wiz which sucks because that was the first class i leveled to 60 and i enjoy playing it.

i'll check my stash see if i have a high intel weapon with socket i can give you or let you borrow. all my time/$ is spent upgrading my barb right now
 

digiram

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1, there's no point imo to go higher than MP1 for farming purposes.. I don't think MF affects legendary drop rates that much if at all. And I don't even bother picking up rares anymore considering the market is about to get saturated with them.

So I pretty much do the alkaizer run only turning back to loot any legendaries that ping off the minimap. Although I do take a quick detour to stonefort for the keywardens.

So, mp1 act 3?
 

PowerYoga

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i'm not sure on that, i have nowhere near the gold to build an archon wiz which sucks because that was the first class i leveled to 60 and i enjoy playing it.

i'll check my stash see if i have a high intel weapon with socket i can give you or let you borrow. all my time/$ is spent upgrading my barb right now

it's ok, I just wanted to know the general direction that I should go with the character. Getting upgrades yourself is half the fun!

With the improved drop rates I don't feel like I'm bashing my head against the wall, sooner or later something will drop and I'll be able to sell it and upgrade my gear betterly.
 
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I thought it was 20% of what they had equipped.

Pretty sure it's 33% or around there.

I gave my templar a 40%MF ammy and it said I received 13% bonus to my own stats.

40% * .33 = about 13%

Edit: You know what, I think I'm wrong. I forgot my templar has additional MF gear and that the 13% I got was probably 20% of all MF gear he had on.
 

Judgement

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Anyone fight any uber bosses yet? I spent about 2 hours farming keys last night at MP4. I could do so at an OK pace, but I'm really hoping to do at least MP6 when going for the organs. I was able to kill stuff plenty fast, but I died to some of the tough packs more often than I would have liked. Ended up swapping out fleet footed with resolve, which I haven't used in ages. Really seems like this lost armor hurt my monk.

Is it reasonable to assume this would be the case, or are they more difficult, so I would need to possibly even go down in MP?

My monk - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dauntless-1820/hero/1489209

http://d3up.com/b/50838

I think I lost over 60k EHP, but I didn't pay very close attention to that number before the nerfs.
 
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waterjug

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shit...time to MF up my enchantress.


Also, using that as code for trying to coax a beej out of the gf from now on.
 

pandemonium

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I'm loving the MP system, despite what some may think.

MP2-3 is easy farming for my monk with only 45k active dps (I use several builds, but typically around 30k unbuffed).

I did a few runs with a buddy at MP4 and it was just a little tough on some elites. Decent challenge.

I tried MP10 and wow, that was crazy. I regeared/specced for as much survivability as possible (1800 LoH, 6% LS, 4500 armor, 750RA, 40k hits, ~130 LPSS, at around 25k DPS >.>) and went around killing stuff near the Festering Woods CP in A1. Regular monsters were like elite fights, and the elite fight I actually ground down just to endure a challenge, the named in it had 18 million health (not extra life). Lololol.

I really do love how all of the acts are equal across the board now and the MP settings is what determines your difficulty. Good stuff.

I noticed immediately how much better the stat rolls were while running MP3. I think I had around 250MF with 5NV? I have yet to spreadsheet out the exp/gold ratios per MP level, but will probably get to that soon.

Managed to get a Bul-Kathos with pretty decent stats and 1150DPS on it within 2 hours of farming A1. I didn't even realize it until I went to ID and it was taking forever. I was like, wtf....OH! Sweet!
 
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waterjug

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yeah, not going to lie I actually am getting a little bit of enjoyment out of the game now. I like the mood/motif/ambiance of A1, it feels like a 'real' diablo game to me, and with MP I can now farm it like it was A2/A3 for others while building up my barb
 

pandemonium

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I always preferred A1 over the others for the ambiance. A3 is simply the best for density, but I'm so tired of running it now.
 

pandemonium

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Oh, maybe it was just me, but while I was playing I was constantly checking the AH prices on pieces I want (as usual) for deals and I noticed in a 4 hour time span prices were dropping much lower than normal. I'm glad to see the market is changing.

I had to really, really hold myself back from jumping on a few things that were deals by comparison to what I'm used to seeing (not exclusive steals). That was difficult, lol. Patience will pay off in the end - I'm certain.
 

Chiropteran

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This transpired on the forums when people complained about drops originally:

Complaint, Complaint, Complaint
People start saying the AH is controlling the drops of the good gear (limiting what you can roll for items)

Bashiok (Blizzard Rep) comes on the forums and actually says the AH does influence droprates or the economy would crash. (No I will not link this, google it)

Then he backtracks or some other Blue did shortly after that.

Now his comments are brought up in every complaint thread about drops.

On one hand you really hope rng is rng. On the other hand you have a Blizzard rep state this publicly then got his wrist slapped to retract it.
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He never said that, although his words were misrepresented by many and used as "evidence" of that.

Blizzard clarifies it nicely:
"The auction house has absolutely no effect on drop rates. There are conspiracy theories and misunderstandings, but I do want to re-iterate: there is NO interaction whatsoever. Bashiok mentioned earlier that we took the AH into account, so let me expand a little bit on that.

The drop rates were tuned for a player who would never use the Auction House. For the majority of internal development, we didn't have an Auction House, and we all played using our own drops only. I've personally leveled multiple characters from 1 to 60 internally before the game came out using only drops that I found -- we all did."


Bashiok's original statement:
"The auction house obviously provides an incredible service to allow for very easy trades between characters, and essentially blows out the wide range of items you could have available to you at any one time. So, in fact, the AH has to be a factor in how we drop items. On one hand you have a huge benefit because you can buy and sell items very easily, as opposed to having to post up WTS threads in the old USEast trading forums, but on the other end it does impact the item pool economy with the inherent ease at which you can trade items. If the AH existed but wasn't a factor at all into how items dropped/rolled, the economy would be completely tanked within a matter of weeks."

Clear as day he is talking about the design of the game. The rarity of legendary items, for example, was set to be rare enough that they would hold some value even with the existence of an auction house. Players who interpreted his words to mean blizzard actively manipulates drop rates in some ongoing way were reading words into it that he never wrote.

Furthermore, many players have logged item drops extensively to determine just how the drop rates and magic find work together, any direct manipulation by blizzard would have been detected long ago.

And finally, the idea that blizzard would spend money hiring people to observe and control rare items and disable or enable drops to keep the auction house values high is completely laughable to me, they have better things to do with their money.

Silly conspiracy theory is just a silly conspiracy theory.
 
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