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masterxfob

Diamond Member
May 20, 2001
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Well, my barb is level 42 now.

Man, for a good laugh open the auction house, search for weapons, max level 41, and then 42. DPS increases 1000% between those two levels.
i think the minus level requirement is maxed at 18 levels. and the difference between level 59 and level 60 weps is huge. broken game is broken.
 

CalebRockeT

Golden Member
Jul 14, 2003
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y u so greedy, just sold for 46 million. oh well. i wanted to trade for wiz gear and avoid that nasty 15%
:shrug: I would have offered you 500k. <3 lowballing in video games

i think the minus level requirement is maxed at 18 levels. and the difference between level 59 and level 60 weps is huge. broken game is broken.
That's when the game gets fun. Facerolling is fun. Fighting an elite mob for 3 minutes is not fun.
 

Adrenaline

Diamond Member
Jun 12, 2005
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I found a BT Surcoat last night and then Jousting Mail.

I have no idea what is up with my drops but I am having fun.
 

CU

Platinum Member
Aug 14, 2000
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Pretty sure the + elemental percentage shows up in the paperdoll. When I put on a black weapon my dps shot up sky high.

Also here's the problem: wizard farms slow and you have to spend about 5x as much money to farm the equivalent of a barb would. It took me about 45 minutes to do my routine act 3 run in wizard, and I thought that was pretty fast... until I did the same thing with my barb in less than 20. Then I expanded my run and ended up killing about 2x as many elites and mobs in the same amount of time my wiz would. I'm leveling tons faster!!

Wizard's expensive too. Looking at upgrades for wizard always ran in the 100m mark, or 50m for sidegrades. That is depressing! And your equipment isn't really cross-spec compatible. Try doing CM with Life steal and under 100k and you'll know what I'm talking about.

And tried ray of frost build. It's pretty crappy... shielding mobs absolutely eat you and the single target dps isn't really high enough to keep stuff away. black ice is nice though, and does a lot of dps if mobs are dumb enough to walk into it.

I though I read the + elemental percentage doesn't get added to the paper doll dps. Guess I need to test this out.

Not arguing that barbs aren't faster to level, just saying I like playing my wizard. What do you mean by my equipment isn't really cross-spec compatible? I didn't list all my equipment. I could never do CM because I never had enough critical hit chance. I just know I could tank before and even better after 1.05, and the CM build got nerfed.

Wouldn't shielding mobs eat most dps'ers. They are shielded and cannot take any damage, so you have to wait until they drop their shields. My damage seems OK. I am killing enemies before they get to me in MP3 with 29K dps on my paperdoll. And I have seen my thunderstorm one shot enemies when they are in my slowtime bubble. I haven't tried black ice yet. I am using the reduced cost rune. I plan to try it though for the extra damage. As for the mobs being dumb, this is Diablo they all head straight to you, so yeah they are dumb enough to walk through it.

I do have one question for slowing skills though. Do they stack? If a mob is in slowtime and I hit them with ray of frost does it slow them more. I haven't really noticed it much. I may need to try the rune that increase the slow effect of ray of frost to make it noticeable. If it does stack how? Does it matter what slow hits them first?
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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Not arguing that barbs aren't faster to level, just saying I like playing my wizard. What do you mean by my equipment isn't really cross-spec compatible? I didn't list all my equipment. I could never do CM because I never had enough critical hit chance. I just know I could tank before and even better after 1.05, and the CM build got nerfed.

CM generally uses life on hit, and archon generally uses life leech. The 2 sets of gear have very different pricing and a weapon that has both plus socket + crit damage + int will be in the hundreds of million range. Any intermediary builds (meteor) will probably benefit from LOH

Wouldn't shielding mobs eat most dps'ers. They are shielded and cannot take any damage, so you have to wait until they drop their shields.

Most skills have AOE or some sort of pass through. Ray of frost is the exception since it's a channeled spell that STOPS on the first thing it hits, so shielding is especially bad especially in a tight confined space like Keeps.

I do have one question for slowing skills though. Do they stack? If a mob is in slowtime and I hit them with ray of frost does it slow them more. I haven't really noticed it much. I may need to try the rune that increase the slow effect of ray of frost to make it noticeable. If it does stack how? Does it matter what slow hits them first?

I don't believe it does, just uses whatever slows the most. Otherwise slow time + blizzard + ray of frost + that arcane slowing skil with arcane hydra would make mobs immobile 100% of the time.
 

akahoovy

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May 1, 2011
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They doubled the drop rates of legendaries with the last patch, making them drop anymore would be pretty ridiculous. If you don't have near max MF you're not trying hard enough - Get 500% MF on MP5. I find all my legendaries in streaks pretty much still, i'll go a day or two without finding any then find 3 in an hour or something crazy.

Ugh, the thought of grinding more gold just to change my equipment over to have MF on it makes me dislike the game even more. I played a lot before 1.0.5, took a break and came back because it seemed like MP might solve the problem of not getting good drops but it hasn't really.

I put in 4-5 hours every day for the past two weeks and was able to buy much better gear than I was able to afford in a long time because there's a glut of low quality legendary and higher quality rares than before, but I have had very few drops that would actually sell. I put up the most useful rares for 30k and most of the time they're sold near that. With what I've bought my paper DPS has gotten to 83k with buffs and have been using Archon to clear act 3 continuously.

Trying to buy gear with MF that would keep me at or near that DPS would be way too expensive, and I'm not interested in sinking more time into a shot at having more legendary items drop. It's still random luck.
 

PowerYoga

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Nov 6, 2001
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That's... kind of the point? Increase drop rate = glut of items on the market.

And shouldn't you have MF anyway? That's pretty much the biggest upgrade you can purchase because the game is about farming efficiency, and farming with 0 MF is just... well... lets say its not the smartest decision.

Just a note: I got 4 legendaries and a BT chest drop in the past 2 days and a ton of random rares that should be good sells. I'm VERY happy with the drop rate increase.
 

ahdaniels76

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I played 2-3 hours last night doing some extended key runs (i.e. some farming with 5 stacks as well) and got 3 unique/set drops after a lot of nothing... a weak IK Belt (1-2 M), a decent Inna's chest(currently over 25M in GAH), and a poorly rolled unique (short name with a U or something) lvl 62 ring (2-4M). Loving the fact that I am getting some interesting drops, even if I can't use them.
 

Imp

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It's funny that now with more unique drops, you realize how many of the unique/set roles are total shit. You beat the odds and got it to drop, but you failed the other odds at getting reasonably good stats.

Tired of my freaking 800dps level 63 uniques...
 

PowerYoga

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Nov 6, 2001
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It's funny that now with more unique drops, you realize how many of the unique/set roles are total shit. You beat the odds and got it to drop, but you failed the other odds at getting reasonably good stats.

Tired of my freaking 800dps level 63 uniques...

at least they're not 600dps lvl 63 uniques like mine... :awe:
 

akahoovy

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May 1, 2011
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That's... kind of the point? Increase drop rate = glut of items on the market.

And shouldn't you have MF anyway? That's pretty much the biggest upgrade you can purchase because the game is about farming efficiency, and farming with 0 MF is just... well... lets say its not the smartest decision.

Just a note: I got 4 legendaries and a BT chest drop in the past 2 days and a ton of random rares that should be good sells. I'm VERY happy with the drop rate increase.

Just tired of the game I guess. Farming is boring.
 
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Just tired of the game I guess. Farming is boring.

Well, since D3 is primarily a farming game, then this game probably isn't for you.

I guess you could wait to see if PVP will be your cup of tea (whenever they end up releasing it).

I started leveling a barb b/c my only 60, a wizard, got super boring, even before the nerfs in 1.05. The game feels a bit more refreshing now that I'm playing a new class. Granted, I'm not too keen on having to level up to 60 again, but I'm hoping once I get there, the farming will be so much better.
 

digiram

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Apr 17, 2004
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Well, since D3 is primarily a farming game, then this game probably isn't for you.

I guess you could wait to see if PVP will be your cup of tea (whenever they end up releasing it).

I started leveling a barb b/c my only 60, a wizard, got super boring, even before the nerfs in 1.05. The game feels a bit more refreshing now that I'm playing a new class. Granted, I'm not too keen on having to level up to 60 again, but I'm hoping once I get there, the farming will be so much better.

This is why I have a 60 WD, Wiz, Barb, and DH. I switch em around to keep things fresh and intesting. Been really loving the Barb currently.
 

Molondo

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Sep 6, 2005
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I'm farming a3/4 on mp2 as rend barb. Took it down to mp1 and I'm moving almost twice as fast. I'm getting tired of picking up all the yellows, but considering I'm poorly geared and just poor I feel forced to be doing it.
 

akahoovy

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May 1, 2011
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Then the game's not for you. Plenty of other good games out there that doesn't emphasize farming like xcom, darksiders 2, dishonored.

Heh, I've been fighting it I think. I really liked D2, went back to it plenty of times, especially after 1.10. The skill synergies got me to try a lot of different builds, even the ones that were based off of having skills or auras provided by rune words that were sooo expensive.

Yea, I just feel like I'm being punished for time because I went after the wrong gear. So I'll leave D3 at that.
 

PowerYoga

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Nov 6, 2001
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Don't really see the difference... In D2 you also had to get magic find for farming or you'd be wasting a lot of time, like literally weeks or months to find one good rune.

Farming in this game's actually easier since a 5 stack NV means you're guaranteed a rare and paragon levels actually increase your MF, so farming over time will make it easier. I never understood the comparison people make about D2 farming being "better" or "easier": it's not.

And you have skill synergies if you're not playing a wizard. :awe:
 

akahoovy

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May 1, 2011
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Don't really see the difference... In D2 you also had to get magic find for farming or you'd be wasting a lot of time, like literally weeks or months to find one good rune.

That is the difference though. There was a lot of cheap gear that provided lots of MF but the Sorceress wasn't dependent on tons of stacked Int, Crit Chance, Crit Damage to increase DPS because the damage was based on her skill levels.

BTW, runes aren't affected by MF.
 

fustercluck

Diamond Member
Dec 29, 2002
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MP10 ubers is the most fun I have had since launch.

Good lord that must take all day. How much HP do ubers have on MP10? 100 majillion? I wanna run them with you though I can't get that damn fang organ on MP5 and I need two of them. PM me your battletag! Not sure if I could take Ghom's endless ass gas spam on MP10 though.
 

smackababy

Lifer
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Ended up making about 70mil on an amulet drop last night and spent almost all of it on upgrades. I swear people have to be botting some how on the AH because I've put in bids with like 10 seconds left (from my calculations watching closely) and will be winning up until the very second before it expires. Like I will be outbid and then it expires. This happens every time. I even overbid and they still beat me, which is sad. Oh well, I am up to 77k dps and am thinking about saving for a Witching Hour. If I can find a good one with dex / vit / all resist I will be unstoppable. Either that or a new helm with FoT damage inc. I might look for Nat's Sight and Nat's Ring for the sweet set bonus.

I might actually try out ubers tonight. I been farming keys and such trying to get my gear up. I have no problems in MP5 now doing key warden runs.

Any other suggestions on what to upgrade next? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ewok-1399/hero/6003556
 
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